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all CD titles and hardware catalogs. Thanks.
Max Green
399 Westmeade Dr.
Gretna, La. 70056.
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From: PATRICK SHEN Number: 5947
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 12:42p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have following CD-ROMs for sale. All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.
7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set). Smooth full motion video. Best CD
ever made. -------------- $42.00
Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack. Includes ChessMaster 3000 MPC, Mavis
Beacon Teaches Typing MPC, U.S. Atlas MPC and World Atlas MPC. Each has
own complete documents. -------------- $55.00
Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II. 10 games on one CD. Each has its own
documents. -------------------- $25.00
LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. Very good World War II Air
Combat Simulation game. I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free
bonus. ------------------- $25.00
Wing Commander/Ultima VI. Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure. With all manuals and Registration card.
------------------ $27.00
Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC. Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game. Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
--------------------- $20.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles. The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time. ------------------ $15.00
American Business Phone Book 92 Edition. -------------- $20.00
SelectWare System. The Ultimate Software Demo System. ------ $9.00
Amateur Models Adult CD. ------------------ $35.00
Hot Pix Volume 4 Adult CD. ---------------- $20.00
Storm III Adult CD. --------------- $20.00
If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.
Patrick Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 Internet: pshen#simenv.com or
72072.3612@compuserve.com
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From: JERRY CORNELIUS Number: 5948
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 11:41p
Subj: Dishonest suggestions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dave Reed (at 1:344/79) made the following insinuation without support:
DR>crooks in this industry (I shouldn't mention names like
DR>"GroupWare," but you get my drift).
I have ordered from GroupWare and had no trouble at all.
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From: SAMUEL MOORE Number: 5949
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 6:59p
Subj: NEW BBS Colorado Springs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There is a New BBS in town
Future Concepts 527-9587
We have just purchased a new Pioneer CD ROM JukeBox and are running
a total of 7 CD Roms. We are Running Major BBS 6.2 with Major CD
We will have the Following CD's Online by 15 Oct 93.
1. Night Owl 10 released 1 Oct 93
2. Night Owl Gifs released 1 Oct 93
3. Night Owl Games released 93
4. Night Owl 9 released 93
5. Windows 93 7000 windows files
6. FAO Gold Adult
7. Busty Babes
We also will have online Games, Teleconference with Global commands
Forum Area a growing Hard Drive file Area. also I have used Shareware
CD Roms for sale cheap call today (527-9587)
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 5950
To: MARC LIMMANY Date: 10/11/93 6:08a
Subj: My order Refer: 9363
Read: NO Private: No
-> Mike...
-> I was wondering if you received my order. I think I sent if off on
-> 10/2/93. It's been a while, and I was wondering where the cds where.
->
-> Thanks.
->
-> Marc Limmany
-> The Tech Source
-> 1:301/29
Marc, please don't post "one on one" messages like this.
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 5951
To: FRANK GRESH Date: 10/11/93 6:14a
Subj: Thanks Refer: 9389
Read: NO Private: No
-> Mike, just got the order today for those two disks that I asked for,
-> thanks, they are great, and once again, superb service, didn't even h
-> to pick up the phone !!!!!! Did you get my message about the Street
-> Atlas 2 ???? Thanks again for the quick service.
Foul!
Please don't post "one on one" type messages...
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 5952
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/11/93 6:16a
Subj: audio cd's Refer: 9393
Read: NO Private: No
-> Is it okay to advertise audio cd's here? I haven't seen the rules as
No. There's already an echo for that purpose... It's called CD_ECHO.
tim
moderator
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From: JANET GREENLEE Number: 5953
To: MARK CLARDY Date: 10/08/93 7:54p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send one of your catalogs. Thanks in advance
The Apothecary BBS
P.O. Box 484
Rochester Il. 62563
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 5954
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/27/93 1:15p
Subj: Review of stareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>OK, tell you what I'll try to do. I can (with some effort) OCR them
BJ>back into electronic form.
To save you even this amount of trouble, Bob, I already have the majority of
them, collected into one ZIP file, not quite 60K long. If you want, I can drop
it to you in the snailmail on a 360K disk. I'll find you in the callbook. 73,
de K8YUW
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 5955
To: JOHN ROMERO Date: 09/29/93 11:21a
Subj: What happen to my order? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You recently complained to Vince Sorensen:
JR> I ordered three cd's from your company 3 Weeks ago and still
JR>haven't recieved them.
I've ordered from Vince on more than one occasion. All orders were handled
promptly, with one exception. That one took just over three weeks from the
postmark, I can only guess it was lost somewhere in shipping, or the Customs
folks were playing with it. It was still shrink-wrapped when it got here, so
they didn't open it nroute.
JR> I also have been trying to reach someone for some
JR>answers by Fax and through this conference but have not yet had any
JR>replies. All I would like is to have this problem handled in a
JR>profressional manner.
Vince will have to address this point for himself. I myself usually call him
direct on his voice line, or via his BBS. It wouldn't do either of us any good
to act up in the public eye, were that necessary.
JR> Now by the time I recieve them they will be out dated.
In only three or four weeks? I find THAT hard to believe. If true, they were
already out of date before they were pressed, I would suspect. Gee, just
think! The way they are made to last, they'll be out of date for several
centuries!
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
* DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Murphy is out there somewhere ... just waiting ...
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 5956
To: DANIEL HAGAN Date: 10/02/93 5:37a
Subj: Industry changes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <29 Sep 93 19:52:01>, Daniel Hagan (1:381/61) writes:
>I'm not into publishing, but have read most of the stuff you have typed
>in here. I doubt XXX stuff will ever be "out of circulation" or
>underground as your previous message indicated. Publishers ought to be
>hammering their amendment rights...
Pretty sad that the do-gooders seem to have everybody in the CD-ROM industry
running scared right now, I don't get any less advertising for XXX rated
Video tapes than I ever did. Why is it that the CD-ROM publishers are
shutting down and the people producing movies aren't? To be quite honest I
get a bigger thrill looking at a beautiful naked woman by herself (R or X)
than I do with couples or threesomes or some of the kinkier stuff that was on
some of the XXX CD's, but I don't like being told I can't get them (XXX) if I
want them. Nobody has the right to tell me what I can and can't look at/own.
Oh well back off my soapbox, I am just real tired of seeing what direction
this country is headed, everybody thinks they should be able to tell the
other guy what is "right" for them. What ever happened to live and let live?
>A more accurate statement might be that everyone is about to get burned
>for scanning copyrighted movies and mags and will drop to the wayside for
>those activities. Or that dealers aren't going to want to have to have
>proof of their customers age on all transactions performed electronically
>or by voice.
I hope that is all that is going to happen, but I am not convinced yet..They
should be controlled, people should not get rich for stealing someone elses
work, and minors shouldn't be able to purchase this kind of material.
>
>--- GEcho 1.00
> * Origin: Health Professions El Paso, TX ZyXEL (915) 590-9798
>(1:381/61)
>
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From: JERRY MURPHY Number: 5957
To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Date: 10/02/93 10:58a
Subj: Adult cd price list Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a recent back-stabbing attack you directed at Ms Lee Noga, you said, among
other things:
JD>I have no doubt that you feel you are selling a quality product.
She has every right to feel that way.
JD> What concerns me is
JD>that you are not willing to stand behind your product.
By saying this you display your complete ignorance of her excellant
reputation, both here and in the business. She is too much of a lady to tell
you what you needed to hear though, and that's why I'm butting in where I
wasn't invited.
[much sophistry deleted]
JD> what I'm not sure is your taste and mine are the same.
I don't see how that could possibly be the case. I know she'd be delighted to
have you buy any/all of her products. I don't believe you'd be delighted to
"buy" them, and accord them the appreciation they deserve for the collections
they are.
I think most folks who know and respect her would agree with my tag line,
specifically made just for you.
the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio
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From: JOE RINEHART Number: 5958
To: ALL Date: 10/05/93 2:35p
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We have a total of 766 titles available from our distributer. These
are a few that we've made available at budget prices to introduce ourselves.
CD-ROM DISC'S NEW:
Category Key:
a = Adult mi = Misc.
h = Hardware mu = Music
bu = Business pr = Programming
cl = Clip Art re = Resource
ed = Educational sh = Shareware
en = Entertainment tr = Travel
li = Library ut = Utilities
Disclaimer: We take every precaution NOT to sell adult rom disc's to anyone
under the age of twenty one! For those that are above 21 we apologize, for
any inconvenience. No C.O.D.'s on any adult title. Please allow up to 2
weeks for delivery.
1001 Utilities sh 19.00
101 Sex Positions #1 a 39.00
101 Sex Positions #2 a 39.00
5.25" Disk Drive Cleaning Kits h 7.00
Adult Palette a 32.00
After Dark Trilogy a 39.00
Amateur Model a 32.00
America's Premier Shareware sh 19.00
American Business Phone Book bu 19.00
American Girls (200 soft nudes) a 33.00
Animation Festival a 32.00
Audio Cable Toshiba h 8.50
Bibles and Religion re 9.98
Business Assistant bu 19.00
Busting Out/vivid Digital a 38.00
Busty Babes Volume 2 - Brand new! a 33.00
CD Caddies mi 5.00
CD Jewel Cases mi 1.50
CD ROM Multi-Media Magazine re 2.70
CICA Microsoft windows sh 19.00
Cafe Flesh a 39.98
Clip Art Goliath cl 9.98
Clip Art Heaven cl 19.00
Complete Bookshop li 9.98
Complete Home & Office Legal Guide cl 9.98
Computer Reference Library cl 9.98
Cookbook Heaven re 19.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles en 9.98
Debbie Does Dallas a 39.00
Deep Throat a 39.00
Dictionaries & Language re 9.98
Digital Dreams a 31.00
Encyclopedia of Sound mu 9.98
Exotic Girls a 30.00
Extreme Delight (adult CD) a 32.00
Fontmaster I cl 9.98
Kama Sutra a 50.00
Kodak Photo CD Software cl 19.00
Laser Printer Companion OEM ut 19.00
Local Girls a 29.50
Lovely Ladies II a 38.00
MLT l68T Earphones h 4.00
Media Box CD Storage Cases h 18.00
Mother of Clip Art cl 19.00
Mystic of the Orient a 49.00
New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM a 7.00
New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM a 7.00
New Wave Hookers Vol. 1 a 39.00
New Wave Hookers Vol. 2 a 39.00
Original Shareware l992 sh 9.98
Our Solar System re 9.98
PC Sig Games en 10.00
Phoenix 3.0 sh 9.98
Photo Gallery by Steve Hicks a 34.98
QRZ Ham Radio sh 19.00
Rimfire Pacific Video a 39.00
Rom Material OEM Vision cl 19.00
Seedy Movies a 39.00
Sennheiser Earphone Set h 7.00
Shareware Heaven sh 19.00
Shareware Overload sh 9.98
Simtel 20 pr 19.00
Smutware a 30.00
Software Vault II sh 19.00
Sound Sensations mu 9.98
Southern Beauties a 38.00
Sprite pr 19.00
Super CD II sh 19.00
Super Clipart cl 8.00
Surfs up! a 30.00
Swimwear 1993 a 30.00
Technotools pr 9.98
The Complete Cookbook re 9.98
To Many Typefonts cl 9.98
Traci, I Love You. a 39.00
Tropical Girls a 30.00
Windoware sh 9.98
Women of Venus a 28.00
World Traveller tr 9.98
CD-ROM DISC'S (USED):
VGA Spectrum $20.00 or B/O
Microshelf Bookshelf $10.00 (SOLD)
Hot Pix 3 $35.00 or B/O
Storm II $35.00 or B/O
Battle Chess $15.00 or B/O
PC Gameroom $15.00 or B/O
The Wiz-Pak 6-pak $15.00 or B/O
So Much Shareware 2 $15.00 or B/O
OtherWare 1 $25.00 or B/O
Asian Ladies $35.00 or B/O
No reasonable offers refused!
Shipping terms: Purchaser pays shipping! U.P.S., C.O.D., under 2 lbs
Priority Mail.
For further information contact:
Joe Rinehart
5400 Lakewood Road
Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
Voice: (216) 296-9831
Voice/messages/fax: (216) 297-1332
Toll-Free (in Ohio Only) 1-800-521-2881
Data/fax (216) 296-4446 ZyXel 16.8 "The Blue Parrot RBBS"
FidoNet: 1:157/479
KesherNet: 18:711/176
RBBSNet: 8:965/13
WWIVNet: 2@2659
... Written while sailing Lake Hodgson, 2 miles east of K.S.U.
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From: TED KIDD Number: 5959
To: BOB CENTERBAR Date: 10/09/93 11:56a
Subj: CD's on a Novell Server Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BC> Couldn't get it to mount myself, but did map them off a terminal,
BC> worksfine for the BBS. Wastold that they could be mounted with the
BC> properdrivers from Novell.
Yeah... but that costs a bunch! Novell version 3.12(?) is supposedly CD-Rom
friendly..... still a pretty penny for the upgrade.
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From: MAX GREEN Number: 5960
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/10/93 7:47a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On (09 Oct 93) Michael Harris wrote to all...
MH> I have some cd's I'd like to sell they are:
MH>
MH> Secret weapons of the LuftWaffe
MH> four tours of duty on one cd
MH> VGA sb support
MH> $15.00
Hello Michael. I will buy the above CD and pay shipping. Please
call to confirm this sale. (504)392-7059 weekend/nights, (504)
464-3289. Thanks. Max
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From: MICHAEL GUIDRY Number: 5961
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/10/93 12:27p
Subj: Cd's For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09 Oct 93, Michael Harris stated to All:
MH>I have some cd's I'd like to sell they are: Secret weapons of the
MH>LuftWaffe four tours of duty on one cd VGA sb support $15.00 Loom
MH>Graphic adventure game mouse interacts on screen, vga and sb
MH>support $15.00 Secret of Monkey Island vga mouse and sb support
MH>$15.00 Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego Deluxe vga mouse and
MH>sb support $20.00 reply here please. if someone is interested
MH>I'll find out the exact cost of shipping. Send routed net-mail if
MH>you like. Mike Harris --- *
MH>Origin: Borg's Dominion Dover DE (1:2600/195)
Will take the SWOTL if it's got the docs. Let me know how you want to
do the transaction.
Mike. My real fido address is 1:396/1.4
... We are the most intelligent planet on earth - Dan Quayle
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From: SAM FIGUEROA Number: 5962
To: HOWARD ONEIL Date: 10/03/93 9:34a
Subj: Cash & Trade Deal Despera Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HO> CASH & TRADE DEAL DESPERATELY WANTED
HO> ------------------------------------
HO> I have a Seagate ST251 with a Western Digital, WD-1003SR-2 RLL controller
HO>make the drive a 65meg. I was asking $80.00 for both, but would prefer maki
HO>a trade arrangement, for other hardware, perhaps a CDROM, VGA Monitor or 3/4
HO>Upgradable motherboard with at least 1 VL Bus slot, CACHE not necessary.
HO> I have RLL'ed and MFM this drive without problems while using this and oth
HO>controllers, (this being a 16 bit format and can't forsee future problems).
HO> The controller will address a SINGLE floppy drive of ANY type or PAIR of H
HO>-drives. From day one however, it has refused to function with more than on
HO>floppy drive. Perhaps due to the type or manner in which my cables were
HO>hooked up, I dont know!
HO> If ANYONE is interested, in these as a pair, let me know and we can arrang
HO>a swap. I have the original box that the Seagate drive came in, which has
HO>side pocket where controller was also shipped. A NO D.O.A. and COMPATABILIT
HO>guarentee with ANY SINGLE floppy or pairs of HD drives applies with these an
HO>I will include a copy of Disk Manager with it.
HO>I'm presently using the drive, but can have it out in a day.
HO>Howard
HO>--- Maximus 2.01wb
HO> * Origin: The LAIR * Yeah, but can it play Pink Floyd ? * 412-771-9218
HO>(1:129/133)
I hate to tell ya this, but why would anyone in their right mind trade a
386 or 386 motherboard, vga, or cdrom for an old RLL or MFM adn low
capactiy drive.
No offense or hostility meant,
Sam Figueroa
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From: SAM FIGUEROA Number: 5963
To: JEFF JENKINS Date: 10/03/93 9:54a
Subj: CD for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JJ>I have a brand new "Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego"
JJ>on CD for sale.
JJ>20.00
JJ>will also consider trades
JJ>leave mail....
JJ>--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
JJ> * Origin: The Hog Trough!! (602)545-9130 ZyXEL U-1496E v.32bis (1:114/1)
Jeff,
I've been looking for this cd used for sometime and nobody seems
to want to sell it or trade it! I have a cd called Nautilus CD,
which has lots of multimedia clips and Video for Windows on it
and I also have another cd called Wizards 6-Pak, it has lots of
kids games on it! I might be able to make some sort of
argreement with ya on the cd??
BTW does the Carmen Sandiego CD require a real fast
cdrom for I'm running a 150k/sec 700ms cd-rom!???????
On a 386dx/40 with a 345 meg hard drive!
Sincerely interested,
Sam Figueroa
Sam's Software
(615) 728-7383
Give me a call if ya want!
Ohh I also have The Secret of Monkey Island for trade also!
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From: RANDY NEUNER Number: 5964
To: BOB DAMATO Date: 10/09/93 7:28a
Subj: Re: ASIAN LADIES FOR TRAD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BD> I have southern beauties... My advice is they should have called it
I will trade you T & A 2 The Maxx for the adult disc. It is the
new 1993 one from Profit Press.
Randy
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 5965
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 10/09/93 3:51p
Subj: Re: CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry all the items were sold Thanks for asking. Eldon
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 5966
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 5:54p
Subj: Comptons MM Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have (1) of Comptons Multimedia Encyclopedia's for sale. I opened it,
tried it out for about 10 minutes... thought it was great, but I will not
have a use for this fine CD in the near future. But do need the money.
So $40 gets it. I will include 2-day air if you pre-pay.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 5967
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 5:56p
Subj: Hobbes OS/2 Archive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have (1) of Hobbes OS/2 Archive CD's for sale. This is not the new one
on the market, so I will let it go for $15, and will pay P&H if you pre-pay.
I do not have OS/2, so its doing me no good at all. I might be willing to
trade also, for a decent CD... like clip-art would work pretty good for me.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: SERGIO MASCARENHAS Number: 5968
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/09/93 5:38a
Subj: My Order Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi, Mike!
Did you receive my orders? I didn't receive any feedback. :-(
Thanks
Sergio
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From: DWAYNE COFFELT Number: 5969
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/06/93 6:31p
Subj: Dou Have Computer Select Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Mike,
Do you carry the CD "Computer Select" or can you get it and if so how
much ? (I figure it's kinda steep but I won't know if I don't ask
right ?)
BTW - This is a reference disk that contains articles from many major
computer magazines and periodicals, etc. - it comes with a decent search
engine and will allow easy printing of full text of many articles. The
articles are from mags like Computer Shopper, PC Magazine, LAN Times,
etc., It also has info other than that on the articles.
___
X RM 1.2 00799 X Originality is the art of concealing your source.
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 5970
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 5:43p
Subj: PIER 3 FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NEW PIER 3 CD-ROMS FOR SALE
$ 32.OO AND FREE SHIPPING
SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497
ALSO HAVE FREE CD-ROM CATALOG WITH OVER 200 TITLES.
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 5971
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 5:55p
Subj: CD-ROM'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FREE CD-ROM CATALOG---OVER 200 TITLES
FREE SHIPPING
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 5972
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 5:57p
Subj: CD-ROM SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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19.ENCY. OF SOUND 20.DICT.& LANGUAGES 21.MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART
22.DESKTOP BOOKSHOP 23.CLIPART GOLIATH 24.BIBLES & RELIGION
25.ANECDOTES 26.VGA SPECTRUM 27.SELECTWARE
28.ORIGINAL SHAREWARE 29.GAME ARENA 30.FONT MASTER 1
31.JOKES & PRANKS 32.LEARNING ADVENTURE 33.CALIFORNIA COLLECTION
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From: ED NELSON Number: 5973
To: BILL CODY Date: 10/08/93 8:56p
Subj: GUNS-FOR-ALL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Recently, Bill, you noted that . . .
>Most people, like myself, simply don't want to find that we are
>criminals for defending our own families and property, which is what
>much of the gun control stuff would make us.
Of course you don't want to be called criminal on such a basis,
Bill. Also, I imagine you might be reluctant if I engaged in some
criminal activity but found a way to explain it was "in defense of my
family and property." Most of us are unhappy with the tangled mess of
our laws -- but that tangle seems a natural product of our talent in
finding escape hatches from more simple laws.
We're a society that values individuals' options. Unfortunately,
that ends up rewarding a successful search for loopholes. Too bad.
>It is no secret that the police are unable to protect most citizens
>most of the time, and that leaves some very big gaps in everyone's
>personal security. Some people are dumb enough to risk that for
>themselves, . . .
To tell the truth, Bill, I think you're talking about The Social
Contract. Rousseau, in 1762, presented it as the =implicit= agreement
by which we create a civilized society. (Some aspects of a social
contract had been at least implied since Plato, however.) If we are to
constitute a civilised society, it seems to me something of that
nature is essential. The Arm-Yourself crowd goes back to Thomas Hobbs
and the idea that "the life of Man, in nature, is nasty, brutish, and
short"! Pretty blunt phrasing, that, No? He described the pre-
civilized world as "a state of war of all against all."
> but it becomes what many consider irresponsible when it
>comes to making that decision for their families who are often unaware
>of the dangers around them.
...and I must say I simply won't accept that I must adopt Hobbs'
pre-civilization concept as describing the world I -- and my family --
live in today. Yes, I know there are horrors. But I feel the data
demonstrate, clearly, that having killing equipment handily available
to more and more people is no kind of solution. Indeed, the
proliferation of this equipment seems to me more of the problem!
Stocking either my neighborhood or my house or even my closet with
such equipment doesn't, in my mind, qualify as acting responsibly!
Furthermore, while the numerical bulk of the ARA membership is
individuals, there's no question (at least in my mind!) that the power
source, the professional management and organizing, the history, and
huge amounts of the funding come from arms manufacturers. To their
stockholders' benefit, of course.
But for commercial organizations to back this deadly abundance,
and to foster it, and to excite fear to advance it -- I find that
apalling.
I anticipate, Bill, that many on your side of the discussion will
declare me a traitor to "The Amurrican Way o' Life"! As you'll
expect, I don't agree with that. On the other hand, I really don't
believe that Gen. Custer exemplified that way of life. Nor quite a
number of our more recent "heroes," for that matter.
>Of course there is also the argument that a man is entitled to let
>himself and his family out into the world, totally unprotected from
>violent criminals, simply to make the point the HE is some sort of an
>anti-gun advocate. But a lot of folks don't believe he has the right
>to make that choice for them and their families.
Do you suggest here, Bill, that I've chosen to expose my wife and
daughter to the horrors of the world's slobbering murders/rapists (all
armed!) as a device by which =I= can make a polkitical point?
It's quite possible to interpret your concluding paragraph as a
thinly veiled sneer, Bill. Generally I got the sense that you were
above such childishness, even if we disagree. I'll assume I was
right.
Thanks for your interest. Stay safe. --ed nelson
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From: DAVE BAKKER Number: 5974
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/07/93 10:38p
Subj: Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, just wondering when I can expect my disk, Mayo Clinic, I talked to
you on the phone almost two weeks ago (Sept 27). I sent a Money order with
my request. You said if I air mail it to you, you would get it in two
days and it would take 2 days to send it.
Just wondering where it is, as I'm starting to worry.
Dave Bakker, (St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada)
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 5975
To: BOB LEAR Date: 10/09/93 12:12p
Subj: Re: OPINIONS Refer: NONE
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In a message to All <10-04-93 23:33> Bob Lear wrote:
BL>> would recognize the void and were willing to try to fill it.
BL>> There is a great void here, and a great opportunity for someone.
Got the solution ! Gonna see if I can make it work, this will solve the
industry problems <trust me>. More later.....
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 5976
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/09/93 12:19p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD ROM'S Refer: NONE
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In a message to Brice Fleckenstein <10-08-93 06:38> Bob Jackson wrote:
BJ>> You had posted a message saying that you'd met Lee Noga at the BBS
BJ>> convention and that she WASN'T the lady on the cover of the Ecstasy
BJ>> CD. My question "Is this good news or bad news?" was meant as a
BJ>> joke. No big deal....
Bad news :)--Wore a 'Black' cowboy hat to signify my acceptance of
resposibility for providing sysops past collections (the industry standard
then) that now are getting folks in trouble--Next year, I wear the 'White' hat,
as the sysops chosen solution.
Nothing special about me--T-shirts and blue jeans, and bags under my eyes
trying to manage this company and all the opportunities. Let me bust your
bubble, a sex symbol I am not :) But I *DO* fit into one of the top 3 male
fantasies......for real. Think MENSA, and figure it out :)))))
Hugs,
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: PHILIP MILLER Number: 5977
To: ALL Date: 10/06/93 10:12p
Subj: Corel Draw 3.0 Refer: NONE
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Is there anyone who has just recently upgraded to Corel Draw 4.0 and
willing to part with their Corel Draw 3.0 CDROM?
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 5978
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 10:34p
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
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I have some cd's I'd like to sell they are:
Secret weapons of the LuftWaffe
four tours of duty on one cd
VGA sb support
$15.00
Loom
Graphic adventure game
mouse interacts on screen, vga and sb support
$15.00
Secret of Monkey Island
vga mouse and sb support
$15.00
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego Deluxe
vga mouse and sb support
$20.00
reply here please. if someone is interested I'll find out the exact cost of
shipping.
Send routed net-mail if you like.
Mike Harris
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 5979
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 11:43p
Subj: CLIPART CD Refer: NONE
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Can someone reccommend a GODD Clipart CD. I know there are a bynch of them
out there but understand some are not so great. Thanks in advance.
Ron
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 5980
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 10/08/93 11:46p
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
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Hi Jim,
Got the CD today as scheduled. Thanks for the fast service! Can you tell
me which one of the Clipart CD's you carry is best? I'd like one packed
full with good file descriptions or maybe a viewer.
Thanks
Ron
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 5981
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 10/08/93 11:52p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR OCTOBER 9 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>************************ CLIPART **********************************
AS>
AS>Clip Art Galore........... 25.00 Clip Art Goliath......... 25.00
AS>Corel ArtShow............. 79.00 Font Fun House........... 39.00
AS>Lovely Ladies 2........... 39.00 Media Clips Business..... 29.00
AS>Media Clips Island........ 29.00 Media Clips Jets......... 29.00
AS>Media Clips Majestic...... 29.00 Media Clisp Money........ 29.00
AS>Media Clips Wild.......... 29.00 Media Clips World........ 29.00
AS>Mother Earth 2............ 29.00
AS>SoMuch Screenware......... 35.00
AS>Electronic Library of Art 69.50
Adrain,
Which one of these are REALLY good?? Do any have programs on them,
prefereably windows based, that allows you to view each file to see if you
like it?
WinQwk 2.0 a#435
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From: BOB DAMATO Number: 5982
To: ANTON THE PIMP Date: 10/08/93 8:30p
Subj: HACKER CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can you give me more information on the ones that you DO have??? Sounds
interesting. i.e. whats on it, where I can buy it etc.........
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 5983
To: BOB MASENGILL Date: 10/09/93 10:03p
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Bob!
The money is in the mail! Let me know when you get it, or when you mail it
off, thanks! when you send it please spell out Ninth as Texan's can't read zip
codes and it will go some where eles!
Pat
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5984
To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Date: 10/08/93 7:46p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST Refer: NONE
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JD>And I would buy from you before I bought from him for that very reason.
Thanks, but I think you may be taking Lee all wrong. "She" isn't so
bad! <G>
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5985
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/08/93 8:36p
Subj: CD-Rom Closeout Refer: NONE
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>You need to get the proper advice for your State, and make your own
>decisions, just like we did. With cable, satellite, video and mens
>mags, how could T&A on a different media be so horrible ? There are
>bigger fish to catch then chasing T&A folks--Again, my opinion only.
>Consult with a first amendment attorney, before you shutdown a
>prosperous side of your biz....it's worth the money !!
That's good advice, Lee. I appreciate it! I am out of the X business
for good. T&A is the most I will do in the future. I really didn't
understand the market very well before I heard of the interest the law
is taking in this. I will carry the titles you produce since I already
know you produce only the best quality! Btw, could you send me some
dealer info for your titles? I'd sure appreciate it.
Computer Works Jim...
Rt 3 Box 794-B
Ashford, AL 36312
(205) 793-4481
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5986
To: TIGER MOSES Date: 10/08/93 9:32p
Subj: Roms Refer: NONE
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TM>I left message via a SPIT bbs, I use bizzare Powerboard (for now...)Will
>probably get EZ and try it out and see how it does with 2 ROMs.
Well, good luck with it. Let me know if you need any help, or need a
fresh CD-Rom catalog. <G> Take care.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5987
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 9:43p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet! Refer: NONE
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I have been very busy working on our new catalog with the most titles
and lowest prices yet. This price list can be downloaded from the
Computer Works BBS on your first call at 14.4 kbps. Here is a small
sampling of our regular prices:
Big Sky Rom $26 Night Owl 9 $24
CICA Windows $14 Hacker Chronicles $25
Monster Media #1 1993 $30 Night Owl Graphics $29
PC Sig 12 $24 Phoenix Rom 4.0 $23
Shareware Explorer Set $53 So Much Shareware 3 $26
Software Vault 2 $23 Software Vault Gold $27
Night Owl 10 $35 Pier 3 $35
Compare our prices to anyone and you will see that we are a serious
competitor in the CD-Rom market. We now sell over 600 titles in many
different categories for the largest selection available. If you see a
lower price on any non-closeout title, bring it to us and we will beat
it! Download CATALOG1.ZIP for the list sorted by titles or CATALOG2.ZIP
for the list sorted by category.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders 24 Hours/Day
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 5988
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/09/93 6:06p
Subj: Tax Refer: NONE
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BF> All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
Hello Brice. You may want to reconsider the above wording. I know
where I am, it is not legal to do it that way, even though it makes
sense. They claim that they are losing money since the tax base is a
smaller amount when you take it out of the standard price.
Just something to think about. Hope you don't mind. :)
Jim...
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 5989
To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 10/10/93 5:47p
Subj: Adult cd price list Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JM> In a recent back-stabbing attack you directed at Ms Lee
JM> Noga, you said, among other things:
Back stabbing? Get a grip.
JM> JD> What concerns me is
JM> JD>that you are not willing to stand behind your product.
JM> By saying this you display your complete ignorance of her
JM> excellant reputation, both here and in the business. She is
Look, I don't mean to be rude, but it appears you do. I was talking with her
about the lack of a quality assurance warranty. I would have no problem with
exchange with her, but I really am sick of this whole damn thing. I do not
feel I was asking too much here considering the product (not her reputation)
was in question.
JM> She is
JM> too much of a lady to tell you what you needed to hear
And you have no idea either. Look, I don't know who you are, nor do I really
care at this point. I don't think I was asking too much, she thinks I was,
and I will therefore not buy disks from her.. But I don't see why what I buy
or do not buy from her should make one bit of difference to you. You like her
stuff so much, you buy it, and leave me out of it. I am sick of having to
defend my desire as the consumer to be able to be assured of the quality in
the marketplace that I am asking for.
JM> though, and that's why I'm butting in where I wasn't
JM> invited.
The first truth I've read from you.. Nor you can butt out just as easily. I
am sick and tired oif having to explain my self to worthless people like you
who just don't get it.
Have a nice Day...
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 5990
To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 10/10/93 5:48p
Subj: Adult cd price list Refer: NONE
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JM> I think most folks who know and respect her would agree with
JM> my tag line, specifically made just for you.
JM> * Origin: HelpNet For the Impaired - (216)-356-1872
And I think the origin says the most of you and your system.. Impaired.
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From: FRANK GRESH Number: 5991
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/10/93 8:23a
Subj: Precision Mapping Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS>FG>which one, and if it was something other than Street Atlas 2, which
MS>FG>product would you recommend (IYHO). I replied with an order for
MS>FG>Street Atlas 2 for $95.00, but if this program works as well as,
MS>Well, with the release of Street Atlas 2, I believe it is the *ultimate*
MS>right now, at least in the "realistic" price range. It seems to have
MS>some aesthetic advantages over P.M., but the data for each should be
MS>about the same vintage. Bottom line: spend a few extra bucks and get
MS>the Cadillac. You will appreciate Street Atlas 2 long after the sting
MS>of paying a little more has worn off.
MS>Later,
MS>.\\ike
OK, Street Atlas 2 it is, If you could send it this was por favor.
Frank
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From: MEINDERT VAN DER VEER Number: 5992
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/07/93 11:16p
Subj: Re: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
In your great wisdom you wrote the following to All:
Hi Mike,
I faxed an order. Was it received?
Cheerio
Meindert
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From: KURTIS KOLE Number: 5993
To: BRAD PAYNTER Date: 10/09/93 9:42a
Subj: BBabes For Sale or trade Refer: NONE
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-> Hi there-
-> I've got a copy of Busty Babes, not to sure whether it's volume one o
-> since there is no volume number on it, I have to assume it is. I'd li
-> trade it for a good map disk or a shareware disk or two. Of course I'
-> dead presidents if that's all you've got.
-> Leave a note here and I'll get back to you.
->
-> Peace - Brad
->
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Hi,
I have The Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack with Mavis Beacon
Teaches Typing, Chessmaster 3000, U.S. Atlas, World Atlas on it that I
would trade you. Leave email if interested...
Kurt
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From: RAY HEROLD Number: 5994
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 11:42a
Subj: Night Owl v10 Refer: NONE
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NIGHT OWL SHAREWARE CD VERSION 10
Price: $39
Percent 1993 files................................... 100%
Percent files dated Jan-Jun '93...................... 34%
Percent files dated Jul-Sep '93 (age 3 mo. or less).. 66% !!!!!
Percent dupes with Night Owl 9....................... 0%
Percent internal dupes on CD......................... 0%
Total Meg: 647 Total Files: 5,139
Dates reported reflect actual file dates (.EXE, .COM, .OVL, etc.), not ZIP
dates. Night Owl 10 contains the NEWEST and MOST CURRENT files available on
any CD, BAR NONE! In fact, nearly 100 Meg. of the total files are from
Sept. '93! The Night Owl v9/v10 combo ($59) provides 1.3 Gigabytes of
unduplicated files from 1993!
** Games ** Communications ** Utilities ** Windows 3.1 ** OS/2 **
** Graphics ** GIFs ** Demos ** Data Base ** Modem ** Video **
** DV/QEMM ** Menus/Shells ** Compression ** Virus ** Spreadsheet **
** Network/LAN ** Offline Mail ** Fonts ** Word Processing ** DOS **
** BASIC ** PASCAL ** Business/Finacne ** Unix/Linux ** MORE!!
Night Owl's Publisher and TCM Computing have again joined forces to bring
you the very *best* Shareware CD available. Our last two joint-efforts
(NOPV9 and Graphics v1) have received rave reviews from both our customers
and the CD-ROM industry (see the Sep/Oct 1993 issue of "CD-ROM Reporter").
Now, WE'VE DONE IT AGAIN!
As with all Night Owl CDs, v10 is BBS ready (PCBoard DIR and FILES.BBS).
As the Night Owl Support BBS, TCM has conversion programs available to
generate the file directories for most BBS s/w. PLUS, the state-of-the-art
NIGHT.EXE retreival engine has had even more features adder for v10!!
This includes a mouse-driven interface for both DOS and WINDOWS!
File DIRs for v10 are available to d/l from TCM BBS as NIGHTV10.ZIP.
OTHER CDs AND COMBOs____________________________________________________
Night Owl v9 (670 Meg. all '93 Shareware).................. $29
Night Owl Graphics 1 (650 Meg. GIF,JPG,PCX,Animation,etc)...$29
Night Owl v9 & v10..........................................$59
Night Owl Graphics 1 & v10..................................$59
Night Owl Graphics 1, v9 & v10..............................$79
Night Owl Graphics 1, v8, v9, & v10.........................$99
You may place VISA/MC orders while online at TCM by typing ORDER at
the Main Menu prompt. (If you are a prior TCM Customer, you should use the
"Previous Customer" Menu selection in order to receive your discount).
Checks or Money Order should be sent to the address listed below.
TCM Computing accepts Visa, MasterCard, Money Orders and Check. C.O.D.
shipments are also welcome ($4 extra). Call TCM for all the information!
=> TCM BBS is the Official Night Owl Support Board <=
=> TCM is an authorized N.O. Distributor. Dealers call for pricing. <=
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From: KEITH SATURN Number: 5995
To: CHRISTINE UNDERWOOD Date: 10/09/93 12:17a
Subj: Genealogy CDs Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Christine Underwood to All <=-
CU> Does anyone know of a company that puts out genealogy related CDs?
CU> Thanks
CU> Chris
I recently purchased ProPhone national telephone directory... I have found
it somewhat helpful, but I have encounter SEVERAL listings in it that claim
to be from the '92 phone books that are actually as old as the '89-'90
editions.
My original intended use was to get updated address and phone info for my own
databases. So far I have been useing it to help friends of mine locate others
who have the same surname...
Perhaps there may be somebody here who could help you obtain a copy,
as dissatisfied as I am with the accuracy of the dates, I plan on useing it
some more...
Keith Saturn.
... DINNER NOT FOUND (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 5996
To: SERGIO MASCARENHAS Date: 10/12/93 5:44a
Subj: My Order Refer: 9428
Read: NO Private: No
-> Hi, Mike!
->
-> Did you receive my orders? I didn't receive any feedback. :-(
Do not use this echo to conduct "one on one" business.
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 5997
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/12/93 5:50a
Subj: CD Player Refer: 9443
Read: NO Private: No
-> Hello Bob!
->
-> The money is in the mail! Let me know when you get it, or when you ma
-> off, thanks! when you send it please spell out Ninth as Texan's can't
-> codes and it will go some where eles!
Pat, don't use this echo to conduct "one on one" business with your
customers. Messages must "benefit everybody".
tim
moderator
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 5998
To: BOB DAMATO Date: 10/10/93 3:18p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES FOR TRADE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bob Damato beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
BD>I have southern beauties... My advice is they should have called it so
BD>barnyards... I wouldnt make that one high on your list!
Asian Ladies isn't a beauty pagent either. Most are just so-so and about
35% of the girls aren't even Asian!
Ron
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * NO special rights for behavior!
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From: BOB CENTERBAR Number: 5999
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 8:27a
Subj: Giffy Gold CD for Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Selling Giffy Gold (Adult CD) for $30.00 plus shipping, prepaid.
This is one of the few adult CDs that can be legally used on a BBS
when in relates to copywrite laws.
If you enjoy the "girl next door" type images then this disk is for
you. It's made up of amatuer poses of lovely gals from San Diego area
and even has a few "G" rated images. Most images would be considered
"R" rated but there are some I'd consider "X" rated.
Leave a message, netmail or call (817)699-6525 after 5pm (CST)
weekdays until about 10pm or just about anytime weekends.
Thanks....Bob
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Turn your 386 into an XT, use Windows!"
* LAKOTA v1.1
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From: RON THOMPSON Number: 6000
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 4:30p
Subj: Macintosh Titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To all vendors, (or others also):
I am looking for Arthur's Teacher Trouble, and Just Grandma and Me on
Cdrom for Macintosh. Please make me an offer I can't refuse on these
two. I was quoted a price of $18.00 on the ATT disk (over the phone from
a certain nameless company), but, when it arrived, the bill was for
$49.00 --- quite a difference!
Why not get the prices on Mac Cdroms more in line with those for the
IBM? Any answers out there as to why the HUGE price differences?
Thanks!
--- WM v3.10/91-0027
* Origin: The SWIPCC Clubhouse BBS *Wildcat!* 915-594-0144 (1:381/66)
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From: DAVE WILGA Number: 6001
To: COREY BICCUM Date: 10/10/93 10:32p
Subj: Cdrom cable Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BD> ...I called Media Vision, (the pro audio
BD> spectrum uses same cable) They didnt sell it either. But if you
BD> go to a show, you can get them there. They are $4, but know what
BD> kind of connector you need at each end, as there are a couple
BD> different types. But it will work. I beleive one end has 4
BD> wires, and the othe has 5!! You will find it at a show
BD> though.... good luck.
Look REAL closely at the Sound card and CD-ROM. I recently was connecting
a PAS-16 to a Toshiba 3401 and found that although each had 4-5 pin
connectors, neither one was USING all of them. If you hold the card up to
a strong light you will probably see that 2-4 pins are soldered together
making the necessary cable a 3 wire unit. As for myself, I used a piece of
2wire (shielded) Radio Shack cable soldered to a old 3pin plug.
If you use this method try for a twisted pair cable, straight cable will
work with little or no loss, but a twisted cable eliminates possible
crosstalk between the lines. This is probably inconsequential in a 12" run
but you might as well pay the extra .10 cents
Good luck, hope this helps.
---
* JABBER v1.2 * So simple a child could do it... go find me a child!
--- Squish v1.01
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6002
To: TED KIDD Date: 10/10/93 9:34a
Subj: CD's on a Novell Servere Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TK> Does anyone know how to mount CD-Rom drives on a
TK> Novell file server (using Novell Version 3.11).
TK> Please list any available info you may have (products and prices).
TK> Thanks
TK> --- FreeMail 1.09
You need one of the software packages like SCSI Express.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6003
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/10/93 9:41a
Subj: Re: Brand New Cd-rom Titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GR>> MS> TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark
GR>> Mike, is this Disk any good? what sort of Pics are on it?
LN> If this is the one imported in from Europe as a title vs having been
LN> published in Denmark--The disc is a dupe of the
LN> best areas of other existing CD's so I hear--Forget
LN> the name off hand, but one came in from Europe
I glanced at it and it looks just about the same as one of John O'Connor's
titles....forgot the name....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6004
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/10/93 9:47a
Subj: Queer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> Hello Ismail!
Glad to see your defending yourself.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6005
To: DON NELSON Date: 10/10/93 5:02p
Subj: Dave Reed vs GroupWare Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DN> Do you know what has happened to Mr. Arslangiray?
DN> I've tried his BBS on a number of occasions, all
DN> it does is ring. Has Mr. Arslangiray seems to
DN> have disappeared.
Did you try his voice? I've seen some folks buying things lately so he ought
to be there....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6006
To: NATHANIEL BRITTS Date: 10/10/93 5:15p
Subj: wanted cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> I am looking for 1. San Diego Zoo
NB> 2. Manpower (adult)
NB> 3. Mammals-National Geo.
NB> 4. Any Font cd or Music cd
NB> 5. Grandma and Me
NB> If anyone is willing to sell any of these at a
NB> reasonable price drop me a line
NB> either on here or call me at 804-296-4776. Am not
I will sell you all 5 titles with Too Many Typefonts for $125 plus $5 shipping.
Call 615-339-0235 to order. Mention to the ordertaker I made you this offer
in the Fido CD for sale echo.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6007
To: JOHN RICKER Date: 10/10/93 5:20p
Subj: hacker chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
We have the Hacker Chronicles in stock for $25.95 plus shipping. Call
615-339-0235 to order. No surcharges for credit card usage.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6008
To: CRAIG NYLUND Date: 10/10/93 5:21p
Subj: meds-cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CN> Is there a cd that covers most pharmacy medications
CN> like a PDR? If so, where
CN> can I get it and how much?
CN> ---
The full blown PDR is about $800. Family Doctor covers about 1600 prescription
drugs. We sell it for $22.95 plus shipping. There is also the Pharmicists
Guide to drugs but it only covers 200 of them. There is also a Compton's title
out call The Pill Book which I don't have a description on yet that goes for
$34.95. Call 615-339-0235 to discuss or 800-547-7817 when ready to order.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6009
To: PHILIP POLSTRA Date: 10/10/93 5:24p
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PP> Shipping this month? When I pre-ordered the disk I
PP> was told shipping the first week of this month
PP> which ends in two days. I've allready got all my
PP> users hyped on this CD, they'll linch me if I don't
PP> deliver. :(
CDROM makers always seem to have trouble meeting their proposed shipping dates
due to a variety of reasons often beyond their control. It is never safe to
promise a date on a new CD. They can usually only come close.
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From: ROBIN HARDISON Number: 6010
To: HOWARD ONEIL Date: 10/10/93 3:17p
Subj: drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Can you believe SAM FIGUEROA talked about Cash & Trade Deal Despera
HO> I have a Seagate ST251 with a Western Digital, WD-1003SR-2 RLL controller
HO>make the drive a 65meg. I was asking $80.00 for both, but would prefer
maki
I was just wanted to ask a question. You mean hooking up a RLL controller to
this 40 meg. MFM drive, it will make a 65 meg. drive? Will any RLL controller
do this? I have a 251-1 and was just wondering.
Thanks.
I know this is off-topic, but I just got a quote from your original message
from someone else and didn't have a node # to send netmail.
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From: MARK CLARDY Number: 6011
To: MAX GREEN Date: 10/10/93 12:34a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG> Hello Mark. Please place me on your mailing list for
MG> all CD titles and hardware catalogs. Thanks.
MG> Max Green
MG> 399 Westmeade Dr.
MG> Gretna, La. 70056.
Sure thing, Max. You should receive a catalog soon. Thank you for
your interest.
Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY Number: 6012
To: NATHANIEL BRITTS Date: 10/10/93 1:03a
Subj: wanted cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> 3. Mammals-National Geo.
Computer Works sells this for 24.00. It would be shipped 2 Day
Priority Mail, and shipping rates are $4.00 for up to 5 CD's and $0.50
for every CD after the first 5. Hope I have been of help.
Mark
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!
Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
(205) 671-0092 - BBS
(205) 793-4481 - Voice
SysOp - Jim Lambert CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: MARK CLARDY Number: 6013
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 1:07a
Subj: Business CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello, Everyone! The following is a list of the Business CD's carried
by Computer Works. If you would like a Catalog of all the CD's carried
by Computer Works, just tell me your address, and we will mail one to
you.
Business
11 Million Business Phone Numbers............22.00
American Business Phone Book 93-94...........35.00
American Business Phone Book.................16.00
Autodesk Explorer............................84.00
Britannica Select Software...................24.00
Business Assistant...........................12.00
Business Master..............................19.00
Career Oppurtunities.........................29.00
CD Lists Southern California................139.00
Essential Home & Business Collection.........49.00
Home Computer Starter Kit....................39.00
Home Office Software.........................44.00
Int'l. Business & Economic Atlas.............23.00
Lazer Tax....................................21.00
Marvis Beacon Teaches Typing.................24.00
Microsoft Works..............................39.00
My Advanced Label Designer...................53.00
North American FAX Book......................38.00
Phone Disc USA Business......................69.00
Phone Disc USA Residential...................64.00
ProPhone 1992................................42.00
ProPhone 1993................................96.00
ProPhone 1993 Mid Year Edition...............99.00
ProPhone Business 1993.......................26.00
Q & A........................................42.00
Win CD.......................................39.00
All CD's are shipped 2 Day Priority Mail. Shipping rates are $4.00
for up to 5 CD's, and $0.50 for every CD after the first 5. Thank you
for your time.
Mark
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!
Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
(205) 671-0092 - BBS
(205) 793-4481 - Voice
SysOp - Jim Lambert CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: KEVIN OLIVER Number: 6014
To: PATRICK SHEN Date: 10/10/93 2:13p
Subj: Cd-rom for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PS> I have following CD-ROMs for sale. All CD-ROMs are in
PS> New Condition. Add $3 for UPS or Priority Mail
PS> shipping.
PS> 7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set). Smooth full
PS> motion video. Best CD ever made.
PS> -------------- $42.00
VERY interested, is it the full featured version?
Kevin
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From: TOMMY SZAJKO Number: 6015
To: DAVID ROBERTS Date: 10/09/93 2:00p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0 4sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DRInstead of putting a stupid message in this echo that says,
DRBusty Babes 1.0
DRfor sale to highest bidder!, I'll go ahead and say I wish to
DRsell this
DRoriginal for $125 straight out. If you are interested, please
And if you pay more than $30 bucks for it then you should get your head
examined, because I have Busty Babes 1.0 (original) and it was $29.95 at a
computer show... You really shouldn't be ripping people off...
--- GEcho
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From: BUCKY NOEL Number: 6016
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 4:15p
Subj: SEGA GENESIS W/ CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm selling a SEGA GENESIS w/ A SEGA CD-ROM
and 5 games including:
Sewer Shark (CD-ROM)
Altered Beast
Mickey Mouse in the Castle of Illusion (Don't let the name fool ya!)
Arrow Flash
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
all of this for $350 or for $325 without Sonic the Hedgehog 2
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: JOHN LOVING Number: 6017
To: ROB O'DELL Date: 10/09/93 6:47p
Subj: Nec Portable Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-05-93 ROB O'DELL wrote to ALL...
RO> I have a few NEC Intersect 36 PORTABLE CD-ROMs laying around.
RO> They are SCSI interface and come with power supply and manual.
RO>
RO> $99.00 each.
RO>
RO> Reply here or for best results netmail @ 1:2380/100.
RO>
RO> Rob O'Dell
RO>
RO>
RO> --- WM v3.01/93-0552
RO> * Origin: Computer Alley BBS - Monroe Net Host - (1:2380/100.0)
Rob, How about a phone number so we can talk turkey. I might be interested
John Loving
... OFFLINE 1.42 * This is a tag line
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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN Number: 6018
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/10/93 9:57a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Most of your response deleted to keep the quote police off my back.
>>I'm sick of having to defend my belief that if a seller is not
>>willing to stand behind his product, that a person should be concerned...
> If they were unwilling to take a DEFECTIVE product
> back, it would be a matter
> for concern. That they are unwilling to guarentee that
> a product matches YOUR
> TASTE is not - THAT is a fact of human existance.
But you see with the return/refund policy he wanted, then he doesn't have to
take ANY responsibility of his own. I own a couple of cdroms that I think suck
for content. They are technically ok, so I don't have a leg to stand on to
expect a refund.
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From: RICK WEAVER Number: 6019
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/10/93 2:23p
Subj: compton's Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
I'll take one of those $66 compton's encyclopedias if you have one left! Give
me a call at 378-0559 soon! Thanks.
Rick Weaver
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From: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS Number: 6020
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 10/11/93 12:36a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL> JD>And I would buy from you before I bought from him for that very reason.
JL>
JL> Thanks, but I think you may be taking Lee all wrong. "She"
JL> isn't so bad! <G>
That may be true. I honestly know very little about Lee and the operation she
runs... That is why I asked for a warranty in the first place.. I have never
said she does not have a quality product (or that it was not for that matter)
because I have no way of knowing. I just have found in life if a seller is
willing to take the risk of standing behind there product, then the seller is
making a pledge about the product, and I feel more comfortable with it's
purchase. I have never returned any of the CD's I've bought, but the local
vendor that I have gotten quite a few of them from has always told me that he
would allow me to exchange them if I found they did not fit my needs. Anyway,
this entire message thread is really staring to get on my nerves, so if you
don't mind, I'd like to drop it once and for all.
Jean-Claude
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6021
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 1:55a
Subj: PIER 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
************************* P I E R 3 ******************************
New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs
PRICE - $25.00
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130
************************************************************************
Boris Osadciw
... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6022
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 1:55a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6023
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 1:55a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 10 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A L L N E W N I G H T O W L 10
* Over 5,100 NEW Files * Over 647 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0 * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
The ALL NEW "Night Owl 10 " is here and ready for delievery !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and Sept 1st
1993. In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Merry Xmas, Happy Hanukak, Feliz Navidad, etc, etc, etc
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From: LEWIS BULLARD Number: 6024
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 2:16p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Have a few items I need to get rid of. All items guaranteed against DOA.
Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250
Toshiba 42 meg MFM 3.5 hard drive with 5.25 mounting bracket
Shareware Extravaganza 4 cd's 25,000 programs
Sigcat 1992 software showcase, mostly DB stuff includes Wordperfect
5.1 manual, online bible among others.
Harvard Graphics for Windows, All manuals and letter to transfer reg
Logetech scanman 32 greyscale with paintshop
Kaypro II luggable computer with softcase, dual floppie, mono monitor
lots of cp/m software $75
AT&T business phone system, comkey, intercomm, speakerphone, 8 phones
with up to eight lines each $100
4 256x9 100ns simms
Professor Windows, learn windows at your own pace, box, dox and 5.25
only
Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, box, dox, reg, 5.25
Make offer on all items. Will consider trades on most. Am looking for
scsi controller with ext. ports, external scsi cases with cables,
Trantor parallel to scsi adapter, 14.4 ext. fax modem, reference cd's.
Lewis 405-357-5942
... Would she be happy with a Pet Rock instead?
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 6025
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 6:35p
Subj: Hobbes OS/2 Archive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have (1) of Hobbes OS/2 Archive CD's for sale. This is not the new one
on the market, so I will let it go for $15, and will pay P&H if you pre-pay.
I do not have OS/2, so its doing me no good at all. I might be willing to
trade also, for a decent CD... like clip-art would work pretty good for me.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: GARY GILMORE Number: 6026
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 10:12p
Subj: DFW Discount Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just wanted to say, that if you're looking for CDROMs, I placed an order with
DFW Discount Electronics for Shareware Vault Gold. When calling them, I got no
answer, but did leave a message on the machine.
The owner called me back the same day, and took the time to chat with me about
the CDs I was interested in. I placed my order (COD) and waited.
On the 3rd day, the order arrived, as promised.
The point: I got what I wanted, when promised, as promised.
I'd recommend considering DFW if you're in the market for a CD.
You can reach them at 800-829-0331, BBS (with disk info available!) at
214-259-4188.
I'm sure there's others out there too, who are "good guys". I just wanted to
let you know DFW belongs on that "Good Guys" list as well. :-)
--Gary
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 6027
To: CHET HART Date: 10/10/93 8:43a
Subj: CD-ROM for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CH> I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM "Legends of Porn
CH>2" for a text or multimedia encyclopedia of 1991 vintage or
CH>later. I'm not interested in any games.
How about 1991 MS Bookshelf?
■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ You are making progress if each mistake is a new one.
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From: KEVIN KING Number: 6028
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 10/09/93 10:56p
Subj: RESELLERS QUAERTERLY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dear Adrian Salas
I'll be sending your a pre-registered copy of our all NEW RESALE94.ZIP I just
finished it tonight and called a local Fido-net to check my messages. If you
are putting Shareware on CD-ROM, please include this RESALE94.ZIP if you would.
Also, If you sell CD-Roms to computer dealers, we would be interested in adding
your company to our database called "The Reseller's Source Kit"
If you do sell CD-ROM products to dealers, I also would like a dealer kit sent
to me for review. Thank You.
Kevin King, SysOp
"My Favorite BBS"
BBS: 916-381-2851 24hrs
Disk-Count Data
P.O. Box 277482
Sacramento, CA. 95827
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6029
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/09/93 9:06p
Subj: Re: FIDO Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Dallas Hinton <=-
MS> my own board, so I don't have netmail access. I wasn't ignoring you,
MS> just kind of blind right now when it comes to netmail. If you want to
That explains why you never acknowledged my netmail, also. C'mon, Mike.
Get with da PRO-gram. Some dude here in Space City is running a freeware
mailer - seems to do pretty good with it, too.
... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 6030
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/11/93 8:22a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris, do you have any idea when the new NEC 3x and 4x CD players will be out?
How about a projected street price?
I am also interested in a Toshiba 3401 portable. Do you have access to them?
Thanks!
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 6031
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/10/93 4:11p
Subj: CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL>Got the CD today as scheduled. Thanks for the fast service! Can you tell
>me which one of the Clipart CD's you carry is best?
Hi Ronald. Priority Mail has been pretty reliable for me. Some of the
better clipart discs are:
Encyclopedia of Clipart $24.00 BBS Ready
Desktop Publishers Dream Disk $37.00 Manual Included
Publisher's Paradise $32.00 Booklet Included
Thanks for your business. I appreciate it!
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: CHRIS BOURNE Number: 6032
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/10/93 6:46a
Subj: mag's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I belive you posted about the magizines subscriotions, do you
> know if Computer Shopper is part of that list or not and how
> much?
No, CS is not carried in their listings. (Wish it were myself)
Chris
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From: JEFF JENKINS Number: 6033
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 5:32a
Subj: CD for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego CD
brand new 20.00
leave mail...
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6034
To: FRANK GRESH Date: 10/09/93 1:50a
Subj: Precision Mapping Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FG>MS>FG>Mike, how much is this CD going for, between myself and my parents, we
FG>MS>FG>all travel alot, and this might be very very useful, let me
know..Frank
FG>MS>We have the latest version in stock at $77.
FG>Mike, I hate it when I loose track of a message thread, were we talking
FG>about Street Atlas 2 on this one, or another mapping product, and if so,
This price quote was for Precision Mapping.
FG>which one, and if it was something other than Street Atlas 2, which
FG>product would you recommend (IYHO). I replied with an order for
FG>Street Atlas 2 for $95.00, but if this program works as well as,
Well, with the release of Street Atlas 2, I believe it is the *ultimate*
right now, at least in the "realistic" price range. It seems to have
some aesthetic advantages over P.M., but the data for each should be
about the same vintage. Bottom line: spend a few extra bucks and get
the Cadillac. You will appreciate Street Atlas 2 long after the sting
of paying a little more has worn off.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6035
To: TED KIDD Date: 10/09/93 1:51a
Subj: NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TK>>MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24
TK>Please tell me that this disc is IBM BBS ready!!??
Sorry Ted, readable on Apple System CD-ROM drives only.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6036
To: HANK PETERSON Date: 10/09/93 1:51a
Subj: Replacement Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HP> them on a variety of equipment. I would love to buy the new
HP> Hackers Chronicle but am worried it won't play on my Texel.
I don't think you need to worry, but if it doesn't read Hacker's,
consider having the drive looked at.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6037
To: GEOFF REED Date: 10/09/93 1:51a
Subj: Brand New Cd-rom Titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GR><<***** On 09-30-93, Mike Shannon wrote to Frank Gresh: *****>>
GR>MS> TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark
GR> Mike, is this Disk any good? what sort of Pics are on it?
Just sent one to Bob J. Look for his review - he's a bit more objective
than I am on these adult CD's. ALL the girls look good to me. 8)
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6038
To: DALLAS HINTON Date: 10/09/93 1:51a
Subj: FIDO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dallas,
Heard from my local sysop today that you've been trying to reach me
by netmail. Unfortunately, I don't have the mailer installed yet on my
own board, so I don't have netmail access. I wasn't ignoring you, just
kind of blind right now when it comes to netmail. If you want to
discuss rules, etc., please feel free to call me at 509-457-2892
during normal business hours. I am open to whatever suggestions or
requirements you have for me.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6039
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 10/09/93 1:51a
Subj: TIME ZONES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
VS>I should thank you - that experience showed me that there was
VS>a dire need for a Canadian supplier of CD-ROMs. That episode
VS>caused me to do a bit of a survey - I ordered from 9 of the
VS>dealers in this echo, and 5 dealers I found in the Computer
VS>Shopper. I noted things such as ease of ordering, how LONG it
You ordered from nine dealers in this echo, and you didn't order
anything from me??? Just who were those masked men?
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6040
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 1:51a
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to make this public appeal to all Starvector's past, present,
and future customers:
A problem exists in Fidoland, and it has just recently come to my
attention. There exists a Fido policy which basically states that routed
Netmail is not to be used for the purposes of transacting any type of
commercial business. This includes solicitations, direct sales, price
quotes, catalog requests, and the like. I spoke with Dallas Hinton, the
zone coordinator for my area, on Thursday, October 7th, and he indicated
to me that a flood of Netmail was being sent to me, the bulk of which he
classified as "commercial" in nature. Since I do not have a mailer
installed on my own board at present, and I do not have Netmail access at
the local BBS which I utilize, none of these messages were reaching me,
resulting in several re-posts, making the problem even worse. If anyone
wishes to contact me regarding any business matters, PLEASE do so by
phone at 509-457-2892, or by modem at 509-457-2892, or by fax at 509-457-
2966, or alternatively, send public echomail. I don't know the status of
other dealers in this conference, but Mr. Hinton essentially told me that
my Netmail traffic was far and away his biggest concern.
In my very cordial discussions with Mr. Hinton, I explained to him that I
had no idea such a problem existed, and kindly offered to help rectify the
situation by making this public announcement, so PLEASE folks, I HONESTLY
DO appreciate your interest and your continued support, but for the sake
of the conference and the echo, let's lay off the Netmail, at least for
the purposes of conducting business. We are upgrading our puny little
BBS now to make way for more storage space, and hopefully a front-end
mailer (if I can figure out how to install the damn thing), so I would
hope that any Netmail messages to me could wait until then.
Lastly, I would just like to stress that this IS important, as several
zone coordinators have petitioned to have CDROM_SALE, COMMERCIAL 4SALE,
and various other conferences removed from the backbone because of
over-commercialization, which technically is a violation of Fidonet policy.
So please folks, let's not add fuel to the fire - reserve your routed
Netmail messages for issues which don't involve any type of commercial
transactions. This applies to sending Netmail to ANYONE, not just me.
Thanks for understanding,
.\\ike Shannon
Starvector Software
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6041
To: ALL Date: 10/09/93 1:51a
Subj: CD-ROM DUPE CHART II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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SHAREWARE CD DUPE CHART II from Starvector Software
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Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.3
(Available on Pier 3, or from the Starvector BBS at 509-457-0206)
SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2 PR2 = PIER 2
SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 PR3 = PIER 3
SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2 N09 = NIGHT OWL 9 N10 = NIGHT OWL 10
% OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
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>> Note: Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD. <<
PR2 PR3 N09 N10 SS2 SS3 SO2 SV2 SVG
+-----------------------------------------------------+
PR2| .00% .55% 19.7% 1.72% .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
PR3| .55% .00% 10.2% 36.0% .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
NO9|19.7% 10.2% .12% .08% 1.24% .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
N10|1.72% 36.0% .08% .00% .31% .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SS2| .02% .00% 1.24% .31% .01% .12% .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SS3|7.30% 8.14% .10% .00% .12% .02% 13.4% .00% 10.2%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38% .00% 13.4% .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58% .00% 25.4% .01% 1.69%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69% .00%|
+-----------------------------------------------------+
PRICES
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PIER 2..............29.00 PIER 3..............39.00
NIGHT OWL 9.........25.00 NIGHT OWL 10........35.00
SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..23.00 SHAREWARE STUDIO 3..25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT 2....24.00 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD.25.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE 2..29.00
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6042
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
____________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS |
|____________________________________________________|
> = new since last posting
9000 SOUNDS * From weird sound effect to musical scores. BBS-Ready.....$25
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$25
ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
CANADIAN SHAREWARE * Nice job by Betacorp on this new shareware CD!....$22
COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart. Royalty-free....$27
>COMPUTER REFERENCE LIBRARY * Tutorials for popular software packages...$13
DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$34
DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
GARDENING * Complete handbook for the home gardener on ROM!............$13
GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$25
KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$44
LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$27
LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A M/M space adventure for Macintosh only........$39
MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24
>MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$49
MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
>NIGHT OWL 10 * The newest from Night Owl's with 5100 all '93 files!....$35
PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$19
PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$77
PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$35
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
SHAREWARE ONLINE 2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!..$29
>SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * All new files with NO dupes to Night Owl 10!......$25
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$25
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN * Great new religious CD w/ several online Bibles.$23
STREET ATLAS v2 * Finally, we have an update with tons of new data!....$95
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6043
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: CD DUPE CHART II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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SHAREWARE CD DUPE CHART II from Starvector Software
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Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.3
(Available on Pier 3, or from the Starvector BBS at 509-457-0206)
SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2 PR2 = PIER 2
SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 PR3 = PIER 3
SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2 N09 = NIGHT OWL 9 N10 = NIGHT OWL 10
% OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
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>> Note: Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD. <<
PR2 PR3 N09 N10 SS2 SS3 SO2 SV2 SVG
+-----------------------------------------------------+
PR2| .00% .55% 19.7% 1.72% .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
PR3| .55% .00% 10.2% 36.0% .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
NO9|19.7% 10.2% .12% .08% 1.24% .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
N10|1.72% 36.0% .08% .00% .31% .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SS2| .02% .00% 1.24% .31% .01% .12% .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SS3|7.30% 8.14% .10% .00% .12% .02% 13.4% .00% 10.2%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38% .00% 13.4% .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58% .00% 25.4% .01% 1.69%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69% .00%|
+-----------------------------------------------------+
PRICES
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PIER 2..............29.00 PIER 3..............39.00
NIGHT OWL 9.........25.00 NIGHT OWL 10........35.00
SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..23.00 SHAREWARE STUDIO 3..25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT 2....24.00 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD.25.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE 2..29.00
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6044
To: ALL DEALERS Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: GREAT DEALER PRICING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ATTENTION CD-ROM DEALERS!
-------------------------
Starvector is pleased to announce our joint venture with The Pier Exchange
and Damar Enterprises, as distributors for their respective lines of high-
quality, superior shareware CD-ROM titles. We now have the following CD
titles available for resale, with EXCELLENT mix-n-match dealer pricing:
Pier 3 * Pier 2 * Pier 1 * CD OS/2Box * CD Powerbox 1.01 * CD Winbox
If you are interested in any of these titles, please give us a call!
Starvector Software * 509-457-2892 (voice) * 509-457-2966 (fax)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6045
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: CD-ROM BUNDLE SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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________________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS |
|________________________________________________________|
1. Night Owl 7.0 2. Night Owl 8.0 3. Southern Beauties
Night Owl 8.0 Night Owl 9.0 Digital Dreams
Night Owl 9.0 Night Owl 10 Amateur Models
------------- ------------ --------------
$59 $69 $85
4. Night Owl 9.0 5. Night Owl 10 6. Pier 2
Night Owl 10.0 Pier 3 Pier 3
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$55 $59 $59
7. Software Vault 1 8. Empire Clipart 9. Night Owl 10
Software Vault 2 Clipart Heaven Pier 3
Software Vault Gold Ency. of Clipart Software Vault Gold
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$57 $59 $59
10. CD Winbox 11. Giga Games 12. Mac Shareware
Windows 93 Game Arena Garbo DOS/Mac
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$44 $35 $35
13. Fantazia Fonts 14. OS/2Box 15. Shareware Online 1
Fontmaster 2 CD Powerbox Shareware Online 2
Too Many Typefonts CD Winbox So Much Shareware 3
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$49 $49 $69
PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 350+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6046
To: DON NELSON Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DN>MS> - DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -
DN>What quanity does one have to buy to qualify for dealer pricing?
10+
DN>Mix & Match?
Yup.
Later,
.\\ike
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VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6047
To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: info on CD's Refer: NONE
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SS> MS> We have them both in stock, at $14 and $20, respectively. Give a shout
SS> MS> if you're interested. Can ship same day.
SS>At last I got an reply :)).. Could you maby give a description on the VGA
SS>Spectrum disk, and how much for Air shipping here to the good ol' Republic
of
SS>SA?... Thanks..
CA167 VGA SPECTRUM 1 - A one-of-a-kind disc with sound software,
graphics, animation, clipart, demos, .GIF files, Soundblaster/Adlib
utilities, and great EGA/VGA games! DOS MM
Airmail insured would be $14. Airmail small packet (non-insured) would
be $6.
Later,
.\\ike
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VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6048
To: MEINDERT VAN DER VEER Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MVDV>I faxed an order. Was it received?
Indeed it was, and thanks. Still awaiting the OS/2Box's, or would you
rather I backorder them for you?
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6049
To: PHILIP POLSTRA Date: 10/11/93 12:59a
Subj: PRE-ORDER OS/2BOX! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PP> MS> We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
PP> MS> - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
PP> MS> _______________________________ _________________
PP> MS> | | | |
PP> MS> | Title: CD OS/2BOX | | Price: $29 |
PP> MS> |_______________________________| |_________________|
PP>Shipping this month? When I pre-ordered the disk I was told shipping the
fir
PP>week of this month which ends in two days. I've allready got all my users
PP>hyped on this CD, they'll linch me if I don't deliver. :(
Sorry Phil, that was the expected delivery date, but they've fallen a little
behind in production. Should be released VERY soon now. Check with Dave
Perkovich at Damar Enterprises for more info on E.T.A., as he is the
publisher.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6050
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/11/93 1:00a
Subj: Inside tip Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LN>several more distribs have announced they are getting away from the 'XXX'
LN>material--Another big tradeshow, just announced that adult CD's can not be
LN>displayed......our industry remains in a shake-up, and the consumer best
grab
LN>all they can, because these 'Hay' days are about dead.
You speak the truth, oh well-travelled one.
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6051
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/11/93 1:00a
Subj: Queer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>Listen to me you camel-sucking sand monkey:
Man, when are you going to come out of your shell and learn to express
your TRUE feelings?
.\\ike
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 6052
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 10:51a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
NIGHT OWL 10
39.00
647+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files
******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
October 1, 1993
SUPER CD 1................ 22.00 SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00 SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00 NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95 SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50 SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50 TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50 CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00 CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00 DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00 DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
Americas Premire.......... 18.75 Gigabyte Gold............ 36.50
Phoenix Version 3.0....... 19.50 Shareware Avalnche....... 39.00
Sharware Galore........... 37.50 Sharware Overloard....... 37.50
Shareware Tiger........... 39.00 World Vision............. 79.00
Window Master............. 39.00 Software Vault GOLD...... 35.00
************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles
ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00 BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00 PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00 HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
Beach Babes............... 39.00 Animation Fantasies 1.... 39.00
Animation Fantasies 2..... 39.00 Gay/Bi/Lesbians.......... 39.00
Giffy Girls Gold.......... 39.00 Hot Pix 4................ 39.00
Hot Pix 5................. 39.00 My Private Collection 1.. 29.00
My Private Collection 2... 39.00 PC PIX 1................. 39.00
PC PIX 2.................. 39.00 PC PIX 3................. 39.00
Porkware 1................ 39.00 Private Pictures......... 36.00
Stareware................. 34.00 Storm 1 ................. 28.00
Storm 2................... 39.00 Storm 3.................. 41.00
Wicked.................... 69.00
************************ CLIPART **********************************
Clip Art Galore........... 25.00 Clip Art Goliath......... 25.00
Corel ArtShow............. 79.00 Font Fun House........... 39.00
Lovely Ladies 2........... 39.00 Media Clips Business..... 29.00
Media Clips Island........ 29.00 Media Clips Jets......... 29.00
Media Clips Majestic...... 29.00 Media Clisp Money........ 29.00
Media Clips Wild.......... 29.00 Media Clips World........ 29.00
Mediasource.............. 289.00 Mediasource 2........... 289.00
Mediasource Historical... 289.00 Mother Earth 2........... 29.00
Quick Artline............ 219.00 SoMuch Screenware........ 35.00
Electronic Library of Art 69.50
*********************** BUSINESS & REFERENCE **********************
Atlas of US Presidents.... 29.00 Atlas Pack............... 89.00
Berlitz Think & Talk......149.00 Bibles & Religion........ 24.50
CD-ROM Dierctory......... 109.00 Cinimania............... 295.00
Colosal Cookbook.......... 24.00 Complete Bookshop........ 24.00
Comptons Encylopedia..... 159.00 Corel Draw 4.0.......... 489.00
Dictionaires & Languages.. 24.50 Food Analyst............. 49.50
Food Anylst Plus......... 149.00 Ham Radio v3.0.......... 149.00
Information USA.......... 119.00 KGB-CIA World Fact Book.. 39.00
Corel Draw 3.0........... 149.00 Monarch Notes............ 79.00
MS Office for Windows.... 589.00 Multimedia Audobons Birds 39.00
Multimedias Audons mamals 29.00 Multimedia World Fact book39.50
Murmurs of Earth.......... 49.00 Our Solar System......... 24.00
ProPhone 1993 7 cd set... 179.00 Publish It............... 69.00
Sound Sensations.......... 24.50 Space Adventure.......... 36.00
Mamals National Geograpic. 39.00 Techno Tools............. 24.50
The Bible Library......... 24.50 The Books list........... 49.50
The Family Doctor......... 39.00 Too many Type Fonts...... 24.50
Total Baseball............ 59.00 US Atlas with Automap.... 39.00
Encarta.................. 295.00 World Atlus CD-ROM....... 29.00
World Vista............... 63.00 Elecrtonic Home Library.. 59.00
Time Table of History..... 38.00 Toolworks Reference Library31.90
Mavis Beacon Teaches typing v2.0 39.00
Sports Illistraded Almanac 49.00
Street Atlus USA WINDOWS 92.50
Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia 56.90
Library of the Future 2nd Edition 159.00
1992 Time Magazine Compact Almanac 69.00
The Electronic Library ofArt 89.00
Groiler New Multimedia Encyclopedia 295.00
Dinasours & Multimedia Encyclopedia 89.00
Vital Signs The good health resource 83.00
Comptons Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows 299.00
************* GAMES, ROLE PLAYING **********
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 6053
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 10:51a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Continued from previous message)
Arthurs Teacher trouble 34.90 Bakers Dozen Game Pak for Windows 29.00
barney Bear Goes to Space 39.00 Battle Chess Enhanced 40.00
Conan 31.00 Deathstar Arcade Batlles 24.50 Future Wars 54.50 Guy Spy 39.00
Jones in the Fast Lane 29.00 Just Grandma and me 44.00 Kings Quest 5 39.00
Kings Quest 6 39.00 LOOM 29.00 Mixed Up Mother Goose 29.95
Murder Makes Strange Dead Fellows 45.00 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 29.00
Space Quest 4 29.95 Spaceship Warlock 79.95 Spirit Of Excaliber 79.00
Stellar 7 29.00
7th Gyest 59.00 The Advuentures of Willly Beamish 52.50 Chessmater 3000 29.00
Lost Treasures of Infocom 59.50 Lsot tresures of Infocom 2 44.95
The manhole 44.97 The Secret Of Momkey island 35.90 Ultima I-VI series 49,95
Where in the world is Carmen San Diego 29.00 Wing Commander plus Secret
Missions 1& 2 69.95 Wing Commander 2 69.00 Wrath of the Demon 37.50
-------------------- end of list ---------------------------
*All in stock and ready to ship.
* Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each additional.
* CA Residents add 7.75% Sales Tax
* SEND check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to:
SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
2434 EAST 32ND STREET,
NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
* QUESTIONS/ORDERS 619-479-8688 10:AM to 7:PM PST.
Sorry NO Credit Cards (Yet).
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6054
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/12/93 7:59p
Subj: CD-ROM DUPE CHART II Refer: 9501
Read: NO Private: No
-> SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2 PR2 = PIER 2
-> SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 PR3 = PIER 3
-> SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2 N09 = NIGHT OWL 9 N10 = NIGHT O
->
-> % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
-> ---------------------------------------------------
-> >> Note: Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.
->
-> PR2 PR3 N09 N10 SS2 SS3 SO2 SV2 SVG
-> +-----------------------------------------------------+
-> PR2| .00% .55% 19.7% 1.72% .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
-> |-----------------------------------------------------|
-> PR3| .55% .00% 10.2% 36.0% .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
-> |-----------------------------------------------------|
-> NO9|19.7% 10.2% .12% .08% 1.24% .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
-> |-----------------------------------------------------|
-> N10|1.72% 36.0% .08% .00% .31% .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
-> |-----------------------------------------------------|
-> SS2| .02% .00% 1.24% .31% .01% .12% .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
-> |-----------------------------------------------------|
-> SS3|7.30% 8.14% .10% .00% .12% .02% 13.4% .00% 10.2%|
-> |-----------------------------------------------------|
-> SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38% .00% 13.4% .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
-> |-----------------------------------------------------|
-> SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58% .00% 25.4% .01% 1.69%|
-> |-----------------------------------------------------|
-> SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69% .00%|
-> +-----------------------------------------------------+
Shareware Studio II is the least duplicated disc listed, with an
average dupe rate of 0.62%.... Shareware Studio III comes in 2nd
place with a dupe rate of only 4.36%.
tim
biased mathematician
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From: KEVIN KING Number: 6055
To: MARK CROSBIE Date: 10/10/93 2:30p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks Mark for your request for Resale93.zip. I just finished RESALE94.ZIP
which I'll mail to you. This will be a pre-registered version should you want
to post it on your BBS and make some income to help off set your costs of
running a BBS. Kevin King, SysOp "My Favorite BBS" 916-381-2851 a Business
support board and home of the "Reseller's Source Kit" formally the reseller's
quarterly.
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From: CHRISTINE UNDERWOOD Number: 6056
To: KEITH SATURN Date: 10/11/93 6:55a
Subj: Genealogy CDs Refer: NONE
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Thanks Keith. I appreciate the reply. An associate of mine is planning on
getting this cd so I'll get to borrow it from him. <g>
Chris
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 6057
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 1:30p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA 15317
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING. IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
Signed ______________________________
Your Signature
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From: JOEL JACOBS Number: 6058
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 7:03p
Subj: OS/2 2.1 CD Wanted Refer: NONE
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Anybody have OS/2 2.1 on CD they would like to sell?
My daytime phone number is (614)833-9696. Or Netmail.
Thanks
Joel
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6059
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 8:20p
Subj: for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Macromedia Action version 2.5 SE & Clipmedia 2.00 SE
Make your own multi-media presentations, includes manual.
Requires MPC cd-rom, soundblaster, mouse and Windows.
$25.00 leave reply.
Mike Harris
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6060
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 8:22p
Subj: address for Refer: NONE
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Can someone give me the address for Sexy CD software
the cd only has sexy cd software
miami fl. 33166
I need a p.o. box or street address.
Thanks in advance.
Mike Harris
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6061
To: ADRIAN VERGOT Date: 10/11/93 8:26p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?
> CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or
> Windows
> files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
> All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
> (600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
> formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
> transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
> ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
> - Confidentiality is assured
> - $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
> - additional copies only $50 each
If I wanted 10 copies of the same cd it would cost me $525.00?
Mike Harris
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6062
To: JOE RINEHART Date: 10/11/93 8:30p
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 sale Refer: NONE
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> New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM a 7.00
> New Machine CD Adult Sampler ROM a 7.00
> New Wave Hookers Vol. 1 a 39.00
> New Wave Hookers Vol. 2 a 39.00
Could you elebarate on what a demo cd is please and a little more description
of the hookers?
Mike Harris
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6063
To: MICHAEL GUIDRY Date: 10/11/93 8:50p
Subj: Cd's For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Will take the SWOTL if it's got the docs. Let me know how you want to
> do the transaction.
> Mike. My real fido address is 1:396/1.4
Mike,
I sold the disk already. Sorry but what I did was I went by the first message I
saw that wanted the disk and the guy bought it. The others are still avilable
thou.
Mike Harris
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From: RICHARD SKANDIS Number: 6064
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 7:35a
Subj: NEC 3X/4X CDROM DRVS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know the street price of the NEC 3x/4x drives that were announced
last week in Infoworld? The article gave $600 for the external version of the
3x drive and $900 for the 4x drives. The access time on these drives was 200ms.
Thanks for any info you may have. Rich
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From: BOB CENTERBAR Number: 6065
To: TED KIDD Date: 10/11/93 8:08a
Subj: CD's on a Novell Server Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-09-93 TED KIDD wrote to BOB CENTERBAR...
TK> BC> Couldn't get it to mount myself, but did map them off a terminal,
TK> BC> worksfine for the BBS. Wastold that they could be mounted with
TK> the
TK> BC> properdrivers from Novell.
TK>
TK> Yeah... but that costs a bunch! Novell version 3.12(?) is supposedly
TK> CD-Rom
TK> friendly..... still a pretty penny for the upgrade.
What version of Novell are you using? I'm sure the drivers can be had
as a stand-a-lone by connecting Novell. But its fairly easy to use
the MAP command and have the CD on one of the work stations. We have
two CD drives on one work station, the only problem is if the station
goes down then the server must be brought down in order to remap the
two drives.
Later...Bob
... OFFLINE 1.50 "MAYBE, and that's final!"
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From: HAROLD YARBROUGH Number: 6066
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 7:40p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For Sale: Premium MS-DOS - Volume #2.......................
Premium MS-WINDOWS - Volume #1...................
Shareware Studio II..............................
Monster Disc (2 disc set)........................
Windows 1993.....................................
CD Power Box.....................................
Nightowl 7.0.....................................
Nightowl 8.0.....................................
Pier 1...........................................
ALL cd's are BBS ready. Great for adding files to BBS.
$15.00 each or $100.00 for Set!
Contact Harold at (314) 255-1792
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From: LEWIS BULLARD Number: 6067
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 4:21p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Have a few items I need to get rid of. All items guaranteed against DOA.
Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250
Toshiba 42 meg MFM 3.5 hard drive with 5.25 mounting bracket
Shareware Extravaganza 4 cd's 25,000 programs
Sigcat 1992 software showcase, mostly DB stuff includes Wordperfect
5.1 manual, online bible among others.
Harvard Graphics for Windows, All manuals and letter to transfer reg
Logetech scanman 32 greyscale with paintshop
Kaypro II luggable computer with softcase, dual floppie, mono monitor
lots of cp/m software $75
AT&T business phone system, comkey, intercomm, speakerphone, 8 phones
with up to eight lines each $100
4 256x9 100ns simms
Professor Windows, learn windows at your own pace, box, dox and 5.25
only
Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, box, dox, reg, 5.25
Make offer on all items. Will consider trades on most. Am looking for
scsi controller with ext. ports, external scsi cases with cables,
Trantor parallel to scsi adapter, 14.4 ext. fax modem, reference cd's.
Lewis 405-357-5942
... Would she be happy with a Pet Rock instead?
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 6068
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 5:22a
Subj: Night Owl $29 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
N i g h t O w l 10.0
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From: PATRICK SHEN Number: 6069
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 6:18p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have following CD-ROMs for sale. All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.
7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set). Smooth full motion video. Best CD
ever made. -------------- $42.00
Software Toolworks CD Deluxe Pack. Includes ChessMaster 3000 MPC, Mavis
Beacon Teaches Typing MPC, U.S. Atlas MPC and World Atlas MPC. Each has
own complete documents. -------------- $55.00
Software Toolworks CD Game Pack II. 10 games on one CD. Each has its own
documents. -------------------- $25.00
LucasArts Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. Very good World War II Air
Combat Simulation game. I'll include a mission/utilities disk as a free
bonus. ------------------- $25.00
Wing Commander/Ultima VI. Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure. With all manuals and Registration card.
------------------ $27.00
Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC. Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game. Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
--------------------- $20.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles. The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time. ------------------ $15.00
American Business Phone Book 92 Edition. -------------- $20.00
SelectWare System. The Ultimate Software Demo System. ------ $9.00
Amateur Models Adult CD. ------------------ $35.00
Hot Pix Volume 4 Adult CD. ---------------- $20.00
Storm III Adult CD. --------------- $20.00
If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.
Patrick Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 Internet: pshen#simenv.com or
72072.3612@compuserve.com
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From: JOHN RICKER Number: 6070
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 10/11/93 3:59p
Subj: Buying Used CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GE|o| JR> |o| Busty Babes 1.3
GE|o| JR>What would ya like for this one ?
GE|o| $25
Ok, let me get back with ya on this, and do ya know if it is BBS ready ?
John
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From: JOHN RICKER Number: 6071
To: MARK GREENHAW Date: 10/11/93 4:17p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Review: Hacker Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MG|o| >Would it be possible for ya to tell me where i could find the above
|o| >mentioned CD ?
MG|o| Hacker Chronicles can be ordered from Crocodile Computers at (205)477-617
|o| a cost of $29.00 +S&H.
Thanks alot for the information... I'll give them a call...
John
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From: JOHN RICKER Number: 6072
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/11/93 4:18p
Subj: hacker chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC|o| We have the Hacker Chronicles in stock for $25.95 plus shipping. Call
|o| 615-339-0235 to order. No surcharges for credit card usage.
Thanks for the info Doug, let me look around and see what the price is
that I can get, and if your's is the best I will give ya a call...
john
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From: KELLY KIMBALL Number: 6073
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 8:37p
Subj: AutoCAD CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED> <WANTED>
Looking for a good AutoCAD/CAD Shareware/Public Domain CD Rom.
Hoping will contain LISP, 3D Drawings, Utilities, etc... Have heard of a
CD called ACAD Global Village CD, anyone know where to get that one???
Let me know where and how much $$$$...
Thanks,
Kelly.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6074
To: DAVE BAKKER Date: 10/12/93 2:10a
Subj: Re: Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris, just wondering when I can expect my disk, Mayo Clinic,
>> I talked to you on the phone almost two weeks ago (Sept 27). I
>> sent a Money order with my request. You said if I air mail it
>> to you, you would get it in two days and it would take 2 days
>> to send it.
We received your check on 10/4/93 and your order was shipped arimail on
10/5/93.
As I stated to you, it takes 7 - 10 days to get to you, sometimes faster
depending on how busy customes is. I would think you should have your order
any day now.
>> Just wondering where it is, as I'm starting to worry.
I wouldn't be concerned at this point, but if you don't get it by this
weekend, call us at 800-243-0517 and let us know, we do insure all packages
going out of here.
Yes, this 800 number does work in Canada.....
Chat with you soon...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6075
To: PHILIP MILLER Date: 10/12/93 2:10a
Subj: Re: Corel Draw 3.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>
>> Is there anyone who has just recently upgraded to
>> Corel Draw 4.0 and willing to part with their Corel
>> Draw 3.0 CDROM?
Have a used copy of it, will sell cheap !!
Call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to help you out.
Boris Osadciw
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From: CHRIS SLAICIUNAS Number: 6076
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 6:19p
Subj: CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Would anybody like to by some cd's for $7 apiece like Bobby Brown
Bobby, Nirvana, Singles, Nine Inch Nails, Public Enemy, Tool, Beastie
Boys. Let me know.
-EXTREME
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From: KEN NEIL Number: 6077
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 11:56a
Subj: Cd Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone out there selling CD rom disks to the public (Canadian Funds
Only) could you please send me your catalog's! There are a few of us
here looking for good deals, and hey, in todays economy Discounts Talk!
Att Ken Neil
2256 Haltyre Ct
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada, L4Y1X7
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER Number: 6078
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/11/93 9:38p
Subj: my order Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Howdy mike.... jsut wondering if you got my order off with no problems? I
ordered Peir 2&3.
(the name on the credit card was MIKE MACSWEEN to refreash your memory)
CJK
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6079
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 8:15p
Subj: Review of Super Smutware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SUPER SMUTWARE
==============
Many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing a copy of
the adult CD Super Smutware (SS) for review. Like all of my
previous reviews, this one is available for FREQing or downloading
from file area #22 of this BBS (see tagline). Guest downloads are
available by using the login ID of CD REVIEW. No password will be
required. The ZIPped file name for this review is S_SMUT.ZIP.
This review (all one post) contains four major sections: General -
Miscellaneous comments that didn't seem to belong in any other
section; Statistics - the quantitative, measurable characteristics
of the CD; Operations - a more qualitative analysis of the
"usability" aspects of the CD which tries to consider factors of
interest to both the sysop and the end-user; and Visual - a purely
qualitative opinion of the intrinsic qualities of the images
themselves. Note that section boundaries are not inviolate.
To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well. If
you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs. Accordingly, what
follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.
General
=======
SS is a "good news - bad news" adult CD. Keep that in mind as you
read through the review as you'll no doubt notice that the
"polarity" of my comments changes frequently. Outwardly, SS doesn't
offer much to cheer about. There are no jewel case inserts, no
"registration card", no installation or setup instructions, in short
nothing save a small sticker on the back of the jewel case allowing
that the product came from Canada. The "face" of the CD (this side
with the printing on it) goes a few steps further. Over an
asymmetrical five-pointed pinkish star are some letters proclaiming
the CD's name, words claiming "660 Mb", "NEVER SEEN!!!", and "BBS
READY", "Super VGA ONLY", and "1024X768". Now we're all guessing
that these words are referring to GIFs, but nowhere does it say so.
Then there's the curious phrase: "Adult Software 18 years or older".
At first reading, one is left wondering if that refers to the users,
the models in the scans, or the age of the "software" itself. As it
turns out, it probably means all three.
Lacking any other guidance, I fired up my favorite file handler and
discovered that the root directory, as well as a couple of
sub-directories, had some useful text files with some "get started"
information in them. SS's producers apparently assumed that anyone
buying a product of this ilk (CD-ROM) must know their way around DOS
at least well enough to replicate my actions and discover how to get
started. We'll see how this is done in Operations. Suffice it to say
that I prefer at least a modicum of "bootstrap" instructions.
Statistics
==========
Tabulation of SS's contents found 660.9 Mb of which 657.9 Mb were
GIFs. There were 1138 GIFs found for an average size of a whopping
578 Kb. Recall, the CD claims to have ALL 1024x768 scans, but even
so, this is a very healthy average size, and one that's not totally
deserved (see Visual). There are no 24-bit color scans nor any
"animation" files on the CD.
With respect to duplication, there were ZERO dups within the CD
itself as could be detected by either name or size inspection, nor
by a healthy length of viewing time. Comparison of SS's file names
with the GIF name data base did reveal 13 duplicated titles in spite
of the "NEVER SEEN" claims on the CD's face. Each of the 13 hits
did in fact prove out to be an EXACT duplicate, right down to the
BBS logo. Still, that's barely over 1% duplication so allegations of
re-hashing are hardly called for. The 13 hits were distributed as
follows:
Seedy 6-Pak 6 7th Heaven 5
BB/R1 0 BB/R3 0
Ecstasy 0 FAO-2 0
FAO-3 0 FAO-Gold 5
PCPIX-1 0 PCPIX-2 0
PCPIX-3 0 Visual Fan. 0
Pork-1 3 Storm-3 0
Operations - Sysop
==================
This CD does indeed have some text files that describe the
individual GIFs. These files are included in each directory and have
the same name as the directory they appear in. Their contents are
the "two-line" format of file listings. These same listing also
appear in the \TEXT directory under the file names DIR1, DIR2, etc.
Not being a sysop, I'm not sure what format this "two-line" style
represents, but it includes the file size and date as well. The CD
claims to be "BBS READY", but you might want to read the Visual
section before placing your order.
Operations - End User
=====================
As mentioned, there were no setup or install instructions with the
CD. The buyer is left to his/her own devices. In such circumstances
(and this wasn't the first), I always grab a file handler and poke
through the CD's contents looking for clues. That approach worked
here as well. The file "SUPERSMT.TXT" was found in the root
directory which, though brief, did point the way to the installation
and configuration of a copy of VPIC 6.0g which is included in it's
own directory. Further investigation revealed a additional "VIEWERS"
directory where several other graphic file viewers and manipulators
can be found.
However, if even that's a bit too much, if one already has a GIF
viewer configured for their system, a simple DOS TREE command will
list the 13 directories which can then be examined with said viewer.
This CD DOES NOT come with any sort of "front end", not even a
text-based one. However, it's worth noting that VPIC 6.0g has a
drive "scanning" feature which provides some elemental navigation
capabilities much in the manner ans style of CD-MENU.
The directories that have GIFs in them all have names that begin
with the letters "V2" (e.g. V22PED, V2CG, etc.). Personally, I find
this a bit curious. The face of the CD clearly says "Vol. II" and
that fits with "V2". However, it stands to reason that there'd have
to be a "Super Smutware Vol. I" out there somewhere for this to be
"Vol. II". Well, there isn't. Now before anyone goes and says: "What
they meant was that the CD called "SMUTWARE" is really Volume I
therefore this is Volume II", consider the following. Recall the
SUPERSMT.TXT file we spoke about? Well in there the producers (and I
use the plural liberally since the pronoun "I" is frequently used
therein), encourage us to "...watch for Smutware II and Super
Smutware II...". Now clearly, Gentle Reader, this point isn't as big
as a mole on a gnat's derriere. I bring it up ONLY to point out that
professional image suffers when even the smallest of things are
neglected. 'Nuff said.
Visual
======
Recall, I said that this was a "good news - bad news" CD-ROM. First,
the "good news". To begin, Corporate Graphics obviously owns an
excellent scanner and are expert at using it. I've seen VERY few CDs
whose images were as uniformly "tack sharp" scan after scan after
scan. It's also obvious that the scanner was actually set at a high
resolution. Too often I've seen scans that were claimed to be SVGA
when in fact they were originally much lower resolutions that had
only been opened and saved at a higher resolution. That is clearly
not the case with SS's scans. They're gorgeous!
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6080
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 8:15p
Subj: Review of Super Smutware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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>> Continued from previous message <<
Secondly, the photographs that were scanned were also obviously done
by professionals who really knew what they were doing. The
photography is excellent with few errors (like dual catch lights
[2PED_319] or awkward posing [2PED_329]) showing up in a few scans.
Excellent props (large fake fur in CG-1459), and imaginative
settings (photo studio in 2PED_302), beautiful models, etc. etc.
etc. all add up to a feast for the eyes. Scan 2PED_357 is one of
the best "fireplace" shots I've ever seen. In short, the
overwhelming majority of the scans, in and of themselves, are
stunning.
Now the "bad news". I am extremely doubtful that SS's scans
represent anything remotely resembling a "licensed collection". It
seems more likely that the original photo sources were various adult
magazines. There are "tell-tale" signs of this in several scans
such as CG_747 and CG_1001 where, for example, some text fragments
still show in the frame. Also, 2PED_254 is a scan of the adult
actress Kascha before her breast enlargement surgery (and that's
been a few years ago) and 2PED_369 is of her contemporary Victoria
Paris. It's very unlikely that the studios that hold the rights to
these ladies likenesses would permit them to be used in this way -
but not impossible. In all, these observances are typical of the
so-called "grassroots" scans which, according to recent posts in
this echo, should be approached very carefully by any sysop bent on
using them on a BBS. On the other hand, if "grassroots" scans are
becoming a thing of the past, at least this collection is not the
same old tired set that we've seen time after time.
Secondly, a word about image size and backgrounds is in order. While
I did find a FEW full-screen images on the CD, most were about 1/2
screen in size. That is, they were centered in the screen, portrait
orientation, and reached from top to bottom. There is generally
about a 2" margin on either side of the scan as measured on my 15"
FS monitor. While this size scan wouldn't quality as "small",
they're far from "full screen". In photography, it's common to place
a small photo, say and 8x10, in a larger frame, say 11x14. To take
up the extra space around the photo, a "mat" - a piece of material,
usually heavy paper stock, sometimes colored to "pick up" the colors
in the photo - makes up the difference between the size of the photo
and the size of the frame. On image CDs, "backgrounds" serve the
same purpose. It's not necessarily a bad practice. In fact, the
overall effect of the photo/scan can be enhanced by judicious use of
a complimentary mat/background.
While a goodly number of SS's scans had some sort of colored
background that didn't distract from the image, far too many did.
In fact, outside of the 150 or so scans in the two "2PED"
directories and backgroundless scans CG_285 through CG_432, most
scans had a rather garish, and sometimes downright annoying
background in them. The worst offenders of the "wrong background"
syndrome were the ones whose background looked as if a dozen or so
rolls of brightly colored foil wrapping paper had been laid
side-to-side, on the diagonal. Others had backgrounds that looked as
if a lot of swirl-colored bowling balls had been set side-by-side
"under" the scan. In this latter case, each "ball" had a dual catch
light reflection on it giving it an appearance rather like that of a
mouthless "happy face". These two types, and others just as bad,
were used extensively - much to my distress and distraction from
viewing the scans.
Personally, I prefer NO background - just the natural "balckness" of
the screen. If I can't have that, then I don't mind so much the
pastel backgrounds (no heavy patterns, please) that attempt to pick
up some color from within the scan. Alas, such was not the case with
many of SS's scans. They were both hideous AND annoying. It's also
certain that these backgrounds added unnecessary "bulk" to the image
sizes. If the producers had left the scans with just black (i.e.
none) backgrounds, they could've gotten more scans on the CD and
therefore given the CUSTOMERS more value for their money.
Finally, it should be noted that while the GREAT preponderance of
the scans would/could/should be called "T&A", there are a few scans
that qualify as "X" in anybody's book as well as a few that would be
"G" (no kidding). Having said that, it occurs to me that my "rating"
system is probably skewed from most others, so maybe stating it here
will help avoid confusion or disappointment:
G - Non-nudity you can see most anywhere including "thong"
bikinis and wet T-shirts.
R - Any nudity including full frontal, but no genital
touching.
Hard R - Genital touching by same/different sex but no other
visible sexual activity.
X - Any visible sexual activity between same/different sex
beyond touching.
Bottom lines for Super Smutware: If you're a sysop looking for an
adult CD for your callers, be careful and consider fully prior posts
on this echo on the topic of grassroots scans. I can't say for sure
whether this is a fully licensed collection or not, but my guess is,
it isn't.
If you're an end user and know your way around image CDs without the
aid of a no-brainer front end, this isn't a bad disc. The models are
gorgeous, the sets are great, the photos are excellent. However,
there's nothing here, subject-wise, you probably haven't seen
before. In fact SS in general is a LOT tamer than most of its kin.
If you're a collector and want to add to yuor grassroots collection
before availability goes down the tubes, you wouldn't be
disappointed - but remember my warning about the garish backgrounds.
... Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your taglines!
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6081
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/13/93 3:41p
Subj: Re: Disk Refer: 9534
Read: NO Private: No
-> We received your check on 10/4/93 and your order was shipped arimail
-> 10/5/93.
->
-> As I stated to you, it takes 7 - 10 days to get to you, sometimes fas
-> depending on how busy customes is. I would think you should have your
-> any day now.
DO NOT use this echo to conduct "one on one" business.
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6082
To: CHRIS SLAICIUNAS Date: 10/13/93 3:42p
Subj: CD'S Refer: 9536
Read: NO Private: No
-> Would anybody like to by some cd's for $7 apiece like Bobby Br
-> Bobby, Nirvana, Singles, Nine Inch Nails, Public Enemy, Tool, Beastie
-> Boys. Let me know.
Those are audio CDs... This is the CDROM_SALE echo.
tim
moderator
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6083
To: ALL Date: 10/11/93 11:01p
Subj: CD-ROM'S (NEW TITLES) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the following new cd-rom titles for sale.
1. 20th Century Video Almanac 25.00
2. Best of Microprobe 25.00
3. Chaos Fractals and Magic 30.00
4. Dinosaurs 30.00
5. Fractools 30.00
6. Fractunes 25.00
7. Gameware collection 25.00
8. Gardening 15.00
9. Guiness Disc of Records 1993 30.00
10.Legal Guide 15.00
11.Mad Dog Macree 40.00
12.Multimedia Audio Collection 30.00
13.Newsweek Interactive 25.00
14.Pier 3 30.00
15.Precision Mapping 79.00
16.Publishers Paradise 25.00
17.Reel Clips 30.00
18.Sleeping Beauty 20.00
19.Soundware Collection 25.00
20.Space Shuttle 25.00
21.Win Platinum 25.00
-------------------------------------------------
SHIPPING $5.00 FLAT FEE
SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDERS TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497
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From: GARETH LLOYD Number: 6084
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 8:06p
Subj: Looking for Creative Labs CD16 Upgrade Kit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi All,
I will be staying in Washington and Denver, Colorado during Christmas on
holiday, and I was wondering if anybody in either of these two regions could
give me some prices and shop names + addresses were I can buy the Creative Labs
CD16 Upgrade Kit and/or the Night Owl 10 Shareware CD (Or 11 if it is out yet),
plus any other *GOOD* shareware CD's there.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
- Gareth
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6085
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 1:32a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
X#&]%%+fN ! )19AI
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00
ABOUT COWS...............................30.00
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN.....................15.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00
ANECDOTES VOL.1..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00
ANIMALS..................................25.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................15.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT.......................10.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................15.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................30.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................15.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00
FONT MASTER..............................10.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00
FRESH ARTE...............................30.00
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6086
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 1:33a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
X#&]%%+fN ! )19AI
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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GAME ARENA...............................10.00
GAME MASTER..............................20.00
GAME PACK II.............................30.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00
GIFS GALORE..............................20.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00
HAM RADIO................................15.00
HAMCALL..................................40.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00
JETS & PROPS.............................30.00
JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00
KINGS QUEST V............................20.00
KLOTSKI..................................25.00
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00
LOOM.....................................20.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00
MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00
MPC WIZARD...............................20.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00
PENTAMINOES..............................28.00
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6087
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 1:34a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................20.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................30.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................30.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................30.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........35.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................30.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................20.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................30.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................25.00
Q & A....................................50.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................20.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................30.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................20.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............30.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................30.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............30.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........30.00
SELECTWARE...............................10.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................20.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............30.00
SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................15.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................25.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................25.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............20.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................20.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................30.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................15.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................15.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................15.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................20.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................30.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................20.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................30.00
STELLER 7................................20.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................15.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................95.00
TAO OF COW...............................30.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................15.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........20.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................30.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...25.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................12.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................20.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................25.00
U.S. CIVICS..............................30.00
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To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 1:34a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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U.S. HISTORY.............................35.00
U.S. PRESIDENTS..........................30.00
U.S./WORLD ATLAS.........................22.00
U.S.A. STATE FACTBOOK,THE................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:CIVIL WAR....................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:DESERT STORM.................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:KOREA........................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:VIETNAM......................30.00
U.S.A. WARS:WORLD WAR II.................30.00
VGA SPECTRUM.............................10.00
VGA SPECTRUM 2...........................20.00
VISIONS OF SATURN........................30.00
WHERE IS CARMEN SAN DIEGO................30.00
WILD PLACES..............................20.00
WINDOWARE................................15.00
WINDOWS MASTER...........................20.00
WING COMMANDER / ULTIMA VI...............25.00
WORLD ATLAS M/M..........................20.00
WORLD OF FLIGHT..........................35.00
WORLD OF TRAINS..........................35.00
WORLD TRAVELER...........................15.00
WORLD VIEW...............................20.00
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*** NEW TITLES *** NEW TITLES *** NEW TITLES ***
20TH CENTURY VIDEO ALMANAC...............25.00
BEST OF MICROPROSE.......................25.00
CHAOS FRACTALS AND MAGIC.................30.00
DINOSAURS................................30.00
FRACTOOLS................................30.00
FRACTUNES................................30.00
GAMEWARE COLLECTION......................25.00
GARDENING................................15.00
GUINESS DISC OF RECORDS 1993.............30.00
LEGAL GUIDE..............................15.00
MAD DOG MACREE...........................40.00
MULTIMEDIA AUDIO COLLECTION..............30.00
NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE.....................25.00
PIER 3...................................30.00
PRECISION MAPPING........................79.00
PUBLISHERS PARADISE......................25.00
REEL CLIPS...............................30.00
SLEEPING BEAUTY..........................20.00
SOUNDWARE COLLECTION.....................25.00
SPACE SHUTTLE............................25.00
WIN PLATINUM.............................25.00
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6089
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 1:35a
Subj: CD-ROM ORDER FORM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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SIGNATURE REQUIRED FOR ADULT CD-ROM'S ONLY (21 OR OLDER)
SEND ALL ORDERS TO: JANE GREENO
2508 AVENIDA REGULO
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From: MIKE DEMSKI Number: 6090
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 2:53a
Subj: Programmer's CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a computer programmer's CD (Especially C/C++ languages). Anyone
out there know of one full of programmer's goodies? Thanks in advance.
Mike
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From: CHET HART Number: 6091
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 10/11/93 6:14p
Subj: CD-ROM for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm sorry, but the "Legends of Porn 2" disk has been traded. Maybe next time.
73, Chet
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6092
To: ALL Date: 10/08/93 8:45p
Subj: gettin' in step Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
One of FidoNet's RCs has voiced concern regarding the commercial traffic
that flows thru this echo... And he's right. This message will explain
the problem so that it won't happen in the future.
To the letter of FidoNet's policy, commercial advertising in an echo
is prohibited. The reality is that FidoNet *tolerates* commercial
traffic as long as it's done in moderation and meets the echo's
intent. There's a point where messages exit the toleration zone.
The reason commercial advertising isn't officially allowed is a good
one: The amatuers who operate (and pay for) this network shouldn't have
to absorb the costs of putting money into someone else's pocket. And
that's fair enough.
We've ventured outside of the toleration zone. Some vendors are
using this echo to conduct "one on one" business with their
customers - posts that don't "benefit everyone". These type messages
will no longer be tolerated.
Example: FS>> I just got the XYZ disc. I love it
FS>> and think it's great. Thanks for
FS>> being born.
Hello, Fred... I'm glad we could be of service
to you. Call me anytime if you need any more
CDs. We love to make people happy and sell
them CDs. Call me anytime and we'll be happy
to make you happy again. Thank you. Bend over.
Thanks,
Joe Vendor
Or something like that <seg>... ANYHOW, let's put a stop to "one on one"
type messages. If you have any comments, I can be reached at the
numbers below.
tim
moderator
Voice : 404-621-9210
FAX : 404-621-9122
BBS : 404-491-1405
FIDO : 1:133/515
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6093
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/09/93 2:27p
Subj: Inside tip Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Don't you love this echo for it's ability to get information out to a
-> range of users and publishers etc--Well, for all the closet publisher
And we appreciate your input :)
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6094
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/09/93 2:46p
Subj: Queer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hello Ismail!
Dave, that's too much... Post one more message like that & you're out of
here. EOT.
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6095
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 10/09/93 2:48p
Subj: EOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DO NOT continue this thread with DR.
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6096
To: MARC LIMMANY Date: 10/11/93 6:08a
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Mike...
-> I was wondering if you received my order. I think I sent if off on
-> 10/2/93. It's been a while, and I was wondering where the cds where.
->
-> Thanks.
->
-> Marc Limmany
-> The Tech Source
-> 1:301/29
Marc, please don't post "one on one" messages like this.
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6097
To: FRANK GRESH Date: 10/11/93 6:14a
Subj: Thanks Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Mike, just got the order today for those two disks that I asked for,
-> thanks, they are great, and once again, superb service, didn't even h
-> to pick up the phone !!!!!! Did you get my message about the Street
-> Atlas 2 ???? Thanks again for the quick service.
Foul!
Please don't post "one on one" type messages...
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6098
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/11/93 6:16a
Subj: audio cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Is it okay to advertise audio cd's here? I haven't seen the rules as
No. There's already an echo for that purpose... It's called CD_ECHO.
tim
moderator
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 6099
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 10/11/93 9:21p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim,
Does Night Owl make a windows only shareware CD?? If so, how much?
Ron
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * Red ribbons do nothing to help AIDS patients.
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From: JACK HUDDLE Number: 6100
To: BOB ROSOL Date: 10/11/93 8:21p
Subj: DESIGNER 4.0 on CD- CHEAP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--- BR>LATEST Micrografx DESIGNER 4.0
BR>FULL version - NOT an upgrade!
BR>Complete: All disks
BR> All Documentation
BR> Photo Magic retouching pkg (lists for $150!).
BR> Adobe Type Manager 2.5
BR> CD ROM w/ program, fonts, clipart
BR> NO Reg card
BR>> BEST OFFER OVER $100 <
BR>412-761-9090 fax: 412-766-3299
Bob! I'll Take it for that if you include shipping? you have my address
here in pickerington, Ohio. If Okay let me know and the check is on the
way.....Jack By the way I got the Corel3 Artshow Package.....
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From: JAMES BROWN Number: 6101
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/11/93 9:59a
Subj: PIER 3 FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ALSO HAVE FREE CD-ROM CATALOG WITH OVER 200 TITLES.
Do you have any CD's with large database/dbase shareware selections?
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From: GARY KIMBRELL Number: 6102
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/11/93 1:31p
Subj: CD-ROM'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> FREE CD-ROM CATALOG---OVER 200 TITLES
> FREE SHIPPING
> WHOLESALE PRICES
> LEAVE MESSAGE OR WRITE TO:
> STEVE GREENO
> 2239 E. BROADWAY
> TUCSON AZ. 85719
> FAX # 1-602-292-0497
Send a Catalog to:
Bodega Bay BBS
% Gary Kimbrell
P.O. Box 5023
Fort McClellan, Alabama
36205
Gary
NEC3657
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From: GARY KIMBRELL Number: 6103
To: JOE RINEHART Date: 10/11/93 1:36p
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> CD-ROM DISC'S (USED):
> Hot Pix 3 $35.00 or B/O
> Storm II $35.00 or B/O
> Asian Ladies $35.00 or B/O
> No reasonable offers refused!
Offer: $15.00 each + S&H/COD!
Gary
NEC3657
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From: BILL PEARSON Number: 6104
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/11/93 9:59a
Subj: Night Owl's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Doug, can you give me a package price for Nightowl 8, 9 & 10?
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From: BILL PEARSON Number: 6105
To: CHET HART Date: 10/11/93 10:09a
Subj: CD-ROM for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CH> I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM "Legends of Porn
Chet I have a few I'd be willing to trade
1) The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia - Groliers
Nice Multimedia Encyclopedia w/ great sound and animation 91-92
2) The New Groiler Electronic Encyclopedia - 1991
Not true multimedia, a couple sound files, good search, nice
Basic ROM encyclopedia.
Will add with the New Groiler
1) Software Toolworks Reference Library
OR
2) Microsoft Bookshelf
(neither multimedia)
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From: BILL PEARSON Number: 6106
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/11/93 10:18a
Subj: CLIPART CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ron, I can't reccomend a good one but I can reccomend a cheap one.
Chestnuts " Clipart Goliath". It can be bought for 10 - 12 $$. I have a
copy and it carries 13,000 pics in pcx and tiff format. It's not great
but for 10 bucks it was more than worth it.
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From: BILL PEARSON Number: 6107
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 10/11/93 10:28a
Subj: Night Owl $29 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP> N i g h t O w l 10.0
Please give me a combo price on NO 8,9 & 10.
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From: ANDREW SCHNEIDER Number: 6108
To: MARK CLARDY Date: 10/11/93 3:41p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would also like to receive your catalog. You can mail it to:
Andrew Schneider
766 Sherman Road
Chillicothe, OH 45601
Thanks.
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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI Number: 6109
To: ALL Date: 09/29/93 9:57p
Subj: Borland Database Software Blowout!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Only a few complete kits left:
Factory Fresh, Unopened, Unregistered, Unused, Brand New.
The number 1 database programs from Borland:
dBase IV Version 2.0 for DOS Retail 799, Mail Order 399, Me 159
Paradox for Windows 3.x Retail 399, Mail Order 139, Me 79
Increase your career potential and learn these professional packages!
Voice orders only: 716-652-3913 message, Sysops can Netmail below address.
Trades for Current Hardware, including SCSI devices considered.
7 dollars shipping UPS Ground. Check or Money Orders, no CODs.
*** Bonus: LINKS The Challenge of Golf, with any dBase IV order ***
*** Trivial Pursuit Daily Planner, with any Paradox order ***
WHILE THEY LAST WHILE THEY LAST WHILE THEY LAST WHILE THEY LAST WHILE THEY
Sysop for Sale conference: additional 10% discount- netmail only!
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON Number: 6110
To: RANDY NEUNER Date: 10/12/93 7:14p
Subj: Shareware Online 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Shareware Online 2.
> Info such as total mb, file dates, what is the going price,
> etc.
> Has any used this disc or Shareware Online 1?
Have them both - got them by total accident.
Using #2 on my BBS right now. Took a while to set up - it doesn't have the
nice, automatic set-up that Cream of the Crop has. ( I was running that
before.)
All the files seem to be true 1993. It's 600 megs +, and over 4500 files. Has
a directory of BBS ANSI screens, and two of BBS doors and related files.
It has an unusual assortment of files on it - not the usual files that I've
seen on the boards here in upstate NY - scout tracking programs, Mel Odious
goes 6 string searching, etc. Few educational or hobby files, but a nice game
assortment. It's going for $30, and I think that's a tad pricey. But that's
just my humble opinion, cause I got Cream of the Crop for $19 - an excellent
price for a brand-new shareware CD.
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: From the Heart of Byron, NY (1:2613/482)
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 6111
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/13/93 12:04a
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Doug,
I havn't seen an answer to this yet, so I thought I'd post it again.
Doug,
> I have checked with the US Postal Service and they show your order as
> being received on September 28, 1993 at 2 P.M. which is 4 days from the
> day it was sent inclusive. Now, why did you send me another nasty
> message?
That wasn't a nasty message and the reason it was sent
was because my order had not arrived. Let's get some FACTS
straight here Doug:-
1) My order was placed on 17th August and read, presumably by you,
on the 19th of august.
2) On the 6th of september you published a new price list.
3) My order was not dealt with until 25th of September.
As an aside to this, I think you will find that YOU are
REQUIRED, under laws dealing with mail order, to inform the
customer if the order cannot be filled within 30 days, when the new
shipping date will be and offer cancellation of order. This did NOT
happen. As to your point about "reducing your prices", I doubt
that it would have been possible to charge the original price
(legally) so you are offering me nothing but air.
4) As the order was late, you shipped it out, PARTIALLY filled,
EXPRESS MAIL.
Now the express mail is a nice idea, except that it gets
me involved with customs and that you ALLOWED me, the customer, to
pay $25,- for the privilege.
Shipping out the customers order, because of YOUR error,
at THE CUSTOMER's ADDITIONAL expense is an intolorable business
practice. Do you see NOW why I am more than slightly annoyed? Do
you believe NOW that it's justified? If not, then feel free to
delay other people's order and then stick them with a $25,-
shipping fee and see how long you stay in business.
Cheers,
P.S. I notice that the 5th CD, which was ordered, was advertised
in your price list published on 6th of September AND in the last
price list published, but still hasn't been shipped.
--- GEcho 1.01+
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From: JASON TAYNOR Number: 6112
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 11:33a
Subj: CD's for trade.... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Have the following CD's for trade--
1. 2 copies of 7th Guest, not OEM version, has the video.
2. Lotus 123 Multimedia.
3. One Compton's Encyclopedia.
4. Macro Mind Action ver 1.01.
5. Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.
Would like to trade for some nice adult CD's and a couple of bucks, except for
Compton's and Lotus, which I expect more for. Will take cash offers, but
please, no more shareware (shovelware) disks.....
Thanks.
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From: TOM HUNT Number: 6113
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 11:19a
Subj: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for the Hot Pix Vol 1 made by the Windy City folks
does anyone have a copy they would like to sell..looking for the best price
leave number so I can get in touch
thanks
*FSED91h*
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From: BRAD PAYNTER Number: 6114
To: EDDIE PHILLIPS Date: 10/11/93 4:59p
Subj: Re: bbabes for sale or t Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-= On 10-08-93, Eddie said to Brad =-
EP> -=> Quoting Brad Paynter to All <=-
EP> BP> Hi there-
EP> BP> I've got a copy of Busty Babes, not to sure whether it's volume
EP> BP> one or not, but since there is no volume number on it, I have to
EP> BP> assume it is. I'd like to trade it for a good map disk or a
EP> BP> shareware disk or two. Of course I'll take dead presidents if
EP> BP> that's all you've got. Leave a note here and I'll get back to
EP>you.
EP>I have the dead presidents if you want it.
Hi Eddie -
Great! Fifty bucks or there abouts and it's yours. The disk does say
volume 1 on it.
Peace
Brad
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From: CHRIS BOURNE Number: 6115
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/12/93 1:26a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SEND FOR YOUR FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
Chris Bourne
1526 Ramblewood Ct.
Adrian, MI 49221
Thanks...
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From: TED KIDD Number: 6116
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/12/93 10:41a
Subj: CD's on a Novell Servere Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC> You need one of the software packages like SCSI Express.
Do you carry this item?
And, how much is it (I bet it is outragous!?)
Thanks for the info...
Ted
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 6117
To: RICHARD SKANDIS Date: 10/13/93 1:12a
Subj: NEC 3X/4X CDROM DRVS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> Does anyone know the street price of the NEC 3x/4x drives that were
RS> announced last week in Infoworld? The article gave $600 for the
RS> external version of the 3x drive and $900 for the 4x drives. The
RS> access time onthese drives was 200ms. Thanks for any info you may
RS> have. Rich
I will be able to sell the 3XE at $595 when I get them in stock towards the end
of the month. If you are interested, call JET Computer Services @713/265-1010
or fax @713/980-9435.
They sound like great drives! The transfer rate is 450 Kb/sec, the access time
is 195 ms and the Burst Transfer Rate is 4.0 Mb/sec (sync). The cache is 256
Kb and the drive is Kodak Multisession Photo CD, MPC Level 2 and Quicktime
compatible. There is a 2 year limited warranty. It will also attach to the
Enhanced Parallel to SCSI (epp) interface, eliminating the need for an
interface card inside the PC.
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From: LEWIS BULLARD Number: 6118
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 3:57p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Have a few items I need to get rid of. All items guaranteed against DOA.
Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250
Toshiba 42 meg MFM 3.5 hard drive with 5.25 mounting bracket
Shareware Extravaganza 4 cd's 25,000 programs
Sigcat 1992 software showcase, mostly DB stuff includes Wordperfect
5.1 manual, online bible among others.
Harvard Graphics for Windows, All manuals and letter to transfer reg
Logetech scanman 32 greyscale with paintshop
Kaypro II luggable computer with softcase, dual floppie, mono monitor
lots of cp/m software $75
AT&T business phone system, comkey, intercomm, speakerphone, 8 phones
with up to eight lines each $100
4 256x9 100ns simms
Professor Windows, learn windows at your own pace, box, dox and 5.25
only
Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, box, dox, reg, 5.25
Make offer on all items. Will consider trades on most. Am looking for
scsi controller with ext. ports, external scsi cases with cables,
Trantor parallel to scsi adapter, 14.4 ext. fax modem, reference cd's.
Lewis 405-357-5942
... Would she be happy with a Pet Rock instead?
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From: PAT RILEY Number: 6119
To: MARK SMITH Date: 10/07/93 6:17a
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->1:116/109
MS**To all:
** I'm starting a new business and I am interested in selling CD softw
**as part of my services. Any vendors interested please send me information
**prices or where I can send for this information. Also, I would like to kno
**what kind of CD software has been the most popular lately.
Mark;
Send me an address and I will get the latest dealer price list out.
* QMPro 1.51 * Money is the root of all evil, and man needs roots.
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 6120
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 7:57p
Subj: 4 CD-Rom Drives 4-Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For Sale
Four (4) Hitachi CD-Rom drives, model 3500. These are the same ones Terry
Blount sells here (I actually bought them from him about 3 months ago).
They come with a controller card that will handle all four drives. Average
access is around 600ms and 150 sustained transfer rate. These are great
for a BBS, I know they've been on mine the last three months. If
interested, please call 808-624-1293 or leave a message here. Thanks.
... Ever stop to think... and forget to start again?
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From: MARCIAL MORENO Number: 6121
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 6:38p
Subj: Nightowl 10 is here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-ROM DISC's
Nightowl 10 ................... $34.50ea
Software Vault Vol 2........... $21.00ea
Phoenix Vol 4 ................. $24.00ea
Shareware Studio III .......... $30.00ea
SoundWav I .................... $27.00ea
Super Smutware Vol 2 .......... $27.00ea
Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $26.00ea
Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $26.00ea
******* All prices include shipping and handling in the USA ********
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADD 8.25% TAX
Check or Money orders to:
Mega-ROM SoftWare
13724 Saranac Dr.
Whittier, CA 90605-4229
(310) 941-8074
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From: BRIAN ELFERT Number: 6122
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/12/93 6:09p
Subj: CD's on a Novell Servere Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> TK> Does anyone know how to mount CD-Rom drives on a
-> TK> Novell file server (using Novell Version 3.11).
-> TK> Please list any available info you may have (products and prices
-> TK> Thanks
->
-> You need one of the software packages like SCSI Express.
Upgrading to Novell 3.12 would also work.
Brian
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From: MICHIAL THOMPSON Number: 6123
To: BILL MILLER Date: 10/13/93 8:58a
Subj: CD Rom For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BILL MILLER wrote in a message to MICHIAL THOMPSON:
BM> I'll give you $125 and pay shipping. Do we have a deal?
BM> Write me via this net.
BM> Bill Miller
Sorry it took me so long to get back to you, I went on a bus. trip.
I want to appoligize, I have sold the cd-rom drive.
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From: ROB O'DELL Number: 6124
To: JOHN LOVING Date: 10/12/93 6:58p
Subj: Nec Portable Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JL> Rob, How about a phone number so we can talk turkey. I might
JL> be interested
313-289-2819... $99.00 firm. 30 day warranty.
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From: ROB O'DELL Number: 6125
To: PO-I LI Date: 10/12/93 7:00p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PL> Hi, this is po-i Li. Your price seems nice. How about the
PL> access time and tranfer rate of your cd-rom drive? My SCSiI
PL> card is Adaptec AHA-1520, is that can fit your cd-rom drive?
PL> Thanks for clarification.
500ms spec but 400ms average. 150k transfer rate. Will work with any Adaptec
card.
$99.00 firm, 30 day warranty.
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From: ANISH ACHARYA Number: 6126
To: CHRIS SLAICIUNAS Date: 10/12/93 7:30p
Subj: CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Lemme know what RAP you have ....
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From: SYLVAIN DESCHAMPS Number: 6127
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/12/93 5:19p
Subj: CD-ROM'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
OK. My name is Sylvain Deschamps and I'm a reseller. If you can, please send
me your catalog AS SOON as possible since I don't have a CD-ROM supplier and a
LOT of users on my bulletin board want to buy CD's.
CD Info
Attn: Sylvain Deschamps
129 Cardinal
Longueuil, Qc, Canada
J4L 4S8
Thank's
Sylvain
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From: SYLVAIN DESCHAMPS Number: 6128
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 10/12/93 5:22p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm a reseller and would like to receive one of your catalog. PLEASE include
the fee for delivery in Canada. If you can please include a example like:
Night Owl's v10 -> 39$ + 5$ shipping in Canada via xxx + 2$ taxes... Anyway!
Waiting for your news! Thank's. Anyways, if you can please post me a message
on how it will work if I order the Night Owl's v10. (shipping, sales tax,
etc... Visa? MasterCard?)
Thank's.
Sylvain
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From: GREG STERLING Number: 6129
To: ALL Date: 10/12/93 10:36p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
INTERESTED IN BUYING OR TRADING FOR BUSTY BABES 1 CD. LET ME KNOW IF YOU'D
LIKE TO MAKE A DEAL. (I HAVE A LOT OF BASEBALL AND HOCKEY CARDS IF
INTERESTED.)
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6130
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/13/93 8:43p
Subj: NEW CDROM arrivals at PCJ Refer: NONE
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Doug,
Do you have the complete address for Sexy Cd Software?
I need it if you do, thanks.
Mike Harris
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6131
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 10/13/93 7:28a
Subj: Re: FREQable CD Reviews Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Arnie, you're welcome to freq and and load on your BBS as far as I'm
concerned. The Hard Disc Cafe is not *MY* BBS - it belongs to Dan Guillory
here in Houston. I don't "sysop" any board - just a user of them (:>
Your idea of putting the reviews up on several boards around the country so
that non-freq'ers don't have to pay toll charges is a good one; perhaps other
sysops will/have already thought of/done that for their users.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6132
To: ARNIE GROSS Date: 10/13/93 7:34p
Subj: Re: FREQable CD Reviews Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Super Smutware will be/is #11. Total Fantasy will be #12. High Volume Nudes
will be #13. All should be up here after this weekend.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6133
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 9:11p
Subj: Review of Total Fantasy Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TOTAL FANTASY
=============
Many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector in Yakima, WA for
providing a copy of the adult CD Total Fantasy (TF) for review.
Like all of my previous reviews, this one is available for FREQing
(Node ID: 1:106/30) or downloading (713-589-2690 to 14.4) from file
area #22 of the Hard Disc Cafe BBS in Houston, TX . Other boards
may carry them as well - ask your sysop. Guest downloads from The
Hard Disc Cafe are available by using the login ID of CD REVIEW. No
password will be required. The ZIPped file name for this review is
T_FANTSY.ZIP.
This review contains four major sections: General - Miscellaneous
comments that didn't seem to belong in any other section; Statistics
- more quantitative, measurable characteristics of the CD;
Operations - a more qualitative analysis of the "usability" aspects
of the CD which tries to consider factors of interest to both the
sysop and the end-user; and Visual - a purely qualitative opinion of
the intrinsic qualities of the images themselves. Note that section
boundaries are not inviolate.
To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well. If
you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs. Accordingly, what
follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.
General
=======
This CD will make you see red! Quite literally. The back portion of
the jewel case is red, the front cover insert is red, the face of
the CD itself is red, and the contents will surely turn you red
either from blushing (yeah, right!) or (more likely) from having
paid good money for a mediocre product.
The front cover touts "Total Fantasy disc 1" (sic) as a product of
Denmark apparently produced by an outfit calling itself "STC CDROM".
Frankly, I expected more from a company in a country that has given
the world so many beautiful people and ideas, not to mention Victor
Borge. The cover goes on to advertise "Over 3750 Gifs!!" - I counted
3752 and "Over 220 Animations!!" - I counted 227. The back of the
insert has some installation and use instructions which I'll cover
later in Operations. However, other than the somewhat obtuse
statement "This disc contains Fantasy Pictures and Animations" on
the face of the CD, there's no "adult material" warning anywhere to
be found. There is no rear jewel case insert. Compared to some of
the more professionally produced artwork (e.g. Busty Babes, Ecstasy,
Southern Beauties, etc.), TF's "artwork" leaves a lot to be desired.
Statistics
==========
TF is a very "full" CD (full of what we'll talk more about later).
As said, I counted 3752 GIFs, 227 ZIPped animation files, and 19
Targa (TGA) files which were also ZIPped. Include the now usual
\UTILS and \VIEWERS, add a few \GAMES, and TF gobbles up a whopping
620 Mb of CD-ROM real estate.
I found NO duplicated file names on TF. That doesn't necessarily
mean that there are no duplicated images - but it's unlikely that
many exist. However, with such a large number of images, it's
practically impossible (at least for me) to completely verify this
computer-derived statistic.
Comparison of TF's file names with my "grassroots" GIF name data
base showed 2160 hits. The distribution of hits was as follows:
Seedy 6-Pak 1413 7th Heaven 39
BB1/R1 182 BB1/R3 197
Ecstasy 737 FAO-2 283
FAO-3 301 FAO-Gold 213
PCPIX-1 264 PCPIX-2 77
PCPIX-3 2 Visual Fan. 271
Pork-1 114 Storm-3 257
That comparison left 1592 potentially "new" files. Even if this
number stands up (it doesn't - see Visual), that still ciphers out
to a 58% re-hash rate - intolerable for a new CD in today's era of
licensed collections.
Operations - Sysop
==================
There are both FILES.BBS and FILES.BB1 files in each of the
directories save \UTILS and \VIEWERS. The .BBS files are in the true
format; the .BB1 files include a (640X480X256) entry between the
file name and the description. How BBS ready this makes it, sysops
can judge. Ready or not, it's worth your while to read on before
deciding to add this one to your downloadable stockpile.
Operations - End User
=====================
Of all considered aspects of TF, installation and operation emerge
as its strongest points. The back of the front cover has a rather
complete and accurate set of installation and use requirements and
instructions. If followed, a no-brainer task, the result will likely
be a usable system with a text-based menu-style front end. The GIF
viewer will be a version of VPIC (chosen from three options at
installation); the TGA viewer can be VPIC or TGVIEW included on the
CD. There wasn't a VESA driver offered for VPIC during installation,
but the "S3" selection worked well enough with my '805 board.
Interestingly, the installation process asked separately about my
video's ability to display 800x600x256 GIFs.
The "S3" driver of version 6.0 of VPIC was able to display the
unZIPped TGA files OK; the optional TGVIEW program wasn't. When I
selected it, there were no configuration questions asked (e.g. what
chip). Perhaps it doesn't "do" S3. When any of the ZIPped TGA files
were selected, I was summarily taken back to the "menu" immediately
after the unZIPping process. Accordingly, I can't provide a review
of TGVIEW.
The animation viewers were automatically installed and there was
supported menu access to them as well. All the animated files were
ZIPped as well so viewing them required waiting for the unZIP
process to finish before viewing. I tried a few of each type (FLI,
GL, and DL) and all were displayed without problems, albeit not
worth even the relatively short wait (see Visual). All in all,
installation dumped 91 files on my HDD grabbing 638 Kb in the
process. A lot of these were unnecessary VPIC configuration files
that were left behind.
The front end, called "CD MENU MASTER" (I'd really *hate* to see "CD
MENU NOVICE"), isn't as complete as CDMENU from the Ecstasy CD or
ROM_MENU from Southern Beauties. It's barely functional: no mouse
support, no PgUp/PgDn, no End, tho' Home does take one to the top of
the menu (rooty-toot-toot). To use CD MENU MASTER, one "arrows" the
cursor up and down to highlight a directory. Having done that, one
can press Enter or the right arrow key and be taken to the file
listing for that directory. More up/down arrow movement highlights
the desired file, Enter displays it, Enter (or Esc) returns to the
file list, and the left arrow key (or Esc) returns to the directory
listing. Th-Th-Th-That's all folks! (Don't bother pressing "H" for
"help".)
Wait! I almost forgot - there is a "slide mode" - if you can all it
that. When "on", this feature automatically moves the cursor down
one file name on return from viewing (gollygeewhiz). One has only to
repeatedly press Enter to "slide" through all the files in the
current directory. On second thought, this "feature" *is* best
forgotten.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6134
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 9:11p
Subj: Review of Total Fantasy Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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Recalling that I said earlier that operations was TF's strongest
point, you can imagine what you're in for next if you keep reading.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
Visual
======
As Yogi Berra is supposed to have said, "It's deja vu all over
again." When viewing TF's GIFs, one is reminded of the STTNG episode
where the Enterprise is caught in some sort of time warp and is
forced to live the same "loop" of time over and over and over again.
With respect to the animation files, they're all your old favorites.
If these things were on film they'ed be worn through by now. Having
recognized the titles, I was almost tempted NOT to try the viewers,
but I wanted to see how well the MENU MASTER handled them. (It did the
job quite nicely.)
As for the non-hit GIFs, well, suffice it to say that The Bard was right.
(How's that for a double metaphor?) Recalling that there was a healthy
number of non-hit file names, I set out to quell my suspicions that file
re-naming antics were at play. Fat chance!
The great majority of non-hit file names came from the \DPG1, \DPG2,
\SPC, and \PENT directories. (That last one fills you sysops with
confidence, doesn't it?). As it turns out, "DPG" stands for Digital
Photo Gallery. We've all seen their scans before under such names as
DPG_0123, etc. A *lot* of the scans in these two directories were
recognized as being identical to images with other names. DPG_0184
is a well-worn scan of Kim Bassinger; DPG_0182 and _0030 are of
Cher; DPG_0061 and _0220 are of Cindy Crawford. (Is there a pattern
here?) The files in the \SPC directory are ALL on the old favorite
Private Pictures CD except on TF they look even worse for the wear.
The \PENT scans, well, you get the idea...
As disturbing as it was seeing so many familiar images under
different names (never mind which name came first or is "correct"),
what bothered me more was the poor quality of the images as they
were displayed on the screen. "Fuzzy" comes to mind when trying to
describe them. I bothered to look up the same scans on other CDs
(notably Seedy CDs) and the very same image was frequently rendered
much sharper from them than from TF. Can't explain it - just
pointing it out.
There are 41 directories with GIFs in them. Basically, the
directories are named A,B,C, etc. and contain GIFs with that letter
as the first letter in their name. However, there's also the 0
directory where numerically named GIFs are (e.g. 0123PICR) and then
14 other GIF directories with names like those above plus \NICE,
\JMIS, etc. Some of the non-alphabetical directory names appear to
be topical (e.g. \STARS) but whatever divisional lines were
intended, they got crossed quite a bit.
Finally, there's a surprising number of "G" scans on TF, e.g. just a
face. What's puzzling more than their presence is that they're
scattered throughout the CD and might well be sandwiched in between
two X scans. Go figure...
Bottom line: Thumbs down all around. Other "grassroots" CDs are
better on all accounts and the era of licensed collections is upon
us. Save your money and wait for them.
... He who hesitates is frost. - Eskimo proverb
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 6135
To: TIM HELTON Date: 10/13/93 10:48p
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93 6:37p Private: No
Hello Tim!
12 Oct 93, Tim Helton writes to Pat Rickerson:
TH> Pat, don't use this echo to conduct "one on one" business with your
TH> customers. Messages must "benefit everybody".
TH> tim
TH> moderator
Sorry, don't want to do any thing wrong, but I was just letting the person
know the money was in the mail. Could you please tell how and where I make
replys, any help would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife that tries
to find deals for anyone and everyone here in the bottom of Texas. I am real
new at all this. Thanks for any help!
Pat
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From: MICHAEL SEGARS Number: 6136
To: MARK CLARDY Date: 10/13/93 8:58p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey, add me to the list for that catalog. I can be reached at the following:
Michael Segars
P.O Box 2132
Desoto, TX 75123-2132
Thanks Again,
Michael
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6137
To: STEAN SNYMAN Date: 10/07/93 2:18p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I'm looking for info on : Clipart Goliath VGA Spectrum #1 disks..
If you are looking for a LOT of stuff on a disc, avoid VGA Spectrum - they
included both the .ZIP AND the unZIPped version of all the software on their
disc, along with a few hundred .GIFs and some other graphics files.
If you want to be able to run the stuff from the ROM, then VGA Spectrum is a
good choice, as most of the programs CAN be run from the ROM.
* SLMR 2.1a * No good deed goes unpunished.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6138
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/07/93 4:53p
Subj: CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Can someone tell me if there is a cd out that has the Borg ( decent scans )
Sci-Fi / Fantasy would be your best bet - I can't guarentee that it has Borg on
it, though, haven't had the time to look at one yet (and I'm not a Trekkie, so
unfortunately it's not a real high priority)....
* SLMR 2.1a * Uncle Sam needs your money - Congress already SPENT it!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6139
To: MARC BUFE Date: 10/07/93 4:56p
Subj: BTX/C64EMU/C64BBSS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>a) den C64/C128 Emulator fuer PC
I don't think one exists, try the CBM or CBM-128 echoes. Definitely NOT
available on a CD-ROM if one does exist, so far as I have seen.
* SLMR 2.1a * Press ALT-T to adopt me - I NEED a better home!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6140
To: JARED MARTIN Date: 10/12/93 6:48p
Subj: COOL CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>I've been looking at a game called BattleChess
>Enhanced...anyone ever heard or seen it? Thanks...
I've played the "regular" Battle Chess, haven't had the time to play with the
Enhanced version (yet) but the regular version is already quite nice
looking....
* SLMR 2.1a * A dog is a dog, but a Cat is a purrrrson.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6141
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/12/93 6:49p
Subj: NO10 VS PIER 3 Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
>Not so sure about Night Owl 11, with the pending six-figure
>damage settlement hanging over Richard Graham's head.
???
I had NOT heard about this....
* SLMR 2.1a * Windows isn't a virus; a virus does something!
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From: JIM COYLE Number: 6142
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/11/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: NO10 vs Pier 3 Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> Graham's head. (this is all public info) What's more, I'll give you a
MS> better price: Get your best *legitimate* price on Night Owl 10, and I'll
MS> sell you a Pier 3 for $5 less. At this time, Ismail's price of $20 on
Will you give me the same deal? I heard Night Owl v10 was $25 from Free
Spirit. 1-800-638-5757 is their phone if you wanna call and verify. I'd give
you $20 in a second for Pier 3.
And could you tell me about the Night Owl? The damage settlement, I mean. I
haven't heard anything about that.
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From: JIM COYLE Number: 6143
To: MARK CLARDY Date: 10/11/93 12:21p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MC> Hello, Everyone! I would like to tell you that Computer Works BBS now
MC> has a new catalog of CD's.
Mark,
Here's my address, how about sending me a catalog?
Jim Coyle
914 Catherine Street
Bloomsburg, PA 17815
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From: RAY MAJESKI Number: 6144
To: CHRIS BOURNE Date: 10/13/93 9:41p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please forward free CD-ROM catalog to:
Ray Majeski
6516 Camino Fuente
El Paso, TX 79912
I am a writer/reviewer for the SouthWest International Personal Computer
Club in El Paso, TX. Please forward catalog. If you would like me to
write an article about some of your CDs, please forward evaluation
copies to same address. Please include phone number where our members
can order CDs. I will forward copy of newsletter to you when published.
Thank you in advance.
Ray Majeski
915-775-4300 Daytime
915-581-0336 Nights
915-595-6019 FAX
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From: COLIN FLETCHER Number: 6145
To: ANYBODY Date: 10/13/93 3:41p
Subj: MAC/DOS Shareware CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WANTED: A Shareware/PD CD that's Hermes(MAC) BBS system ready...preferably one
that has both Mac and Dos progs...
Also, perhaps an adult CD that might be available, Erogenous Zones Vol. 1 or 2?
Thanks,
Colin
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From: TERRY YAN Number: 6146
To: ED YEE Date: 10/12/93 11:09p
Subj: oh yeah Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hey ed how's it going??? It's me ( you know ) hmm boy is that socail every hard
eh? OH well the jays won!! kewl!!!
c-ya at school
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6147
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 10:18a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG 10/13/93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
X#&]%%+fN ! )19AI
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00
ABOUT COWS...............................30.00
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN.....................15.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00
ANECDOTES VOL.1..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00
ANIMALS..................................25.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................15.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT.......................10.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................15.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................30.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................15.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00
FONT MASTER..............................10.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00
FRESH ARTE...............................30.00
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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GAME ARENA...............................10.00
GAME MASTER..............................20.00
GAME PACK II.............................30.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00
GIFS GALORE..............................20.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00
HAM RADIO................................15.00
HAMCALL..................................40.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00
JETS & PROPS.............................30.00
JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00
KINGS QUEST V............................20.00
KLOTSKI..................................25.00
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00
LOOM.....................................20.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00
MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00
MPC WIZARD...............................20.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00
PENTAMINOES..............................28.00
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................20.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................30.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................30.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................30.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........35.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................30.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................20.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................30.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................25.00
Q & A....................................50.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................20.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................30.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................20.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............30.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................30.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............30.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........30.00
SELECTWARE...............................10.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................20.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............30.00
SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................15.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................25.00
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6148
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 10:18a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG 10/13/93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 <<
>> Continued from previous message <<
SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................25.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............20.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................20.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................30.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................15.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................15.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................15.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................20.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................30.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................20.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................30.00
STELLER 7................................20.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................15.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................95.00
TAO OF COW...............................30.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................15.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........20.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................30.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...25.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................12.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................20.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................25.00
U.S. CIVICS..............................30.00
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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* Origin: Comm-Post BBS Tucson, AZ (602)-571-9063 (1:300/53)
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6149
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 10:26a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FOR A FREE CATALOG OR TO PLACE AN ORDER , WRITE TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # 1-602-292-0497
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* Origin: Comm-Post BBS Tucson, AZ (602)-571-9063 (1:300/53)
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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT Number: 6150
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 9:27p
Subj: Cd Rom list 1 of 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
1414 Banavie Terrace East
Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778
************ CD-ROM Title List ****************
CD-ROM Title Price
Adventures of Willy Beamish $30
Aircraft Encyclopedia, The $40
American Business Phone Book $35
Anecdotes Vol 1, 2, or 3 $25
Animals $35
Arthur's Teacher Trouble $40
Audubon's Mammals $35
Battle Chess $30
Beauty and the Beast $30
Bible Library $40
Bibles & Religion $25
C Users Group Library $40
Chessmaster (Multi-Media) $30
CIA World Fact Book $35
CIA World Fact Book (Multi-Media) $40
Clipart Goliath $25
Clipart Heaven $25
Complete Bookshop $25
Composer Quest $45
Comptons Encyclopedia (Limited Availability) $70
Dictionaries & Language $25
Electronic Cookbook $45
Encyclopedia MPC Ver 1 $60
Encyclopedia Multi-Media Ver 5 $60
Encyclopedia of Sound $25
Family Doctor $35
Font Master $20
Font Master Two $30
Fonts for the Professional $35
Game Arena $20
Game Master $30
Game Pack II $40
GIFs Galore $30
Great Cities Volume 1 $40
Great Cities Volume 2 $40
Reply here to order.
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: The Rainbow Zen - Fallston, Md - (410)893-8255 (1:2617/108)
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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT Number: 6151
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 9:28p
Subj: Cd Rom list 2 of 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
1414 Banavie Terrace East
Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778
*********** CD-ROM Title List Cont'd ***********
CD-ROM Title Price
Ham Radio $25
Holy Bible, The $30
Interactive Story Time 1 $30
Interactive Story Time 2 $30
International Business and Economic Atlas $30
J Schumacher's New Prague Cookbook $40
Jones In the Fast Lane $30
KGB World Fact Book $40
Kings Quest V $30
KlotSki $35
Kodak Photo CD Access Software $30
Languages of the World $50
Loom $30
MacMillan Dictionary for Children $40
Magazine Rack $40
Mavis Bacon Teaches Typing $35
MIDI Music Shop $35
Mixed-Up Mother Goose $30
Monkey Island $40
Mother of all Clip-Art $25
MPC Wizard $30
National Geographic Mammals $40
National Parks $35
Our Solar System $25
PC SIG Version 11 $30
PC SIG Version 12 $35
PC SIG World of Games $25
PC SIG Home & Business Collection $20
PC SIG World of Windows $25
Playing With Languages French $45
" " " German $45
" " " English $45
" " " Japanese $45
" " " Spanish $45
Programmer's ROM $40
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: The Rainbow Zen - Fallston, Md - (410)893-8255 (1:2617/108)
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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT Number: 6152
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 9:29p
Subj: Cd Rom list 3 of 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Elite Computer Systems, Inc.
1414 Banavie Terrace East
Bel Air, Maryland 21015-5778
********* CD-ROM Titles Cont'd ***********
CD-ROM Title Price
Publish-It $35
Q & A $60
RBBS In A Box Version 3.1 $40
Roger Ebert Movie Companion $40
Shareware Heaven $25
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective $30
Sherlock Holmes $30
So Much Shareware 2 $25
So Much Shareware 3 $35
Space Quest IV $30
Stellar 7 $30
U.S. Atlas (Multi-Media) $30
U.S. Atlas with Auto Map $35
U.S./World Atlas $32
Where is Carmen San Diego $40
Wing Commander/Ultima VI $35
World Atlas (Multi-Media) $30
Dinosaurs $40
Gameware Collection $35
Guiness Disc of Records 1993 $40
To Order, Reply Here.
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: The Rainbow Zen - Fallston, Md - (410)893-8255 (1:2617/108)
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 6153
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/13/93 9:56p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Mike Shannon beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
MS>I would like to make this public appeal to all Starvector's past, pres
MS>and future customers:
MS>
MS>A problem exists in Fidoland, and it has just recently come to my
MS>attention. There exists a Fido policy which basically states that rou
MS>Netmail is not to be used for the purposes of transacting any type of
MS>commercial business. This includes solicitations, direct sales, price
MS>quotes, catalog requests, and the like. I spoke with Dallas Hinton, t
This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-like
dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely
unmanaged and unregulated like the rest of the net. FIDO is big and is
handy but both Intellec and especially RIME are much more pleasant places
to hang out. However when it comes to buying and selling, you can't beat
the size of crowd you reach here.
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 265 of the Socialist Takeover!
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 6154
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/13/93 10:07p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Steve Greeno beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
SG>WORLD ATLAS M/M..........................20.00
How much shipping on this one? Is this the latest Windows version with
the "new" Europe? You didn't provide a phone number for ordering.
Ron
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 265 of the Socialist Takeover!
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 6155
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/13/93 10:09p
Subj: Queer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike Shannon beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
MS>DR>Listen to me you camel-sucking sand monkey:
MS>
MS>Man, when are you going to come out of your shell and learn to express
MS>your TRUE feelings?
Yea! Don't sugarcoat it dave!
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * NO special rights for behavior!
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From: DWAYNE COFFELT Number: 6156
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 8:59p
Subj: 2400int - $ Or Trade 4 C Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
2400 baud internal Hayes compatible modem with external volume control
works great but just upgraded to 14.4 so I no longer need this one.
Still have box, docs, and the worthless crosstalk software that came
with it.
Will sell for $25 negotiable or would be interested in trading for
a CD. Let me know what CD you have to trade if interested in a trade.
Reply here or call
Dwayne E. Coffelt
home (615)-837-7827 (Local to chattanooga)
work (205)-574-8139
Uttered by Dwayne Coffelt at 20:51 on 10/13/93
___
X RM 1.2 00799 X He's got a Magnet! Everyone BACKUP!! - Cmdr. Data
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6157
To: TIM HELTON Date: 10/14/93 8:40a
Subj: Re: gettin' in step Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93 6:43p Private: No
-=> Quoting Tim Helton to All <=-
TH> We've ventured outside of the toleration zone. Some vendors are
TH> using this echo to conduct "one on one" business with their
TH> customers - posts that don't "benefit everyone". These type messages
TH> will no longer be tolerated.
Good move, Tim. The message traffic count will probably drop by 25% !
Thanks!
... Security, confine Ensign Helton to the brig.
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* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6158
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/14/93 9:39a
Subj: Latest Batch Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Bob Jackson <=-
MS> our days 28 hours long. <g> BTW: What did you think of that latest
MS> batch of discs?
W-e-l-l-l-l....not too good. I *may* keep one but likely all four will be
coming back. Reviews of Super Smutware and Total Fantasy have been posted.
I've done a quick look at High Volume Nudes but need to study it a bit more.
Firearms CD doesn't make the cut. High Volume Nudes includes previews of
the producer's other products, incl. the "Almanac" CD. That one looks very
promising. Go ahead an package up another batch and send them on. By the
time UPS gets them down here, I'll be ready for them.
... With a Blue Wave of my hand I cleared away the SLMR!
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6159
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/14/93 10:01a
Subj: BB II & SHOWOFF Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Lee Noga to Mike Shannon <=-
LN> We added a neat slideshow feature to our SHOWOFF interface as well as
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Great!
LN> a comand option to read text stories too--SHOWOFF has been enhanced
LN> since its first release on BB I--The thumbnail pages are *MUCHO*
LN> clearer, and the interface is video smart and will scale back the
^^^^^^^
Ahhhhh!
LN> image from 1024x768 to VGA, if the user does not have SVGA--This disc
LN> will sure to please Bob Jackson, cuz' SHOWOFF can't get much better
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<blush>
LN> then it is.......(well, we are adding a new feature never done before
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If I were a cat, I'd be dead now!
The end-user CUSTOMERS will be the big winners here. I guess the sysops
could care less about "front ends". I've never been a sysop (and have NO
plans to that end) so I *REALLY* appreciate a good "graphical" user interface.
Any chance of getting my copy autographed by thou? Would also appreciate a
snapshot if you have one. (You show me yours and I'll show you mine. ((:> )
... From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6160
To: TIM HELTON Date: 10/14/93 10:10a
Subj: Acceptable Message? Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93 6:44p Private: No
JL> Rob, How about a phone number so we can talk turkey. I might
JL> be interested
Tim:
Is this an acceptable message that doesn't violate "one-on-one" business?
... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand!
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB ROSOL Number: 6161
To: JACK HUDDLE Date: 10/13/93 12:14p
Subj: DESIGNER 4.0 on CD- CHEAP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jack:
You just missed it- it went out yesterday.
Thanks
Bob
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From: BOB ROSOL Number: 6162
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 12:21p
Subj: Corel ArtShow 3 CD & Book Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Latest Corel ArtShow 3 CD with beautifully printed coffee table book
ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from
Windows and allows searching & viewing of all 3000 images
accompanied by on-line MIDI music
3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)
Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
your CD-ROM drive.
Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1
>> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<
$25 + UPS
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 6163
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/13/93 8:45p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Correct. 10 CD's would be $525. If you have any other questions, feel free to
ask.
- Adrian Vergot
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6164
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/13/93 9:27a
Subj: Re: Inside tip Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <10-11-93 01:00> Mike Shannon wrote:
MS>> LN>several more distribs have announced they are getting away from
MS>> the 'XXX'
MS>> You speak the truth, oh well-travelled one.
Darn shame at that, Mike--We were doing so well in that arena and had some
great stuff coming--It was painful cancelling the contracts but...only good
comes to those that wait, and we fell into some great stuff, in an entire
different niche--So, I guess good things can always some how come from
something bad :)
PS--BB II is at press and should be shipping later this week--We are drop
shipping to major arteries, so your supplier should be in 'Fat' city, soon.
We added a neat slideshow feature to our SHOWOFF interface as well as a comand
option to read text stories too--SHOWOFF has been enhanced since its first
release on BB I--The thumbnail pages are *MUCHO* clearer, and the interface is
video smart and will scale back the image from 1024x768 to VGA, if the user
does not have SVGA--This disc will sure to please Bob Jackson, cuz' SHOWOFF
can't get much better then it is.......(well, we are adding a new feature never
done before with images, but that's a perk :))
Hugs,
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6165
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/13/93 2:59p
Subj: Re: address for Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to all <10-11-93 20:22> Michael Harris wrote:
MH>> Can someone give me the address for Sexy CD software
MH>> the cd only has sexy cd software
MH>> miami fl. 33166
It is a *BOGUS* publishing company--We have spent a thousand researching this
firm, and found the people behind it--This company is fictious, and is not
registered with the State of Florida--So your chasing a ghost.
IN summary, it falls under fraud. Need I say more?
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: BILL DEERTZ Number: 6166
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/13/93 10:51p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -S
Are both of these Pioneer multiple disc players SCSI format? Are these
internal or external?
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* Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193 (1:3603/170.0)
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From: PAUL CHATFIELD Number: 6167
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/10/93 9:23p
Subj: Queer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well I dont think this kind of OUTBURST is either wanted or justified in a
international echo...not to mention the fact that I and others actually have to
pay for the mails we get...I pay $1.50 a minute!! and I dont expect to get you
off topic drivel to boot! Kindly take you abuse and feelings elsewhere..
like netmail direct or voice!....to the moderator...sorry for the reply but
this king of thing p's me something shocking...I poll from Singapore to the USA
for this...and I hope this doesnt happen again!
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* Origin: CDROMS ONLINE +65-270-1163/276-5668/7883 (6:600/357)
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From: PAUL CHATFIELD Number: 6168
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/10/93 9:29p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Also send one to me
c/o #15-01 the Octagon
105 Cecil St
Singapore (0106)
Also list Int'l shipping charges too....can't wait!
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* Origin: CDROMS ONLINE +65-270-1163/276-5668/7883 (6:600/357)
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From: PAUL CHATFIELD Number: 6169
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/10/93 9:37p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What number do I call to order from outside CAN/USA...I live in Singapore!
Will you ship with covers in a seperate mail....the thought police are crazy
here!
If you have a full catalog please post to me at the addresss below of fax
c/o #15-01 The Octagon
105 Cecil St
Singapore (0106)
fax +65-224-5707
or netmail it to me direct
6:600/357 or 6:600/368...14400 24hrs
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From: PAUL CHATFIELD Number: 6170
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 9:45p
Subj: Catalogs for overseas buyers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Distributors!
Please send your catalogs to
Paul Chatfield
#15-01 The Octagon
105 Cecil St
Singapore (0106)
Also list Int'l Phone details and shipping charges too....can't wait!
I would be happy to Distribute locally here too. If the disks and rates are
good!....
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From: RANDY NEUNER Number: 6171
To: GARY KIMBRELL Date: 10/13/93 6:06a
Subj: Re: Budget Cd's 4 sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gary, hi and I saw your ad for used adult cd's. I have the 1993
T & A 2 THE MAXX (Profit Press) that I would trade for any of the
three titles you listed. Leave mailing address if interested.
Thanks, Randy
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: MARK ABBACCHI Number: 6172
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/14/93 12:25a
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ronald!
In a message to Jim Lambert <10/11/93> Ronald Leon wrote:
RL> Jim,
RL> Does Night Owl make a windows only shareware CD?? If so, how much?
RL> Ron
The windows disk will be out at the end of the year most probably...
perhaps a little earlier, but nothing firm yet!
Mark
* WCE 1.02/2072 * It's a great place, and the drinks are cold!
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* Origin: The MARKetplace BBS! (314) 521-3732 (1:100/550)
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From: JOHN RICKER Number: 6173
To: HAROLD YARBROUGH Date: 10/12/93 6:36p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|o| Monster Disc (2 disc set)........................
HY|o| ALL cd's are BBS ready. Great for adding files to BBS.
HY|o| $15.00 each or $100.00 for Set!
HY|o| Contact Harold at (314) 255-1792
If the Monster Disc is Adult I will take it for $15.00...
John Ricker..
* OLX 2.2 * No... Why, have YOU ever snorted laser toner?
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* Origin: The CAD Connection! (602) 835-0274 Mesa, Az. (1:114/282)
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From: JOHN RICKER Number: 6174
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 4:50p
Subj: Getting into the Business Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there All,
I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I would go about getting
into the CD-ROM business (sell the CD's).. I would appreciate any
information that you could provide..
Thanks in advance...
john ricker
* OLX 2.2 * MEMBER - Association of ASCII Cows - MEMBER
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From: LEWIS BULLARD Number: 6175
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 4:31p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Have a few items I need to get rid of. All items guaranteed against DOA.
Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250
Toshiba 42 meg MFM 3.5 hard drive with 5.25 mounting bracket
Shareware Extravaganza 4 cd's 25,000 programs
Sigcat 1992 software showcase, mostly DB stuff includes Wordperfect
5.1 manual, online bible among others.
Harvard Graphics for Windows, All manuals and letter to transfer reg
Logetech scanman 32 greyscale with paintshop
Kaypro II luggable computer with softcase, dual floppie, mono monitor
lots of cp/m software $75
AT&T business phone system, comkey, intercomm, speakerphone, 8 phones
with up to eight lines each $100
4 256x9 100ns simms
Professor Windows, learn windows at your own pace, box, dox and 5.25
only
Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter, box, dox, reg, 5.25
Make offer on all items. Will consider trades on most. Am looking for
scsi controller with ext. ports, external scsi cases with cables,
Trantor parallel to scsi adapter, 14.4 ext. fax modem, reference cd's.
Lewis 405-357-5942
... Would she be happy with a Pet Rock instead?
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From: JOE REYNOLDS Number: 6176
To: ALL Date: 10/10/93 6:53p
Subj: Adult CDs wanted for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in purchasing some adult cds to run with my BBS. Does
anyone know of any titles and where I can get them.
Thanks
Joe Reynolds
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From: G. LARRY WEBB Number: 6177
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/13/93 1:01p
Subj: FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mike,
I'll offer $15 including shipping for the Action CD ROM. Post here with your
address or ship to me at 256 Brookberry Circle, Chapel Hill, NC
27514; or call me at 919 929 8761 if you like. Thanks... (PS -- if you ship it
to me, I'll send the check as soon as I know your address!)
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From: ZACHARY HAMM Number: 6178
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 6:08p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FOR SALE:
7th guest CD-ROM with "The Making of T7G" Video..................$40.00
Microsoft Works CD-ROM, Word 2.0 & Excel 4.0, docs on disk.......$75.00
Microsoft Office CD-ROM, Docs on Disk...........................$125.00
Hobbes OS/2 CD-ROM, Shareware for OS/2 1.3-2.1...................$25.00
All prices are firm and do not include shipping.
All are guaranteed against DOA.
Call 919-217-8333 or echo back.
Zack
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From: NATHANIEL BRITTS Number: 6179
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/13/93 10:45a
Subj: wanted cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Doug,
Thanks for the respond and offer. I would like to purchase all 5 but my
finances will not allow for it at this time. I will buy manpower for 25.00.
If this is good for you let me know. Thanks again!
Nat
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From: TIM SCHOOLER Number: 6180
To: TOM HUNT Date: 10/13/93 9:40p
Subj: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Oct 12 11:19 93, Tom Hunt of 1:151/162 wrote:
TH> I am looking for the Hot Pix Vol 1 made by the Windy City
TH> folks does anyone have a copy they would like to
TH> sell..looking for the best price leave number so I can get
TH> in touch thanks
I've got one Tom. Paid 89.00 for it. I'll sell it for 70.00. 1-318-988-1404 or
netmail 1:3803/1.4.
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From: MICHAEL ANDREWS Number: 6181
To: ALL Date: 10/14/93 2:54a
Subj: Mitsumi CD Drivers for OS/2 2.1 GA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just D/L'd the New Drivers off of the IBM Support BBS. FREQ'able here
BTN of MITFX.ZIP. File Size is 14k, Below is an excerpt from the Docs:
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This README describes an OS/2 device driver (MITFX001.ADD) for the
Mitsumi CD-ROM drives. The device driver supports the new
FX series of Mitsumi drives: the single speed CRMC-FX001 and the
double-speed CRMC-FX001D. The device driver also supports the
older Mitsumi CRMC-LU005.
This device driver does not support the older Mitsumi CRMC-LU002
CD-ROM drive (also known as the Tandy CDR-1000 or BSR-6800).
Supported Features
------------------
The OS/2 Mitsumi CD-ROM device driver (MITFX001.ADD) supports the
following features:
* Reads data from CD-ROM discs conforming to the High Sierra/ISO-9660
file formats.
* Plays audio from standard audio CDs or mixed mode CD-ROM discs
containing both data and audio
* Multisession photo CD
* Reads data from Mode 2 Form 1 or Mode 2 Form 2 sector formats
* MMPM/2 Software Motion Video
* MMPM/2 CD Audio Player
* Software lock, unlock and eject (Models FX001 and FX001D only)
* Data transfer via software polling or interrupts
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So if you need them come an get it, I've got them installed here in less
than 10 minutes.
... If you want a Galaxy class PC cruiser, "OS/2" is it!
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From: STEVE EVERLEY Number: 6182
To: ANYONE Date: 10/14/93 6:04p
Subj: Telephone Directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for the most up to date and complete CD containing the telephone
numbers for EVERYONE in the U.S. I understand that someone has a set of about
6-8 cd's that is real good. I have seen one that is 2-CD's. I guess it is OK
but definately not very complete.
Can any one help me..
Thanks.. -=Steve=-
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From: ERIC SANTELICES Number: 6183
To: ALL Date: 10/14/93 8:29a
Subj: So Much Shareware I & II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have so much Shareware vol I and II is there a vol III?
If so where can I get it?
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From: ERIC SANTELICES Number: 6184
To: ALL Date: 10/14/93 8:31a
Subj: Latest Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
What is the latest SHAREWARE CD-ROM on the market. I want one that was
produced with in the last 6 mon. I would also like it to support FILES.BBS
description structures.
Any suggestions?
EricS.
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From: JASON TAYNOR Number: 6185
To: MARK JOHNSEN Date: 10/15/93 1:36a
Subj: Re: Asian Ladies For Trad Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Well, I'm still intrested in this disc. I'll offer you $20 shipped or
consider a trade of it + a couple of bucks.....
- 2 copies of 7th Guest with video
- Macromind Action 1.0
- Lotus 123 for Windows with MM extensions
- Comption's MM encyclopedia
- Wing Commander 2 Deluxe
All : Would like to trade for either the above CD or some other decent adult
CD's or otherwise.
Jason
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 6186
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/14/93 9:27p
Subj: Wanted: Bible Cde Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Doug Carpenter beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
DC> DC> Does anyone know of/have a bible CD that will run from the CD ?
DC>
DC>We have a couple of choices there.....Bible Library at $28.50
Hi Doug,
Isn't the Bible Library an old 1988 disk or have they come out with a new
version? What year is the copyright? Does it come in a windows version?
I'm interested...thanks.
Ron
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * America Held Hostage: Day 267 of the Socialist Takeover!
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From: TONY DAVIS Number: 6187
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 9:33a
Subj: BBS Defense Fund Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund
Established to help pay the costs of litigation in defense of criminal charges
against Tony Davis, the costs of defending the State's attempt to forfeit and
sell Tony Davis' Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS computer equipment and
prosecuting cases against persons who violated any user of the Oklahoma
Information Exchange BBS civil rights as a result of the raid and seizure of
the OIE BBS.
The outcome of these legal procedures will inevitable have a long term effect
on the electronic communications community, and all interested parties are
requested to help defend their legal rights.
Please send your donation to:
The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund
3 Quarter Horse Lane
McLoud, Oklahoma 74851
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From: BOB HALL Number: 6188
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/14/93 9:44a
Subj: INSIDE TIP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LN>Don't you love this echo for it's ability to get information out to a wide
LN>range of users and publishers etc--Well, for all the closet publishers that
LN>read this echo, got an update which supports what I have been saying about t
LN>'Grassroot' industry falling by the wayside--
Yep. And when there is something not covered in the echo, call me for
the "rest of the story".....
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 6189
To: DANIEL HAGAN Date: 10/15/93 8:25a
Subj: 1 OF 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dan, I am cross posting this to the CDROM ECHO.
For obvious reasons.. thanks Bob Hall
DH> * Forwarded from "R19 SYSOP"
DH> * Originally by Tony Davis
DH> * Originally to All
DH> * Originally dated 4 Oct 1993, 19:36
DH>Well, it is still appearing in the national trade mags. Here (and the
DH>next message) is a story that is in the October issue of Boardwatch.
DH>The writer is Lance Rose, an attorney, and the author of "SYSLAW",
DH>the 'bible' on electronic communication law.
DH>TONY DAVIS & THE SHOW-BIZ COPS OF OKLAHOMA CITY
DH>The arrest of Tony Davis was reported in last month's Boardwatch. Davis
DH>operated the Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS in Oklahoma City. On August
DH>17, 1993, he was formally arraigned in Oklahoma state court and allowed to
DH>remain out of jail on $4500 bail. Since the first report, we looked into thi
DH>affair more closely. The closer one looks, the more absurd Davis' plight
DH>gets.
DH>The police investigation of Tony Davis culminated in two purchases of
DH>allegedly obscene CD-ROMs from Davis by undercover police on June 4th and
DH>July 12th, 1993. Shortly after the second purchase, on July 19, 1993, they
DH>arrived in force at Tony Davis' office with a warrant and seized some adult
DH>CD-ROMs from the stock he maintained in operating a CD-ROM retail business.
DH>They did not stop there, however. They also grabbed his BBS computer
DH>equipment and arrested Davis.
DH>The event had little chance of passing unnoticed, as the police brought alon
DH>a professional video camera and videotaped the whole affair. Afterwards they
DH>edited the tape, wrote a script, and with the help of the local ABC affiliat
DH>turned it into a weekly installment of a "reality television" program called
DH>"You're Busted". It was broadcast throughout the Oklahoma City area on July
DH>23rd, four days after the raid. For that extra dose of reality, the episode
DH>was narrated by one of the policemen who searched Davis' place and arrested
DH>him.
DH>As the police burst in on Davis, the voiceover informed TV viewers they were
DH>witnessing the control center for Davis' "international pornographic
DH>network". Out of roughly 2,000 CD- ROMs Davis kept on hand for the CD-ROM
DH>retail business he operated, the police confiscated 57. For purposes of
DH>comparison, that's under 3% of Davis' total stock of CD-ROMs. A far smaller
DH>percentage than the amount of hardcore adult material found in typical video
DH>stores in most parts of our country. Later in the show, the cop with the
DH>video camera focused on a computer screen showing the CD-ROM activity on
DH>Davis' BBS. The names of BBS users could be seen as they downloaded files
DH>from CD-ROMs. The narrating officer knowingly explained to the TV audience
DH>that they were seeing BBS users "viewing the smut" right then and there (not
DH>to spoil the fun, but the police were mistaken; users can't read image files
DH>they are transferred to their own computers). At the end of the show, the
DH>narrator belted out the show's theme: "Tony Davis, you're busted!" Davis did
DH>not enjoy his 15 minutes of fame. According to Davis, "the You're Busted'
DH>show was the most degrading thing I've seen done to anybody in my life."
DH>The newspapers were thoroughly scooped but joined in spiritedly, passing
DH>along police allegations that Tony Davis was running a "high-tech, modern-da
DH>porno house". They noted that other investigations continued, which might
DH>mean the police were investigating Davis' CD-ROM suppliers, his customers, o
DH>both. To their credit, they also gave a number of column inches to questions
DH>raised by Davis' defense attorney, William Holmes, about the legality of the
DH>police actions.
DH>Davis was charged with four obscenity-related counts at the arraignment, two
DH>based on the CD-ROM purchases by undercover officers prior to the raid.
DH>Another count charged Davis with criminal "possession" of obscenity, despite
DH>the Supreme Court's declaration in the past that mere possession of obscene
DH>material is perfectly legal. The addition of this bizarre claim indicates
DH>either that the local police do not understand the Constitutional rights of
DH>U.S. citizens, or do not care. The last count was for trafficking in obscene
DH>images. According to Davis' attorney, this statute was originally enacted in
DH>reaction to pornographic video games, and now seems to be directed at the
DH>downloading of BBS files that the cops videotaped. All charges could have a
DH>very hard time sticking if the defective search and seizure procedures used
DH>by the police are closely scrutinized in court.
DH>Those procedures do appear deeply defective. Federal protections for BBS's
DH>and sysops were apparently ignored wholesale in the Davis raid, just as in
DH>other BBS raids we've seen the past couple of years. The Electronic
DH>Communications Privacy Act ("ECPA"), protects electronic messages against
DH>government search or seizure. When the police took Davis' BBS, they prevente
DH>messages traveling through the BBS from being delivered to their ultimate
DH>addresses. About 150 messages went undelivered, according to Davis' attorney
DH>This interception violates the ECPA, even if the police resisted the
DH>temptation to read e-mail on the seized computers back in their offices.
DH>The Privacy Protection Act ("PPA"), prohibits seizure of materials being kep
DH>or prepared for publication, unless the person holding them is suspected of
DH>crime involving those very materials (with a few narrow exceptions). Davis'
DH>business activities included publishing the "Magnum" series of CD-ROMS, none
DH>of which were included in the titles the police thought obscene. By seizing
DH>computers containing the materials used by Davis' in publishing his CD-ROMs,
DH>the police grossly violated the PPA. Since Davis was not suspected or accuse
DH>of any crime in relation to the Magnum CD- ROMs he published, any associated
DH>materials simply should not have been touched by the police.
DH>Even plain vanilla 4th and 5th Amendment warrant requirements may have been
DH>violated by the police in this case. According to sources, the Oklahoma Cit
DH>police typically obtain a warrant based on an informal chat with the
DH>magistrate. Afterwards, they perform the actions authorized by the warrant,
DH>and only then submit a formal affidavit to support the warrant. If the polic
DH>followed this sloppy and deeply illegal procedure in Davis' case, then his
DH>due process rights were grossly violated. As a further example of official
DH>slop, neither the warrant under which the raid was conducted, nor the police
DH>request for that warrant, mentioned Davis' computer bulletin board at all.
DH>That fatal omission did not stop the cops from taking all the computer
DH>equipment anyway.
DH>Perhaps the Oklahoma City prosecutors believe the seizure was legal because
DH>it is authorized under Oklahoma's own obscenity seizure statutes. If so,
DH>they're dead wrong. Federal due process protections trump state seizure laws
DH>There was no emergency here to justify even a temporary abridgement of Davis
DH>full due process rights. The particular importance of the ECPA and PPA shoul
DH>not be underestimated by Oklahoma state attorneys or anyone else. The
DH>protections of these statutes are so important that Congress spelled them ou
DH>expressly, even though in a sense they merely clarify protections already
DH>contained in the Constitution. The police cannot bat these protections out o
DH>the way every time they threaten this week's episode of "You're Busted."
DH>--- GEcho 1.00
DH> * Origin: Health Professions El Paso, TX ZyXEL (915) 590-9798 (1:381/61)
DH>
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From: BOB HALL Number: 6190
To: DANIEL HAGAN Date: 10/15/93 8:27a
Subj: 2 OF 2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dan, I am cross posting this to the CDROM Echo for
obvious reasons....
thanks..
Bob Hall
DH> * Forwarded from "R19 SYSOP"
DH> * Originally by Tony Davis
DH> * Originally to All
DH> * Originally dated 4 Oct 1993, 19:36
DH>Davis' lawyer, himself a former local prosecutor, appears fully aware of the
DH>mess the police are making of the Davis matter. He sent them a letter a week
DH>after the raid formally notifying them they are violating the ECPA and PPA
DH>through their seizure and retention of Davis' computer equipment. In doing
DH>so, he is trying to short circuit a possible future defense by the cops that
DH>they did not know they were doing anything wrong by holding Davis' equipment
DH>Readers of Boardwatch may recall the lawsuit won by Steve Jackson Games
DH>against the U.S. government in Austin, Texas a few months back. The federal
DH>court held that the agents' naive BBS seizure violating the ECPA and PPA
DH>could be excused, but the agents became obligated to return the wrongly
DH>seized materials as soon as they found out about their privacy and publishin
DH>aspects and the laws forbidding their seizure. The same should certainly hol
DH>true here. Despite this precedent, as of August 19th the police still did no
DH>return anything to Davis, almost a month after receiving his lawyer's
DH>notifying letter.
DH>Why did the police pick on Davis? It certainly wasn't due to their keen law
DH>enforcement instincts. Despite the screaming newspaper headlines about porno
DH>shop merchants, Davis is a well- known and respected business man. He runs a
DH>telephone goods and services company, selling equipment and special services
DH>like Centrex switching to local area businesses. He was operating Oklahoma
DH>Information Exchange, a widely reputed and very busy BBS. He was one of the
DH>founders of Fidonet, and was Region 19 coordinator for several years. In his
DH>CD-ROM business, he sold many titles (with adult titles accounting for a
DH>minute portion of his business), and produced his own Magnum CD-ROMs.
DH>Davis also had a fairly extensive age verification scheme to assure only
DH>adults were getting access to adult materials on his BBS. Memberships were
DH>which to those who had credit cards. In addition, to get access to the adult
DH>area users had to send Davis assigned letter stating they were over 21.
DH>Despite these measures, when the dust cleared Davis' standing as a
DH>businessman and his age verification procedures did nothing to slow down the
DH>police.
DH>After talking with Davis, his attorney and other local sources, the blame fo
DH>his troubles should be laid on the creepy little deal the Oklahoma City
DH>police cooked up with the local ABC TV affiliate for the "You're Busted"
DH>television program. The TV station gave the police a professional video
DH>camera and the opportunity to shoot, script and narrate a TV program called
DH>"You're Busted". The payoff to the police was 15 minutes of fame on a weekly
DH>basis for individual cops, and great publicity and a high profile for police
DH>department as a whole. In return, the TV station received a TV show in hugel
DH>popular "reality television" format, an exclusive relationship with the
DH>police not enjoyed by other local stations, and, it would appear, very low
DH>production costs.
DH>A great business deal for the police and the television station, but terribl
DH>news for just about everyone else. For starters, the police end up paying
DH>less attention to protecting the community and more to show biz. On-the-scen
DH>arrests make the best TV, so the police will be more motivated to obtain
DH>search and arrest warrants and less concerned about whether the intrusion on
DH>peoples' lives is justified. In fact, the more individuals they intrude on,
DH>the better the "You're Busted" episode.
DH>The effect on the news media is just as bad. The local ABC affiliate falsely
DH>presents the police-made footage as "reality", when in fact it's been
DH>manufactured for TV just like all other TV fodder. The police may not be
DH>conversant with the finer points of constitutional law, but they're smart
DH>enough to know if they don't make a good show they'll be canned fast by the
DH>station. Further, the media, the proud "fourth estate", lets itself become n
DH>more than a flack for the local police. The public, as usual, is victimized
DH>on both ends. Its gets prosecution of the most entertaining instead of the
DH>most deserving, while the couch potatoes of Oklahoma City are served up a
DH>desperately skewed view of law enforcement and who are the criminals.
DH>Without the cop/show biz connection, Tony Davis might never have been busted
DH>If the police had taken the trouble to investigate Davis' life a bit, they
DH>would have discovered that the adult CD-ROMs were only a small part of his
DH>business. Tony Davis is not a porn merchant, not the type of person to hold
DH>up to others as a bad example. Yet with their constant need to come up with
DH>new and exciting material on a TV production schedule, the police overlooked
DH>the reality of Davis' business. It fit their agenda better to bust Tony Davi
DH>with a bang with the whole world watching, than to quietly give Davis a word
DH>to the wise about the police department's newly formulated policies on
DH>digitized adult materials.
DH>Indeed, the police departments' failure to give Davis a little advance
DH>warning seems almost criminally negligent. According to assistant district
DH>attorney Lori Nettleton, "This is the first time that charges have been file
DH>involving the use of computers in an obscenity case in Oklahoma County." A
DH>quick look at the laws under which Davis was charged shows they were on the
DH>Oklahoma statute books for almost ten years. Why did the police not act unde
DH>them until now?
DH>One could argue the police themselves promoted the growth of the adult
DH>computer file business through their own laissez-faire attitude toward
DH>computer obscenity laws for the last ten years. Most people figure out
DH>whether something's illegal by looking to see if the police are arresting
DH>people for doing it. While this is no excuse for pursuing clearly criminal
DH>activity, Davis' acts were, at worst, in a grey area of arguable criminality
DH>Now the police are overeager to make an example out of him, after entirely
DH>failing to give any guidance on just what counts as criminal conduct when it
DH>comes to adult materials.
DH>In the overzealous police raid and arrest of Tony Davis, everyone loses.
DH>Davis loses his freedom and his property, and he already lost much of his
DH>reputation as a business man. The users of the Oklahoma Information Exchange
DH>BBS lost. They trusted that they had rights of privacy from the government,
DH>and the Oklahoma City police betrayed that trust. The police will lose as
DH>well if they are held responsible for their gross violations of warrant
DH>procedures. If anyone decides to sue them, maybe they'll be kind enough to
DH>videotape it so we can watch it all later on TV.
DH>--- GEcho 1.00
DH> * Origin: Health Professions El Paso, TX ZyXEL (915) 590-9798 (1:381/61)
DH>
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From: WYATT WOLFE Number: 6191
To: TIM HELTON Date: 10/15/93 4:13a
Subj: gettin' in step Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93 7:42p Private: No
Tim,
Not a vender first off... but is there not in fact a C_forsale
(commercial for sale) echo, sponsered by FIDO.. If not, just wondering, because
any time I put any of my personal info in it, the moderator says its not for
home sales.. so in fact, this makes your statement of FIDO rules saying
"Commercial Advertising is not allowed in FIDO inacurate... I am not just
pulling this outta the blue.. I pay for my echos like most.. and have had this
C_FORSALE echo from the get go.. would it not be in FIDO's best intrest to
direct the misled to the right echo, then to ban them from them all?
Wyatt Wolfe
1:114/214
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6192
To: CHRIS KUEFLER Date: 10/14/93 11:28p
Subj: my order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CK>Howdy mike.... jsut wondering if you got my order off with no problems? I
CK>ordered Peir 2&3.
CK>(the name on the credit card was MIKE MACSWEEN to refreash your memory)
Went out on 10/4 Chris by insured Airmail. Customs can sometimes play
a part here, so please be patient.
Thanks,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6193
To: THOMAS SECORN Date: 10/14/93 11:28p
Subj: NICE TRY Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I wonder if you realize that calls to an 800-line can be traced. Be
chatting with you soon.
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6194
To: RON DWIGHT Date: 10/14/93 11:28p
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RD> That wasn't a nasty message and the reason it was sent
RD>was because my order had not arrived. Let's get some FACTS
RD>straight here Doug:-
RD>P.S. I notice that the 5th CD, which was ordered, was advertised
RD>in your price list published on 6th of September AND in the last
RD>price list published, but still hasn't been shipped.
Ron,
Which title was it? Maybe we have it in stock.
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6195
To: ALL Date: 10/14/93 11:28p
Subj: OS/2BOX ETA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
______________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #3: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS |
|______________________________________________________|
We are now taking pre-orders on the following title.
- Cards are not processed until date of shipment -
_______________________________ _________________
| | | |
| Title: CD OS/2BOX | | Price: $29 |
|_______________________________| |_________________|
- DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -
For those of you who have placed your pre-orders with us for this
terrific new CD, and are waiting patiently, we thank you. Due to
production delays, the ETA has been pushed back a couple of weeks,
and Starvector should begin shipping around October 25th. The good
news is that the guys at Damar have taken advantage of this delay to
add some brand new shareware titles, making OS/2Box the only TRULY
"current" OS/2 CD on the market. The wait will be worth it folks!
You all know about the great track record of Damar's previous
releases: CD-Winbox and CD-Powerbox. Well, get ready OS/2 users,
because the BEST and most RECENT OS/2 shareware CD is almost here!
The demand will be high so get your name on our list if you want
to be among the first to try out this brand new title!
* Slick, mouse-driven graphic user interface for OS/2
* Consists of 100% OS/2 2.0+ shareware applications. No old version
1.x files
* Fully BBS-ready
* 350+mb total
* To begin shipping around October 25th
* FREE shipping on all preorders
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6196
To: ALL Date: 10/14/93 11:29p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
____________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #1: NEW CD ARRIVALS |
|____________________________________________________|
> = new since last posting
9000 SOUNDS * From weird sound effect to musical scores. BBS-Ready.....$25
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$25
ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$25
CANADIAN SHAREWARE * Nice job by Betacorp on this new shareware CD!....$22
>COMPUTER REFERENCE LIBRARY * Tutorials for popular software packages...$13
>DAY OF THE TENTACLE * Stop the mutated purple tentacle!................$44
DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$34
DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
GARDENING * Complete handbook for the home gardener on ROM!............$13
>L.A. STRIPPERS * R-Rated movie with beautiful girls & rock-n-roll......$49
LAN MASTER * High quality Networking utilities & technical notes.......$27
LEARNING HEAVEN * Mind challenging educational games...................$23
MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A M/M space adventure for Macintosh only........$39
MAC SHAREWARE * A great CD full of current Mac shareware for Mac only..$24
>MAD DOG MCCREE * Great shoot 'em up game with real, full-motion video..$49
>NIGHT OWL 10 * The newest from Night Owl's with 5100 1993 files!.......$29
>PC KARAOKE * Complete Karaoke package with microphone! Great CD sound..$68
PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$75
PROJECT GUTENBERG * Texts from Project Gutenberg for 1991-1993.........$22
>PUBLISHER'S POWERHOUSE * 750 TrueType fonts + 8200 PCX images w/ book!.$33
REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$35
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
>SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * All new files with NO dupes to Night Owl 10!......$25
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN * Great new religious CD w/ several online Bibles.$23
STREET ATLAS v2 * Finally, we have an update with tons of new data!....$95
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: BOB JOHNSTONE Number: 6197
To: CRAIG CASTLEBERRY Date: 10/14/93 10:04p
Subj: GETTIN' IN STEP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> If the truth be know, Fidonet is riddled with Comercial Post. From
> Shareware venders to Modem companys providing Technical Support. To
> Small Business Trying to make a buck. The Most active Echos We have
> From Our Users are the Forsale Echos. I thinks its a mistake for anyone
> to mess with these areas. If Sysops do not want to pay the small amout
There has been some talk in the ZEC echo about ONE echo which supports
software from a company which charges a yearly $60 support fee for responding
in echomail with support. If I owned the company, I would not give support
free to those who do not pay it either. But in the same echo, Sysops answer
questions from those who are using the shareware version, and some support even
comes from the employees. If they took all the echos out of FidoNet that
support commercial enterprises, they would probably pull a hundred or more
echos. I doubt it will happen.
One of the most popular echos on my BBS, read by more users is CFORSALE, that
also is a strictly commercial echo, anyone who does not have a retail business
is not even allowed to post an advertisement in the echo. Any sysop who has a
CDRom online probably reads this echo.
Most of the HUBS in FidoNet have paid for distribution of echos they never
use, which others find of great value. If they all stopped distributing echos
they dont use, it would tie up the backbone so badly a majority of echos would
be lost.
Many in FidoNet accuse others of attempting to "control" echomail, yet some of
those who are nit picky about echos such as this one would be up in arms if
anyone ever threatened to remove one of their favorite echos.
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From: RUSS HUNTLEY Number: 6198
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/14/93 10:20p
Subj: cd Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would appreicate it if you could send me a cd-rom Catalog. thanks alot.
Hungry Farmer BBS
32633 Bush Garden Dr.
Harrisburg, Oregon 97446
(any Questiong Call the Board 1:152/33 or (503)995-8110.
Thank You very Much, I am looking for the best in a shareware cd-rom for a
bbs, any suggestions? ANYONE! is (Night Owl better that Monster Media, Or is
there a difference) I am Running SBBS, With a double speed CD-ROM. Thanks
Russ Huntley (Sprout) :)
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From: RUSS HUNTLEY Number: 6199
To: ALL Date: 10/14/93 10:28p
Subj: trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a trade for THE SEVENTH GUEST OR A "Latest Shareware cd-rom
title" I can trade Aces of pacific, Sherlock Holmes, " I am willing to throw
in ROAD AND TRACK if any one wants either Aces Or Sherlock, They Can have the
R&T also, for THE SEVENTH GUEST, OR ANY OTHER INTERESTING CD-ROM TITLE, ALSO
LOOKING FOR WING COMMANDER 1 THE DELUXE EDITION! LEave any messages to RUss
Huntley, Or call the hungry Farmer bbs (503)995-8110, 1:152/33 Thank You
very much. might be able to throw in some $$$$! Thanks
Russ Huntley
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From: CRAIG SHEPPARD Number: 6200
To: ALL Date: 10/13/93 9:25p
Subj: Wing Cmdr 2/Ult. Undrwrld Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Wing Commander 2/Ultima Underworld CD-ROM for sale.
It has hardly been used at all, and comes with all manuals and reference
cards. (no reg. card)
*****WING COMMANDER 2/ULITMA UNDERWORLD CD --> $45
If interested, and cannot reply here, contact:
Internet: CraigS4557@aol.com
or
Craig Sheppard
74 Colonial Terrace
Bridgeton, NJ 08302-4105
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From: ROB O'DELL Number: 6201
To: REX ROOF Date: 10/14/93 5:38p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> How fast are they??
about 400ms average and 150k transfer rate..
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From: REX ROOF Number: 6202
To: ROB O'DELL Date: 10/14/93 9:17p
Subj: NEC Portable CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So it connects with a standard SCSI CD rom interface?
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 6203
To: MARK CLARDY Date: 10/15/93 12:09a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Sure thing, Max. You should receive a catalog soon. Thank you for
> your interest.
Please add my name also.
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6204
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/15/93 10:12a
Subj: Re: BB II & SHOWOFF Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <10-14-93 10:01> Bob Jackson wrote:
BJ>> The end-user CUSTOMERS will be the big winners here.
We think so ! Sysops will be pleased too.
BJ>> Any chance of getting my copy autographed by thou?
You bet, your disc was sent overnight on Friday (15th)--You will enjoy the
spelling error on the back of the cover (Arrghhhhh.....oh well, makes me
human)--This disc was a labor of love :) Breech........Saturday delivery.
My picture ??? Egads, ! I have 20 pounds more to go, and I promise you one !
But, I get one of yours !
Im anxious for you to play with BB II, it should without a doubt set the
industry standard for licensed collections. For T&A, its going to be a tough
disc to beat.
Now, there are not 150ZZZ Busty women on this disc, just alot of bust
photography (naturally)--Very California done, outdoors, beach, pools, jacuzzi
etc....
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6205
To: TOM HUNT Date: 10/15/93 10:15a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Tim Schooler <10-14-93 21:09> Tom Hunt wrote:
TH>> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 1 so
TH>> valuable
Beastiality, skat(defecation), puke shots, water sports etc--It represents a
total disregard for federal law--No just samplings of the hardcore disciplines,
but directories of these type of things.
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: RUSTY ATKINS Number: 6206
To: ALL DEALERS Date: 10/13/93 5:52p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Just a note to the curious dealers out there. I do not order much in the way
of adult CD's, well, more than most I guess, being a sysop.
The dealers want to wimp-out because of government pressure, well, It
applies to the SysOps also. If you want my business, (and that of many people
I know), you will continue to sell adult materials. We will not knowingly
purchase any computer equipment, software, etc, from a dealer that has quit
selling adult materials. If you want to card us, fine, I have no problem with
that. I'd do it to everyone if it was my business.
We will not frequent trade shows, stores, or anyplace else that has barred
this material. I'm not a pervert, I'm an american. If you wish to give-up the
freedom to run your business as you like, BEFORE things even get hot, feel
free, but I won't be there to support you. I am not willing to support people
who seem to almost LIKE the idea of the government controlling ever aspect of
your life. (what would you say if your MOTHER told you that you shouldn't
touch that stuff? Assuming you are of age, you would probably tell her where
to go.) You can't make the same stand for yourself though, when you are PAYING
someone to tell you the same thing.
Nuff said. If you wish to continue this conversation, please do so by
netmail. (I can be reached at 1:2410/353).
I want to apologize to the moderator for being off-topic, but I feel it is
about time that someone spoke-up about this.
Sincerly,
Rusty Atkins
We now return to our regularly scheduled program.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6207
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/14/93 12:23p
Subj: ADULT CD ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>But I *DO* fit into one of the top 3 male
>fantasies......for real. Think MENSA, and figure it out :)))))
That's EASY - if it wasn't for the excessive political postering, I'd BE in
MENSA (qualified many years ago)....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6208
To: MARK CLARDY Date: 10/14/93 12:24p
Subj: COOL CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Have you looked at
> the game Chess Maniac 5 Billion in 1. I don't believe it is a CD
> game
I sell that CD at $47, shipping included....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6209
To: MARK GREENHAW Date: 10/14/93 12:26p
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: HACKER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Hacker Chronicles can be ordered from Crocodile Computers at (205)477-6176 for
>a cost of $29.00 +S&H.
I sell it at $22 WITH shipping....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6210
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/14/93 12:28p
Subj: CLIPART CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Can someone reccommend a GODD Clipart CD.
Colormagic has gotten a lot of good mentions....
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 6211
To: BILL PEARSON Date: 10/15/93 5:17a
Subj: Re: Night Owl $29 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 11 Oct 93 10:28:00, I heard Bill Pearson shout to Kevin Plummer:
KP> N i g h t O w l 10.0
BP> Please give me a combo price on NO 8,9 & 10.
I don't know about the price for a Package Deal, Please call 1-800-638-5757,
and ask them. Thanks !
......|<evin
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From: KURT ANNO Number: 6212
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 5:11p
Subj: ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am currently looking for a rom drive for my daughter. I want a good drive,
but of course, do not want to spend alot of money. I don't know the difference
from a drive that costs $195 to one that costs $500. Any info would be greatly
appreciated.
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From: KURT ANNO Number: 6213
To: BORIS O. Date: 10/15/93 5:26p
Subj: Rom drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was told by afriend of mine who runs a bbs, Mike Shepard, to contact you
about a cd-rom drive. I want one for my daughter,as well as myself, but I can't
afford a huge sum of money. He told me to mention the Texel drive. Could you
give me some more information on this drive?? He also stated that you may have
an 800#, if so could you leave that as well??
Thanks, Kurt
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From: MARK CLARDY Number: 6214
To: JOHN RICKER Date: 10/15/93 12:16a
Subj: hacker chronicles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello, John. I have noticed that you are looking for the Hacker
Chronicles CD. We sell it at Computer Works for $25.00. We would
ship it 2 Day Priority Mail, and shipping rates are $4.00 for up to 5
CD's, and $0.50 for every CD after the first 5. I hope I have been of
help, and thank you for your time.
Mark
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 671-0092 - BBS
(205) 793-4481 - Voice
SysOp - Jim Lambert CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6215
To: BILL DEERTZ Date: 10/16/93 2:13a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->> Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -S
>> Are both of these Pioneer multiple disc players SCSI format?
>> Are these internal or external?
The answer to the above is yes on both !
Need further information, please feel free to drop us a note via the
fidonet below or call us direct at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be
happy to help you further.
Chat with you soon.....
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6216
To: ERIC SANTELICES Date: 10/16/93 2:13a
Subj: Re: So Much Shareware I & II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I have so much Shareware vol I and II is there a vol III?
>> If so where can I get it?
Have it in stock !!
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy
to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6217
To: KAWAI WONG Date: 10/16/93 2:13a
Subj: Re: Swimwear & MOD CDs needed!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> To all vendors:
>> I am looking for a swimwear GIF CD and a MOD/MIDI/WAV
>> CD for my BBS, but am not sure which one I should get
>> and how much are they. Any help is appreciated. Thanx.
We have a cd called " Soundware " that will give you more sound files
than you'll know what to do with, over 10,000 in all !!
Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and
we'll be happy to assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6218
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 2:13a
Subj: Night Owl 10 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A L L N E W N I G H T O W L 10
* Over 5,100 NEW Files * Over 647 Meg's * No Dupes * Virus Checked
* No Dupes To v9.0 * All Zipped Files * New Viewer * and More !!
The ALL NEW "Night Owl 10 " is here and ready for delievery !! All
programs on this cd were written or updated between Jan 1st and Sept 1st
1993. In fact, 100megs of the total files are from Sept 1993.In addition,
N.O has a mouse driven GUI interface for both DOS and Windows !!
Call Now And Get Your Copy ! - PRICE - $30.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6219
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 2:13a
Subj: Pier 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
************************* P I E R 3 ******************************
New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs
PRICE - $25.00
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130
************************************************************************
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6220
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 2:13a
Subj: CDROM Systems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 6221
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/14/93 3:10p
Subj: info on CD's Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hello Mike!
Monday October 11 1993, Mike Shannon writes to Stean Snyman:
MS> Airmail insured would be $14. Airmail small packet (non-insured) would
MS> be $6.
Ok, thanks.. I'll yell here if I get the money. :)
Adios
Stean
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From: LOIS FRANKEL Number: 6222
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 10/16/93 12:34a
Subj: ratings Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-11-93 20:15 Bob Jackson said something about Review of super smutware,
to which I reply:
BJ> G - Non-nudity you can see most anywhere including "thong"
BJ> bikinis and wet T-shirts.
No PG? I would put thongs and wet t-shirts at "PG." Surely there is a
relevant difference in intended audience between them and, say,
landscapes. (Personally, I prefer the landscapes, but that's another
story...)
... "You summoned me, Captain?" asked Earl Grey, hotly.
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 6223
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/15/93 9:54a
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to Tim Helton, Pat Rickerson said:
PR> great. I am not a dealer just a housewife that tries to find
PR> deals for anyone and everyone here in the bottom of Texas.
Hello, recently I purchased four Hitachi CD ROM Drives and I want to buy four
more, but the guy I bought them from doesn't have any more. These are old
3500/3600 series drives. I have seen prices on these drives anywhere from $60
to $99 each. Can you help me get more of these drives? Thanks in advance for
your help.
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 6224
To: DAVID ROBERTS Date: 10/15/93 10:14a
Subj: 4 CD-Rom Drives 4-Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested for sure. I bought four of them from Terry and I want more,
but he says he can't get anymore. I would like to buy all four. You can
reach me at 804/340-9138. Thanks in advance!
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 6225
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 10/15/93 1:32p
Subj: CD ROM Failure Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This is addressed to Terry Blount, but anyone with experience with Hitachi CD
ROM Drives can reply.
I had a problem with the four drive Hitachi CD ROM Drive setup where the third
drive consistently failed after a couple of minutes of operation. It would
simply say 'file not found' if you did a directory listing. I was looking at
the DOS SETVER Table and noticed that MSCDEX and HITACHI.SYS BOTH appeared in
the Table. Is it possible that my failure was due to my using HITACHIA.SYS
WITHOUT an entry in the DOS SETVER Table? Any other ideas what could cause
the third drive and only the third drive to fail? The third drive was
replaced three times (three DIFFERENT drives) and had the same symptoms with
all three drives. Bought a new HITACHI Interface Card (part# CD-IF18-S) AND
had ANOTHER cable made up. Drive three still failed. Noticed that removing
and reinserting the CD would fix the problem for another couple of minutes.
Replaced CD and Caddy, problem persisted. Moved Drive, controller and cable
to another computer and hooked up drive 3 as drive 1, still failed. Any
ideas?
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From: BRETT PARKER Number: 6226
To: CHET HART Date: 10/15/93 8:42p
Subj: CD-ROM for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chet Hart scribbled in a message to All:
CH> I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM
I have the Comptons Multi Media Encyclopedia that I will be willing to trade,
it is 1991 vintage, and works very well.
--Brett
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From: DAVID TORIX Number: 6227
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/15/93 12:29p
Subj: Order Received Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Thanks for the prompt response Mike. Discs got here today, Thursday.
Dave
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From: ROB MCINTYRE Number: 6228
To: BOBBY WIENHOLT Date: 10/16/93 12:26a
Subj: Cd Rom list 1 of 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gifs Galore for $30 ? Good Luck ! Walnut Creek sells 'em for $24.99 so that's
it's regular price.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6229
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 7:50p
Subj: Review of High Volume Nudes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HIGH VOLUME NUDES
=================
Many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing a copy of
the adult CD High Volume Nudes (HVN) for review. Like all of my
previous reviews, this one is available for FREQing (Node ID:
1:106/30) or downloading (713-589-2690 to 14.4) from file area #22
of the Hard Disc Cafe BBS in Houston, TX . Other boards may carry
them as well - ask your sysop. Guest downloads from The Hard Disc
Cafe are available by using the login ID of CD REVIEW. No password
will be required. The ZIPped file name for this review is HVN.ZIP.
This review contains four major sections: General - Miscellaneous
comments that didn't seem to belong in any other section; Statistics
- some quantitative, measurable characteristics of the CD;
Operations - a more qualitative analysis of the "usability" aspects
of the CD which tries to consider factors of interest to both the
sysop and the end-user; and Visual - a purely qualitative opinion of
the intrinsic qualities of the images themselves. Note that section
boundaries are not inviolate.
To those of you who have read some of my previous reviews of adult
CDs, you will be familiar territory with this one as well. If
you're a "new" reader, let me iterate: I am NOT an expert (whatever
that is) on adult (or any other kind of) CDs. Accordingly, what
follows is ONE PERSON'S OPINION.
General
=======
This CD is a very slickly produced, if somewhat strange adult CD.
It's the product of New Machine Publishing (though the
identification "ROMVLVS Entertainment" (the V's are really U's ergo
"ROMULUS") also appears on the packaging. The jewel case has both
front and back inserts. The folded page of the front insert is a
clip-off registration form. The rear insert (complete with titled
edges - yea!) gives both Macintosh and PC requirements as well as
some copyright warnings, etc.
Interestingly, the Macintosh requirements are simply stated as
"Color Machines Recommended - 8-Bit Minimum - 2MB RAM Minimum" No
processor or OS requirements are listed. The pertinent PC
requirements are given as Windows 3.1, DOS 5.0, 8 or 16 bit video
card, and (get this) "386 Or faster" (sic). Apparently the
producers are no more savvy about compute requirements than Vivid
Digital. As we'll see, even a 386-40 would be minimal; a 386-16
unusable.
The rear insert also claims "500 high quality hardcore photos of
centerfold nudes." IMO, this is numerically correct only.
Statistics
==========
This will take a bit of explanation as I must depart from my usual
format to report my findings. Like Girls of Vivid (GOV), HVN eschews
the GIF format. Instead its publishers have chosen to use the PICT
(.PIC) format from the Apple Quicktime software. Again, like GOV,
HVN has file names like 1.PIC, 2.PIC, etc. Unlike GOV, HVN has NO
file description files at all.
To further complicate matters, HVN has for all practical purposes
replicated its "500 pictures" in two main sub-directories: \HICOLOR
and \LOCOLOR. (In point of fact, I found only 463 .PIC files in HI
and 465 .PIC files in LO.) The \HICOLOR files are, according to the
built-in viewer (see Operations), JPEG compressions of (I'm
guessing) 24-bit images. The \LOCOLOR files are all 8-bit color.
Both \HICOLOR and \LOCOLOR are themselves further divided up into
five sub-directories each. The former's subs are: \DENMARK, \EGYPT,
\UTAH (how'd that get in there?), \YEMEN, and \ZIMBABWE; the
latter's are \ICELAND, \MALAYSIA, \PARAGUAY, \SCOTLAND, and \SWEDEN.
Now before anyone gets excited and supposes that these names
represent the places of origin of the ladies whose likenesses appear
therein, let me say emphatically that I found no visual evidence to
support that interpretation.
In general, these country-named subdirectories are paired across the
HI and LO directories in the order given. For example,
\HICOLOR\EGYPT\20.PIC in 24-bit JPEG (?) is the same image as
\LOCOLOR\MALAYSIA\20.PIC. in 8-bit PIC. While this correspondence
isn't 100% true, it's near enough to make the point moot. (Note: ALL
files in these directories have the .PIC extension. The built-in
viewer indicates JPEG when displaying an image from the \HICOLOR
set.)
As with GOV, there's obviously no need to run HVN's file names
against the "grassroots" GIF name data base - so I didn't.
Operations - Sysop
==================
This is a null topic. As mentioned, there are NO files with image
descriptions in them. Further, the packaging clearly indicates
copyright notices which would seem to preempt any use save personal
viewing. Then there's the matter of the PICT format which, in
general, renders the files useless to anyone without an appropriate
viewer. The overwhelming popularity of the GIF format (as well as
PCX, BMP, and to a lesser extent TIFF and TGA) has suppressed
widespread production or availability of PICT decoders.
Operations - End User
=====================
If you're NOT an Windows 3.1 user and have no intentions or interest
in becoming one, you can stop right here. This is, in PC-land, a
Windows 3.1 ONLY CD if you want/have to use the built-in viewer. The
good news is that installation simply creates a new program group
called (surprise, surprise) "New Machine Publishing" with four icons
inside. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING copied to the HDD (YEA!). The
four icons are for the PICTure viewer, a Quicktime .MOV viewer, a
READ.ME file, and a SAMPLER of other products from the same company.
The bad news (for starters) is that since the PICTure viewer is
setup to run directly from the CD, there's no way to configure it
for individual video setups. Since I run Windows in 800x600x256
mode, trying to view the \HICOLOR images resulted in very poor
results. Using the \LOCOLOR images, the viewer SEEMED to be
defaulting to about 640x480 resolution since I had to select at
least a 50% size reduction to get anything more than the upper left
corner of any image into view without using the elevator bar
(something one does NOT want to do with this product).
More bad news: PICTure viewer is s-s-s-s-s-l-l-l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-w
to say the least. On a 486DX2/66 it took over 15 seconds to decode a
\HICOLOR image and about 5-6 seconds for a \LOCOLOR image.
Comparably sized (i.e. same resolution) GIFs decode on this machine
in about 1-2 seconds from the same CD drive. Granted, GIFs are by
nature smaller files so there's more data to be read when using
other formats. While this poor showing by the PICTure viewer/.PIC
combination is far better than the PICBASE/CTIF combination of GOV,
it still rapidly becomes tedious.
Still more bad news: Aside from the "controls" provided by Windows
itself (e.g. scroll bars, etc.), PICTure viewer adds little in the
way of functionality. For example, there is no provision for
selecting multiple files for a "slide show" (a la WINGIF). Outside
of a very limited "sizing" function with fixed step increments (e.g.
25%, 50%, etc.), there are no image manipulation functions.
The bright side, if there is one, is that the printing function was
fairly decent. It provided a full page image (8-1/2 x 11) in a
nearly usable halftone-looking format at 180x180 DPI resolution on
my BJ-200 ink jet printer. Sadly, even though it apparently tried, I
couldn't get it to print at 360x360 resolution. After about 30
seconds of "work", whatever it handed to Print Manager to print
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6230
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 7:50p
Subj: Review of High Volume Nudes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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>> Continued from previous message <<
didn't result in anything but a rapid exit.
Operations summary: Mediocre functionality and poor performance.
Visual
======
Because of the slow response time from PICTure viewer, I didn't look
at a LOT of HVN's images. Nonetheless, I'm confident that I saw
enough to render some generalizations about the disc as a whole, but
keep in mind that my conclusions are based on a relatively small
sample.
As far as subject matter goes, HVN's images belong in the "Penthouse
centerfold" category. In my own personal rating system, they'd get
an "R" or "Hard R". As far as image quality goes, (and here I speak
of only the \LOCOLOR images for reasons already mentioned) I'd have
to say they're only fair to good. Clearly the original photography
was excellent. However, the transition to electronic form, by
whatever path, resulted in images frequently marred by "blotchy"
areas. That is, areas that were apparently highlighted in the
original photos (like a cheek or forehead) often appear, well,
"blotchy".
In my admittedly small sample, I didn't see any images with more
than one person in it, nor did I see any images with males in them.
There were quite a few images that drew attention to the genital
area, but none that involved any activity other than exhibitionism.
Bottom line: HVN is marginally better than Girls of Vivid, but it's
cut from the same cloth. It pales in comparison to the well-made GIF
CDs. The images are so-so, the interface abysmal - even for Windows.
The viewer's performance is unacceptable on a '486-66 and likely
painful on anything much slower. With licensed GIF collections here
and more on the way, my advice to shoppers would be to give this CD
a high volume "No, thanks!".
... Offline 135 ... is offline, the Wave killed it!
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From: DON NELSON Number: 6231
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/15/93 2:45a
Subj: Star Vector Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Mike,
I see the new catalog no longer has the old style Adult CD's listed. Is Star
Vector moving out of the Adult CD's business, or just to the fully licensed
type disks?
I have not seen any posts that indicate that, but I miss mail (fido screwups)
sometimes.
Do you have any old style CD's still around? (If you are moving toward the
licensed collections.)
Thanks,
.dn
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From: VITO SERVIDEO Number: 6232
To: ALL Date: 10/14/93 9:43a
Subj: For Sale... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have rimfire pacific for sale
24+shipping
Call me at (305)7822631 or leave message
s
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From: BRIAN KURKOWSKI Number: 6233
To: CRAIG CASTLEBERRY Date: 10/14/93 5:33p
Subj: Re: GETTIN' IN STEP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I agree, don't boot off the vendors. I read this particular conference for
current CD-ROM information. The best info so far has come from the vendors. And
keep up the reviews, I for one, appreciate it. The Ismail flames are pretty
amusing too <GR>.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 6234
To: ALL Date: 10/14/93 10:05p
Subj: Netware Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
974 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: RICK SHOAF Number: 6235
To: TOM HUNT Date: 10/16/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TH>I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 1 so valuable
TH>I was looking to pay around 20-30 for it
TH>thanks
I paid about $20 or $25 for my Hot Pix 1. He probably bought it from
NPWC.
Rick
___
X OLX 2.1 X ... Sure when OINK FLAP OINK FLAP.. Well I'll be darned!
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From: MATT DEHAVEN Number: 6236
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 8:47a
Subj: Cd for Sell Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
i got Sherlock home for Sell on cd... a good Game and fun to play
30$ OBO
C-YA
Matt DeHaven
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6237
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 10/14/93 4:02p
Subj: TAX Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF> All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
>Hello Brice. You may want to reconsider the above wording. I know where I
>am, it is not legal to do it that way, even though it makes sense.
It's legal in the state I am in.
>They claim that they are losing money since the tax base is a smaller amount
>when you take it out of the standard price.
"They" are idiots if they think that the "standard" price hasn't been raised by
the retailer(s) in question to reflect the tax charge involved.
>Just something to think about. Hope you don't mind. :)
That's OK - I have seen some states where the point you raise is a problem....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6238
To: RON THOMPSON Date: 10/14/93 4:33p
Subj: MACINTOSH TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am looking for Arthur's Teacher Trouble, and Just Grandma and Me on Cdrom
>for Macintosh.
I can go $85 for the pair, shipping included.
>I was quoted a price of $18.00 on the ATT disk (over the phone from a certain
>nameless company), but, when it arrived, the bill was for $49.00
They likely didn't pick up on the "Macintosh" version or realise that Mac stuff
often costs a LOT more. It the specific case of ATT, the cost to me AS A DEALER
is more than double the cost of the DOS version - almost 2.5 times, to be more
precise. I can only get it from ONE of the distributors I deal with regularly,
as opposed to 3 of them that carry the DOS version.
I also suspect that the $18 quote did NOT include shipping....
> Why not get the prices on Mac Cdroms more in line with those for the IBM?
When Mac titles sell anywhere NEAR as many copies, that will happen - but it's
REAL unlikely with PC-Clones having 10+ TIMES as meny machines in the field....
* SLMR 2.1a * Blame not on Stupidity what is explained by Ignorance.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6239
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/14/93 6:50p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
>A problem exists in Fidoland, and it has just recently come to my attention.
>There exists a Fido policy which basically states that routed Netmail is not
to
>be used for the purposes of transacting any type of commercial business.
It's not part of Policy, but rather appears to be the efforts of a few *Cs
only.
On the other hand, it's not specifically addressed by Policy at all....
>I don't know the status of other dealers in this conference
I'm the Sysop of Star Fleet Battles (see Origin line).
>but for the sake of the
>conference and the echo, let's lay off the Netmail, at least for the purposes
>of conducting business.
Policy specifically points out that NON-ROUTED Net Mail for commercial purposes
is fine, and cited at least one example where that was given as the cure for a
"bombing problem".
>Lastly, I would just like to stress that this IS important, as several zone
>coordinators have petitioned to have CDROM_SALE, COMMERCIAL 4SALE, and various
>other conferences removed from the backbone because of over-commercialization,
>which technically is a violation of Fidonet policy.
Given that at least one of the Backbone sites is a commercial entity, I doubt
that this will happen. It IS a good idea to keep the *C structure "calm and
collected" as much as possible, though....
* SLMR 2.1a * Reading Heinlein, Floyd listening. It don't get better!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6240
To: JERRY MURPHY Date: 10/15/93 12:36p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF> * SLMR 2.1a * ___ ___. ._.. __. ._ _ ___ ._. _.__ _._. .__ _ ._ __.
>This would have been easy to read had it been spelled correctly.
I shall correct this - it was "liberated" from someone else, and I didn't look
at it closely enough.
-.. . -.- ..-. ----. ..-. --
(and BOY did the FCC blow THAT call - I've had an FM rig less than 6 months
out of 20+ years as a Ham!)
.... .. .... ..
--- --.. .-.. .. --. .- - --- .-. -.-- -.-. .-- - .- --.
* SLMR 2.1a * Flying: art of throwing yourself at ground and missing
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6241
To: TIM HELTON Date: 10/15/93 1:38p
Subj: GETTIN' IN STEP Refer: NONE
Read: 10/17/93 8:45p Private: No
>We've ventured outside of the toleration zone. Some vendors are using this
>echo to conduct "one on one" business with their customers - posts that don't
>"benefit everyone". These type messages will no longer be tolerated.
Thank you.
Now if we can just educate a couple of the RC/REC types about Routed
Netmail....
* SLMR 2.1a * No device error attempting to read user's mind....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6242
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 4:30p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Brice's Library
CD-ROM Price List 15 October 1993
5420 N. College Ave., Suite B5
Indianapolis, IN 46220
Tue Thu 11 AM - 8 PM EST
Wed Fri 11 AM - 6 PM EST
(317) 726-1980 voice
(317) 726-1387 BBS
All prices include any applicable Sales Tax
Shipping included to U.S. addresses
19 501 Sound Waves 25 Chessmaster 3000
25 9000 Sounds 24 CIA World Fact Book
30 About Cows 30 CIA World Fact Book (MultiMedia)
30 ADA Programming 15 CICA Windows
20 Adventures of Willy Beamish 30 Classic Clips Trailers
70 Ageis Guardian Fleet 50 Classic Collection+ (4 discs)
58 Air Warrier 29 Clipart Galore
69 Amanda Stories 12 Clip Art Goliath
25 American Business Phone Book '92 15 Clipart Heaven
29 American Business Phone Book '93 30 Coates Art Review: Impressionism
38 American Vista 26 Colormagic Clip Art
60 American Vista (MAC) 12 Colossal Cookbook
35 American Vista Atlas MPC 12 Complete Bookshop
13 America's Premier Shareware 15 Complete Home/Office Legal Guide
15 Anecdotes 35 Composer Quest
22 Animals of San Diego Zoo (DOS) 29 Compton's Family Choice
22 Animals of San Diego Zoo (MPC) 259 Compton's Family Encyclopedia
30 Animation Festival (MPC) 97 Compton's Interactive Encycl.
25 Arthur's Teacher Trouble (MPC) 14 Computer Referance Library
19 Audubon's Birds 30 Conan the Cimmerian (OEM)
19 Audubon's Mammals (MPC) 44 Conan the Cimmerian
60 B17 Flying Fortress 51 Conquest of the Longbow
16 Barney Bear Goes to School 30 Consumer Information Disc
16 Barney Bear Goes to Space 15 Cookbook Heaven
20 Battle Chess (original) 60 Corel Art Show III
25 Battle Chess (enhanced version) 45 Creation Stories
19 Beauty and the Beast 16 Cybergenic Ranger
27 Beyond the Wall of Stars 34 Dagger of Amon Ra
16 Britannica Select Software 25 Danger, Hot Stuff II
10 Business Assistant 60 Dare Bluff or Die!
18 Business Master I 24 Data Base Made Easy
40 Business Phone Directory + ZIPs 12 Deathstar Arcade Battles
26 C User's Group Library 35 Deep Voyage
40 Cameron's Fine Art Catalog 15 Desktop Bookshop
30 Career Opportunities 35 Desktop Publishers Dream Disc
35 CD CAD v3.7 12 Dictionaries and Languages
20 CD Powerbox 40 Dictionary of Living World (OEM)
48 CD ROM Deluxe Pack 35 Digital Tours: World of Flight
20 CD WinBox 35 Digital Tours: World of Trains
47 Chess Maniac 5 Billion 38 Digital Tours: USA Tour
30 Dinosaur Adventure 41 Guy Spy
26 Dinosaurs! (MPC) 22 Hacker Chronicles
20 Dr. Games 13 Ham Radio #3
21 Dr. Music 42 Hamcall
21 Dr. Shareware 30 Heather Hits First Home Run
21 Dr. Windows 16 Hobbes OS/2 Archives
54 Dune 30 Hospitality Index
19 Education Master 20 House of Games
30 Electronic Home Library 45 Indiana Jones & Fate of Atlantis
27 Encyclopedia of Clipart 31 Info-Mac 1993
12 Encyclopedia of Sound 21 Interactive Story Time 1
62 Eric the Unready 21 Interactive Story Time 2
30 European Monarchs 40 Interactive Story Time 3
37 Eye of the Beholder III (OEM) 20 International Business/Econ Atlas
60 Eye of the Beholder III 72 Iron Helix
72 F15 Strike Eagle III 30 J. Schumaker New Prague Cookbook
23 Family Doctor 46 Jazz: A Multimedia History
28 Fantasia Fonts 23 Jets and Props (2 discs) (OEM)
72 Fantasy Feifdom 36 Jets and Props (2 discs)
20 Font Master Two 10 Jokes and Pranks
32 Fonts 1 19 Jones in the Fast Lane
25 Fonts for the Professional Pub. 39 Just Grandma & Me
38 Food Analyst 41 Jutland
70 Four Queens Computer Casino 30 KGB World Fact Book
41 Fractal Ectasy 17 King's Quest 5
30 Fractunes 34 King's Quest 6
30 Fresh Arte 26 Klotski Polish Puzzle
17 Futura: Games that go Beyond 16 Kodak Photo CD Access Software
60 Future Wars 28 Lan Master
10 Game Arena 40 Languages of the World
20 Game Master 2'nd Ed. 10 Learning Adventure
25 Game Pack II 16 Learning Heaven
20 Games Bonanza 40 Libris Britania
24 Games 1993 62 Lord of the Rings
18 Gameware Collection 26 Magazine Rack
15 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac 40 Majestic Places
14 Gardening 25 Mammals (Nat. Geographic)
30 GIFs Galaxy 37 Manhole
15 GIFs Galore 20 Mantis Experimental Fighter
19 Giga Games 26 Mario is Missing w/World Atlas
25 Gigabyte Gold 24 Mavis Beacon Teach Typing (MPC)
95 Global Explorer 25 Mayo Clinic (MPC)
37 Grammy Awards '58-'92 30 McMillan Dictionary for Children
26 Great Cities vol. 1 36 Microprose Collection
26 Great Cities vol. 2 59 Microsoft Bookshelf '93 (MPC)
43 Great Wonders of the World v.1 62 Microsoft Musical Instruments
45 Great Wonders of the World v.2 50 Microsoft Works
66 Grolier's Encyclopedia (Mac) 30 Middle East Diary
41 Grolier's Illustrated Encycl. v5 24 MIDI Music Shop
45 Grolier's MM Encyclo. v1 (MPC) 19 Mixed Up Mother Goose
12 Guiness Disc of Records '91 58 Monarch Notes
15 Guiness Disc of Records '92 32 Money, Money, Money!
12 Guiness Disc of Records '92 (Mac) 29 Monkey Island
26 Guiness Disc of Records '93 (MPC) 27 Monster Media '93
62 Gunship 2000 32 Mother Earth II
16 Mother of All Clip Art 19 Reference Library
16 MPC Wizard 51 Return of the Phantom
25 Multimedia Computor Tutor 46 Return to the Moon
25 National Parks (MultiMedia) 60 Ringworld: Revemge of Patriarch
35 New Basics Electronic Cookbook 30 Roger Ebert Movie Companion
20 Night Owl Business Software 26 Sci-Fi Fantasy
26 Night Owl Graphics 30 Scouting Report '92
25 Night Owl 9 30 Seals of the U.S. Government
31 Night Owl 10 26 Secret of Monkey Island
29 North American Fax Phonebook 26 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
26 North American Indians 11 Selectware
30 Officer's Bookcase 19 Shakesphere
9 Original Shareware 1992 30 Shareware Avalanche
12 Our Solar System 42 Shareware Explorer (4 discs)
18 PC Game Room 40 Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)
28 PC Medic 20 Shareware Galore
24 PC-SIG #12 21 Shareware Gold II
15 PC-SIG World of Games 16 Shareware Heaven
16 PC-SIG World of Windows 27 Shareware 1993
28 Pentominoes 19 Shareware Online #1
19 Peter and the Wolf (MPC) 25 Shareware Online #2
30 Pharmacist Guide to Drugs 13 Shareware Overload
11 Phoenix #3 16 Shareware Studio #2
17 Phoenix #4 18 Shareware Tiger
75 Phonedisc USA Business 15 Sherlock Holmes
70 Phonedisc USA Residential 20 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #1
25 Pinacotheca Multimedia 52 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #2
30 Pixel Garden 56 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Detect. #3
33 Pixel Perfect Graphics 15 Simtel 20
30 Plant Doctor 26 Sleeping Beauty (MPC)
29 Playing with Languages English 29 So Much Screenware
29 Playing with Languages French 16 So Much Shareware
29 Playing with Languages German 16 So Much Shareware #2
29 Playing with Languages Italian 22 So Much Shareware #3
29 Playing with Languages Japanese 26 So Much Space
29 Playing with Languages Spanish 36 Software Jukebox
19 Powerpack Gold 3 (update) 16 Software Vault #2
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 6243
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 4:30p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: MICHEL LABELLE Number: 6244
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 6:42p
Subj: Catalogs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Distributors!
Please send your catalogs to
Michel Labelle
32 St-Dominique
Hull, Quebec
Canada
J9A-1A2
I'm really excited about this so send-em fast.
NOTE: This message does not deserve a reply. Such action would no doubt cause
a $*^NO CARRIER
... Down with virii! Practice safe Hex!
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6245
To: TOM HUNT Date: 10/15/93 5:17a
Subj: Hot Pix 1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TOM- I HAVE THESE CD'S FOR $ 99.00 PLUS $ 5.00 SHIPPING. $ 104.00 TOTAL
FAX # 1-602-292-0497
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 6246
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 8:54p
Subj: Lotus 1-2-3 for $50 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have Lotus 1-2-3 for windows, version 1.2 on CD for $50
This is the version before 4.0(current)... they skipped a
lot of numbers to make it even with the DOS version. Still
a great program. You cannot beat the price of $50 for it!
Might be willing to trade for other CD's....
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: BOB CENTERBAR Number: 6247
To: JOE REYNOLDS Date: 10/15/93 9:47p
Subj: Adult CDs wanted for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-10-93 JOE REYNOLDS wrote to ALL...
JR> I am interested in purchasing some adult cds to run with my BBS. Does
JR> anyone know of any titles and where I can get them.
JR>
I have a used copy of Giffy Gold that I'll sell for $30.00 obo. This
CD is BBS approved, for the lack of a better word, as all scans are
original Giffy Enterprises scans of amateur models. The best way I
can describe the scan is there in the "girl next door" type format.
If your interest reply here or netmail.
Later...Bob
... OFFLINE 1.50 "I can't be wrong; my modem is error-correcting."
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From: BOBBY POSEY Number: 6248
To: BOB ROSOL Date: 10/15/93 7:46a
Subj: Corel ArtShow 3 CD & Book Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: LARRY FOSTER Number: 6249
To: ADRIAN VERGOT Date: 10/15/93 1:05p
Subj: Re: Custom CD-ROM $75 ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey looking to send you some business. Give me a call at 817-756-5868..
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6250
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/17/93 6:39p
Subj: NO10 VS PIER 3 Refer: 9601
Read: NO Private: No
-> >Not so sure about Night Owl 11, with the pending six-figure
-> >damage settlement hanging over Richard Graham's head.
->
-> ???
->
-> I had NOT heard about this....
Do tell...
tim
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6251
To: PAUL CHATFIELD Date: 10/17/93 8:49p
Subj: Queer Refer: 9627
Read: NO Private: No
-> international echo...not to mention the fact that I and others actual
-> pay for the mails we get...I pay $1.50 a minute!! and I dont expect t
-> off topic drivel to boot! Kindly take you abuse and feelings elsewher
-> like netmail direct or voice!....to the moderator...sorry for the rep
-> this king of thing p's me something shocking...I poll from Singapore
-> for this...and I hope this doesnt happen again!
Hey Paul...
And that's the basic problem with FidoNet: The people who control the
echos (moderators) don't pay for it's distribution. Until there's a way
for a moderator to *pay* for an echo's distribution, this problem ain't
going away. The ?C's are right on the "I pay for it" thingy.
I'm currently looking into methods/schemes that will allow me to pay for
CDROM_SALE's distribution. Until I can do that, this echo's "direction"
will have to be within the confines of what's fair to those who pay for
everything... There's no way around that.
HOW one pays for an echo's distribution is the big unknown. It would be
impossible to pay everyone direct - too many people. There's no
money "pool" I can contribute to either. Tell me *how* I can pay for
this echo's distribution and I'll spit out answers to all of the
questions.
There's new technology that *might* provide a clue - services like
Planet Connect which allows you to transmit the backbone and filebone
(and other things) via satellites (a mailer, $400.00 satellite dish,
$200.00 receiver, and a $40.00/month subscription fee - that to *get*
stuff from the satellites. I want to *send* stuff to the satellites
that other people can *get*)... Maybe something related to satellite
transmissions will allow me to pay for this echo's distribtion, but
right now: dunno.
BTW, effective immediately, I'll begin piping this echo into areas
where it's not currently available - places like Australia and some
areas of the far east... I'll make this announcement in the CDROM echo,
as it wouldn't do any good to announce it here |).
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6252
To: WYATT WOLFE Date: 10/17/93 8:51p
Subj: gettin' in step Refer: 9651
Read: NO Private: No
-> Not a vender first off... but is there not in fact a C_forsale
-> (commercial for sale) echo, sponsered by FIDO.. If not, just wonderin
-> any time I put any of my personal info in it, the moderator says its
-> home sales.. so in fact, this makes your statement of FIDO rules sayi
-> "Commercial Advertising is not allowed in FIDO inacurate... I am not
-> pulling this outta the blue.. I pay for my echos like most.. and have
-> C_FORSALE echo from the get go.. would it not be in FIDO's best intr
-> direct the misled to the right echo, then to ban them from them all?
Commercial advertising is *tolerated* in FidoNet, not allowed. If you
have a mailer installed freq POLICY (usually POLICY.ARC) from one of
your echo coordinators...
FidoNet toleration ends when the "one on one" messages begin. The folks
who pay for the distribution of fido mail shouldn't be expected to
subsidize a dealer's business, so when they voice their exceptions to an
echo's content, it's usually for a good reason: They pay for it....
And there's talk (perpetual talk) about yanking CFORSALE (and others)
from the backbone. Again, the key word is toleration. When an echo
exits the toleration zone, it runs the risk of being yanked off the
backbone - yanking that severely complicates its distribution...
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6253
To: BOB JOHNSTONE Date: 10/17/93 9:03p
Subj: GETTIN' IN STEP Refer: 9657
Read: NO Private: No
-> comes from the employees. If they took all the echos out of FidoNet
-> support commercial enterprises, they would probably pull a hundred or
-> echos. I doubt it will happen.
That's true, but it's possible. 2 Reasons:
1. POLICY4 prohibits commercial advertising.
2. The folks who route fido mail take it *very* seriously...
Everybody takes something seriously and FidoNet is their thang.
That's fair enough & I respect it.
#1 is used as justification to meet some end resulting from the effects
of #2.
-> Most of the HUBS in FidoNet have paid for distribution of echos they
-> use, which others find of great value. If they all stopped distribut
-> they dont use, it would tie up the backbone so badly a majority of ec
-> be lost.
That's the moderator's argument and it's equally valid.... Again, (from
the previous messages) it boils down to a moderator's inability to pay
for his/her echo's distribution.
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6254
To: RUSTY ATKINS Date: 10/17/93 8:54p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target Refer: 9666
Read: NO Private: No
-> I want to apologize to the moderator for being off-topic, but I feel
-> about time that someone spoke-up about this.
Apologize? Hell, I agreed with everything you said...
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6255
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/17/93 8:45p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL Refer: 9699
Read: NO Private: No
-> On the other hand, it's not specifically addressed by Policy at all.
That's not true. POLICY4 is pretty definitive about the amatuer nature
of FidoNet and how this relates to commercial ventures. You're 100%
right about the overzealousness of some *C's... The POLICY4 verbage is
their ammo.
Tell me how I can pay for the distribution of this echo.
tim
moderator
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From: JEFF JENKINS Number: 6256
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 7:11a
Subj: Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can Kodak photo CD pictures be converted to the .GIF format or viewed with any
other software?
anyone...?
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6257
To: MARCIAL MORENO Date: 10/15/93 8:56p
Subj: Nightowl 10 is here Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MM> Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $26.00ea
MM> Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $26.00ea
Don't expect to make a bunch of friends in here by selling these. They
were probably the most complained-about titles I had in the short time
I carried them.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6258
To: JARED MARTIN Date: 10/15/93 8:56p
Subj: COOL CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>I've been looking at a game called BattleChess
>>Enhanced...anyone ever heard or seen it? Thanks...
We have it in stock at $32. Standard edition is $25.
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6259
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/15/93 8:56p
Subj: NO10 VS PIER 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>>Not so sure about Night Owl 11, with the pending six-figure
BF>>damage settlement hanging over Richard Graham's head.
BF> I had NOT heard about this....
Yep. And after that trial is over, there are others waiting in the wings,
including the originator of the CARRS CD's, who apparently feels he was
somewhat "abused" in his business dealings with Richard. But this is
just what I've heard through the grapevine, so take it for what it's
worth.
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6260
To: JIM COYLE Date: 10/15/93 8:56p
Subj: NO10 vs Pier 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>Will you give me the same deal? I heard Night Owl v10 was $25 from Free
JC>Spirit. 1-800-638-5757 is their phone if you wanna call and verify. I'd
give
JC>you $20 in a second for Pier 3.
Well, I did call at the request of a customer, and the lady who answered
quoted me $29. Also, here is the latest copy of their ad that I've seen:
Date: 10-11-93 (05:22) Number: 20
From: KEVIN PLUMMER Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: Night Owl $29 Conf: (48) CDROMSA
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N i g h t O w l 10.0
******************************************************************
********* *********
*********** ***********
********* $ 29.00 Each *********
*********** ***********
********* *********
*********** ------------------ ***********
********* 1-800-638-5757 *********
Sooooooooo............., if you want to do it based on this price, give me
a call!
JC>And could you tell me about the Night Owl? The damage settlement, I mean. I
JC>haven't heard anything about that.
Well, it's all second-hand information, but from what has been relayed to
me by sources who attended the trial, Richard is staring at a six-figure
damage settlement that falls just short of half a million. It was filed by
the programmer who wrote his original interface system (NIGHT.EXE), and
apparently the claim is that he's never received the royalties he was
due from the sale of the CD's. The people I've spoken to do play a part
in the trial, and from what the attorney's have told them, it's pretty
much open and shut. Again, this is only hearsay, but I have every
reason to trust the parties involved DO know what they're talking about.
Another potential snag here for Night Owl's is that they apparently never
bothered to register the Night Owl's trademark. If they had, they might
have learned that the Federal Trademark for this name is owned by a
company called Night Owl Tobacco. The next few months should be very
interesting as to the future of Night Owl's CD's, so stay tuned!
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6261
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 8:56p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
____________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
|____________________________________________________|
_______________________________ _________________
| | | |
| Title: PIER 3 | | Price: $39 |
|_______________________________| |_________________|
>>> IT'S HERE! <<<
The wait is over! Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
industry has just released their latest disc: The Pier Shareware 3.
Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
great user interfaces. To put it simply folks, if you are looking
for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
Pier 3 is the CD you need. You will not find a better organized,
more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!
* 628mb total
* Separate <ASP> directory.
* 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
* Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
which is 300% faster than previous versions!
* All files have been scanned for viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN.
* GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
* Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
* Most current files on the market. Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!
- DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -
File stats for Pier 3:
92 File % Apx 'K' % 93 File % Apx 'K' %
== ==== ===== ======== ===== == ==== ===== ======== =====
1 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 1 5 0.1% 1,708 0.3%
2 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 2 6 0.1% 1,066 0.2%
3 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 3 47 1.0% 5,508 0.9%
4 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 4 501 11.0% 70,354 11.2%
5 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 5 693 15.2% 94,210 15.0%
6 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 6 1,244 27.4% 164,183 26.1%
7 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 7 1,054 23.2% 156,138 24.8%
8 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 8 572 12.6% 79,892 12.7%
9 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 9 421 9.3% 55,188 8.8%
10 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 10 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
11 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 11 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
12 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 12 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
---- ----- -------- ----- ---- ----- -------- -----
0 0.0% 0 0.0% 4,543 99.9% 628,247 99.8%
==== ===== ======== ===== ==== ===== ======== =====
That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!
2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
3-CD SET: Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75
>>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
>>> DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE! <<<
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6262
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 8:56p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
________________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS |
|________________________________________________________|
1. Night Owl 7.0 2. Night Owl 8.0 3. Southern Beauties
Night Owl 8.0 Night Owl 9.0 Digital Dreams
Night Owl 9.0 Night Owl 10 Amateur Models
------------- ------------ --------------
$59 $69 $85
4. Night Owl 9.0 5. Night Owl 10 6. Pier 2
Night Owl 10.0 Pier 3 Pier 3
-------------- ------ ------
$49 $59 $59
7. Software Vault 1 8. Empire Clipart 9. Night Owl 10
Software Vault 2 Clipart Heaven Pier 3
Software Vault Gold Ency. of Clipart Software Vault Gold
------------------- ---------------- -------------------
$57 $59 $79
10. CD Winbox 11. Giga Games 12. Mac Shareware
Windows 93 Game Arena Garbo DOS/Mac
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$44 $35 $35
13. Fantazia Fonts 14. OS/2Box 15. Shareware Online 1
Fontmaster 2 CD Powerbox Shareware Online 2
Too Many Typefonts CD Winbox So Much Shareware 3
------------------ --------- -------------------
$49 $49 $69
PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6263
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/16/93 7:04a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG PAGE 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RONALD- My Fax number is 1-602-292-0497
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From: CARL JOHNSON Number: 6264
To: CHET HART Date: 10/10/93 9:40a
Subj: CD-ROM for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CH> I'm willing to trade the adult CD-ROM "Legends of Porn
CH> 2" for a text or multimedia encyclopedia of 1991 vintage or
CH> later. I'm not interested in any games.
Chet,
I have a new, unopened copy of The Software Toolworks Multimedia
Encyclopedia that I would trade you. I believe it is the 1992 edition.
I will try to reach you by voice this evening, or you can call my board at
412-771-9218. FIDO 1:129/133
Thanks.....
Carl
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From: GREG STERLING Number: 6265
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/16/93 5:17p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR>Hello Greg!
PR>12 Oct 93, Greg Sterling writes to All:
GS> INTERESTED IN BUYING OR TRADING FOR BUSTY BABES 1 CD. LET
PR>ME KNOW IF
GS> YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A DEAL. (I HAVE A LOT OF BASEBALL AND
PR>HOCKEY CARDS IF
GS> INTERESTED.)
PR>Have it but need a 14.4 modem or simms
PR>Pat
PAT,
DO YOU WANT A 14.4 MODEM IN TRADE FOR THE CD? I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.
ALSO, PARDON MY IGNORANCE, BUT WHAT'S A SIMMS?
GREG
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 6266
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 8:18a
Subj: CD-ROM Disks for Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-ROMS for Sale
Magazine Rack $15
Romware Vol 2 No 2 Windows $10
Top 101 Multimedia Shareware $12
Sherlock Holmes on Disk $19
CD-ROM Premier $14
Time Almanac 1990 $19
Toolworks US Atlas and Automap $24
Toolworks World Atlas $24
IBM Ultimedia Tool Series Multimedia Sampler CD $19
Novell Network Support Encyclopedia $69
Made in the USA - Fourth edition $19
Open to reasonable offers on multiple purchases
Plus shipping - $2.90 for one to five disks
free if you order more than five
Gene Ehrich P.O. Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209
■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Can you imagine conning eight cats into pulling a sled?
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From: BRIAN KURKOWSKI Number: 6267
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 6:45p
Subj: CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To all vendors:
Please send your latest catalog to :
Flynn Wilson
Charter Industries Inc.
1041 Johnnie Dodds Blvd.
Mt. Pleasant, SC 29464
I am interested in a bunch of software.
Posted by request of my boss, several states away. This conference does not
echo in his area. Thanks.
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From: PIERRE PROULX Number: 6268
To: VINCE SORENSEN Date: 10/15/93 7:54p
Subj: Night Owl v.10 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Vince!
How much are you selling the N.O. v.10?
Waiting for a reply.
Thanks
Pierre Proulx
* WCE 1.10/2051 * J'ai un probleme de clavier Canadien Francais .
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6269
To: BILL PEARSON Date: 10/16/93 9:07a
Subj: Night Owl's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BP> Doug, can you give me a package price for Nightowl 8, 9 & 10?
BP>
Sure....give me a call voice at 615-339-0235 and I will give ya one.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6270
To: RON DWIGHT Date: 10/16/93 9:10a
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RD> That wasn't a nasty message and the reason it was sent
RD> was because my order had not arrived. Let's get some FACTS
RD> straight here Doug:-
Yes...that is an excellent idea. Let's get the FACTS straight here Ron, not
your made up version of them.
RD> 1) My order was placed on 17th August and read, presumably by you,
RD> on the 19th of august.
Yes...that is correct.
RD> 2) On the 6th of september you published a new price list.
As I usually do on about a weekly basis. Prices are in effect at the time they
are ordered.
RD> 3) My order was not dealt with until 25th of September.
That is correct. I have explained this about 3 times now. I obviosly have to
again. It isn't sinking in. I read your message and then just plain forgot to
get to it again. I get many messages daily on the BBS and it is easy to miss
one. I usually have to read messages in passing and I usually get back to them
later on if they need replies or service. I just happened to miss getting back
to yours. It was not a normal blunder that often occurs nor was it I didn't
care about your order. I just got busy and made a normal human error. When
you reminded me of it BTW, by swearing at me on my BBS, I promptly apologized
for it, very nicely I might add, and promptly sent your order to you and you
had it 3 days later.
RD> As an aside to this, I think you will find that YOU are
RD> REQUIRED, under laws dealing with mail order, to inform the
RD> customer if the order cannot be filled within 30 days, when the new
RD> shipping date will be and offer cancellation of order. This did NOT
That is correct if you are in the US. I would have been happy to allow you to
cancel your order. You did not request to do so, so your point is invalid. I
also stated that I missed getting back to you, so your point of letting you
know what is going on within 30 days is applicable, but I think all can see
what the story is here. If you had called me back 2 weeks after you had placed
your order and reminded me, it would have also gone out within 3 days. I
apologized for making a mistake about 10 times now, and have also explained to
you about 10 times now that it is rare that something like this happens, but
once in a great while happens to all vendors, and just not me.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6271
To: RON DWIGHT Date: 10/16/93 9:23a
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Continuing my response:
RD> 4) As the order was late, you shipped it out, PARTIALLY filled,
RD> EXPRESS MAIL.
Yes....you ordered 5 Adult discs. I had 4 of the 5. You were already steamed
because your order was late. I had no intention of waiting another week till
that one particular title came back into stock and also letting you continue to
bad mouth and flame me because your order hadn't showed up.
As to the EXPRESS MAIL, that is the way most customers overseas like to get
their orders. On multiple disc orders, there is little difference betweem
Express Mail and Air Parcel Post, and Express Mail is the usual desired choice.
You DID NOT SPECIGY what method of shipping you wanted.
If you want to debate this, I will be glad to post your message for all to see
who is right.
RD> Shipping out the customers order, because of YOUR error,
RD> at THE CUSTOMER's ADDITIONAL expense is an intolorable business
RD> practice. Do you see NOW why I am more than slightly annoyed? Do
RD> you believe NOW that it's justified? If not, then feel free to
RD> delay other people's order and then stick them with a $25,-
RD> shipping fee and see how long you stay in business.
Here is where you continue to not state the FACTS, which doesn't surprise me.
Like I stated above, Express Mail is usually chosen by most, and you can't
complain about it since you didn't bother to tell me what method you wanted.
All shipping charges are paid by the customer. That is standard business
practice. If I had shipped it by ground, which is the cheapest, you would have
really bitched, because it takes 30 days or longer to get there. And, NO, you
have no right to contiue to be annoyed,as I have filled my end of the bargain.
A $25 shipping charge is normal for overseas orders to get them insured if you
happen to order 4-5 discs and to get them in a reasonable amount of time. So,
your argument regarding the Express Mail is hot air.
RD> P.S. I notice that the 5th CD, which was ordered, was advertised
RD> in your price list published on 6th of September AND in the last
RD> price list published, but still hasn't been shipped.
Yes, I normally have it in stock. As I explained earlier, it wasn't at the
time of shipment. You assume that I have it on backorder and intend on
shipping it. I left you a note with your order that you got that I was NOT
backordering it for you since it would cost you a fortune in shipping costs for
one CD. I would recommend you buy it elsewhere the next time you order
something. I have treated you more than fairly and you continue to harrass me.
Please go harrass someone else, since you obviously enjoy it. I try to put
all my customers first and do whatever I can when they also treat me fairly in
return and often when they don't.
You have continued to be obstinate and obnoxious, and I don't need that kind of
business.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6272
To: NATHANIEL BRITTS Date: 10/16/93 9:41a
Subj: wanted cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ok...Manpower for $25 it is.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6273
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/16/93 12:23p
Subj: Wanted: Bible Cde Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL> Isn't the Bible Library an old 1988 disk or have
RL> they come out with a new
RL> version? What year is the copyright? Does it come
RL> in a windows version?
RL> I'm interested...thanks.
RL> Ron
It is the original Ellis Bible Library. I imagine it may have been out since
that long. I have been selling CDs now for about 2-1/2 years and it has been
out all this time. There is a new version out that has 16 versions of the
Bible versus the 9 on this one...however, it is also around $300 versus the 20
some dollars for the original one. The 20 some dollar one does not come with a
windows version. I have only read about the more expensive one. None of my
several distributors I buy from carries the new one, so I haven't actually seen
it.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6274
To: TIM HELTON Date: 10/16/93 12:52p
Subj: ron dwight Refer: NONE
Read: 10/18/93 10:44a Private: No
I want to take a moment to apologize to Tim and the rest of the members of this
echo for having to read all this garbage from and to Mr. Ron Dwight.
Tim, I settled with this guy and he just won't leave it to rest. Would you
please send the gentlemen an official warning to please take this discussion to
netmail or cease and desist as noone wants to read all this garbage. The
gentleman is now becoming very annoyiung and obnoxious.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6275
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/16/93 1:04p
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR> person know the money was in the mail. Could you
PR> please tell how and where I make replys, any help
PR> would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife
Replies should be sent by netmail. That way only the sender has to pay for
them.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6276
To: BILL DEERTZ Date: 10/16/93 1:07p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BD> Are both of these Pioneer multiple disc players
BD> SCSI format? Are these
BD> internal or external?
The two units you mention are SCSI units. They are external units that weigh
about 19 pounds each. We sell the 600A for a cash price of $689 delivered in
the USA.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6277
To: JOHN RICKER Date: 10/16/93 1:10p
Subj: Getting into the Business Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I would go about getting
JR> into the CD-ROM business (sell the CD's).. I would appreciate any
JR> information that you could provide..
You could start with FAYE at Tradeshows. She carries most of the popular
titles. You can leave her a message at 317-651-1223. Tell her Doug Carpenter
sent ya. You will need to probably get a business license and a state tax
stamp to deal with some vendors. Also, you would benefit by getting a merchant
account, although you'll have to shop around, as not all banks like mail order
businesses.....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6278
To: JOE REYNOLDS Date: 10/16/93 1:12p
Subj: Adult CDs wanted for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR> I am interested in purchasing some adult cds to run with my BBS. Does
JR> anyone know of any titles and where I can get them.
Give us a call at 615-339-0235. We have several reasonably priced CDs for BBS
use.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6279
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/16/93 1:14p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL> This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-like
RL> dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely
There you are wrong. If it wasn't for moderation, people would go crazy. There
is enough of it going on even with a moderator.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6280
To: ERIC SANTELICES Date: 10/16/93 1:16p
Subj: So Much Shareware I & II Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ES> I have so much Shareware vol I and II is there a vol III?
ES> If so where can I get it?
There sure is. It is in stock at PCJ for $26.95 plus shipping. Give us a call
at 800-547-7817 to order or 615-339-0235 for further discussion.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6281
To: ERIC SANTELICES Date: 10/16/93 1:17p
Subj: Latest Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ES> What is the latest SHAREWARE CD-ROM on the market.
ES> I want one that was produced with in the last 6
ES> mon. I would also like it to support FILES.BBS
ES> description structures.
ES>
ES> Any suggestions?
ES>
ES> EricS.
We have Nightowl 10 that just came out for $28.95 and in stock. It has a
Files.BBS in each directory and is all '93 with a majority of files in the last
6 months. 800-547-7817 to order.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6282
To: STEVE EVERLEY Date: 10/16/93 1:19p
Subj: Telephone Directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SE> Looking for the most up to date and complete CD
SE> containing the telephone numbers for EVERYONE in
SE> the U.S. I understand that someone has a set of
SE> about 6-8 cd's that is real good. I have seen one
SE> that is 2-CD's. I guess it is OK but definately
SE> not very complete.
SE>
SE> Can any one help me..
SE>
We have the latest Mid-Year Prophone for $95. It contains 6 residential and 1
business disc for names and numbers all over the US. Give us a call at
800-547-7817 to order.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6283
To: TOM HUNT Date: 10/16/93 1:21p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TH> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes
TH> Hot Pix 1 so valuable
TH> I was looking to pay around 20-30 for it
TH> thanks
I doubt you'll find Nix-Pix aka Hot Pix 1 for $20-30. It contains beastiliaty
and lots of other gross things, and is also against federal law to run on a BBS
or ship across state lines. Most dealers won't risk getting their business
shut down or their BBS closed because of it.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6284
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/16/93 1:28p
Subj: NICE TRYe Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> I wonder if you realize that calls to an 800-line can be traced. Be
MS> chatting with you soon.
I don't think most people know that. I get a printed list every month who
called mine.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6285
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/16/93 1:32p
Subj: NEW CDROM arrivals at PCJ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MH> Doug,
MH> Do you have the complete address for Sexy Cd Software?
MH> I need it if you do, thanks.
I read a message from Lee that company name is actually bogus. I would say she
is right. I bought some Hot Pix 2 CDs from them at $50 each about a year and a
half ago. The 800# I called was an ordering service. I don't remember the
guy's name I talked to anymore, but he is out of California I believe it is
that actually owns the business I believe.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6286
To: BILL PEARSON Date: 10/16/93 2:11p
Subj: Night Owl $29 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP> N i g h t O w l 10.0
BP> Please give me a combo price on NO 8,9 & 10.
BP> --- FreeMail 1.09
$67 for the three and their yours......in stock.
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From: SERGIO MASCARENHAS Number: 6287
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/15/93 1:44p
Subj: My Order Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi, Mike!
SM>Did you receive my orders? I didn't receive any feedback.
MS>I did indeed, Sergio! Thanks very much, but I didn't find you in my
>customer database! Looked high and low for all my customers in Brazil
>and couldn't come up with anything. Please either fax or mail me your
>shipping address and card number so I can process the order for you.
Ok! No problem! I'll send a fax to you.
What's your netmail address? I sent a order to you in 1:3407/101
(crashmail) about 3 weeks ago.
Thanks,
Sergio
Note to Moderator: Sorry, but I didn't have another way to
contact Mike. This is the last "one on one"
business message that I send.
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From: ED YEE Number: 6288
To: TERRY YAN Date: 10/16/93 9:05p
Subj: oh yeah Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TY> hey ed how's it going??? It's me ( you know ) hmm
TY> boy is that socail every hard eh? OH well the jays
TY> won!! kewl!!!
TY> c-ya at school
Hey, Terry, I know, we're off topic here. Lets move to private e-mail at tech
talk or the Calgary echo. I don't want to upset anymore people.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: RASCAL BBS [Calgary, Alberta - (403)686-2550] (1:134/122)
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From: ED YEE Number: 6289
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 9:25p
Subj: sorry Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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* Origin: RASCAL BBS [Calgary, Alberta - (403)686-2550] (1:134/122)
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 6290
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/16/93 10:08p
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi Mike,
> Which title was it? Maybe we have it in stock.
Now here seems to speak a man going AFTER business. I like it and so
should others. It was "Adult reference library".
Please do what you can to get a mailer up Mike, it will make life a
LOT easier for you, at least from those technically "aware" <grin>.
Thanks for asking about the disc, this IS the way business should be
done.
Cheers,
--- GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: Smile, it makes people wonder what you're thinking. (2:220/22)
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 6291
To: TOM HUNT Date: 10/16/93 10:10p
Subj: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom,
> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 1 so
> valuable I was looking to pay around 20-30 for it thanks
It was (is) banned in several states as well as several European
countries. It contains bestiality amongst other things and is better left
alone unless you have a strong stomach.
Cheers,
--- GEcho 1.01+
* Origin: Smile, it makes people wonder what you're thinking. (2:220/22)
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From: DAVID FORD Number: 6292
To: KELLY KIMBALL Date: 10/16/93 12:25a
Subj: Re: AutoCAD CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have seen a few things in cadence magazine. Most are dxf's. I have also
seen some in Video Toaster Magazine. Problem is that they're around 400 bucks.
ohch!! Anyhow, I do 3d rendering but It's too expensive to get things to work
with.
--- CNet XFIDO 2.63
* Origin: Powerstation BBS* Grand Prairie,Tx. 214-606-0327 (1:124/6302)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 6293
To: ROBERT MOORE Date: 10/16/93 10:33p
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Robert!
Friday October 15 1993, Robert Moore writes to Pat Rickerson:
RM> * In a message originally to Tim Helton, Pat Rickerson said:
PR>> great. I am not a dealer just a housewife that tries to find
PR>> deals for anyone and everyone here in the bottom of Texas.
RM> Hello, recently I purchased four Hitachi CD ROM Drives and I want to buy
RM> four more, but the guy I bought them from doesn't have any more. These are
RM> old 3500/3600 series drives. I have seen prices on these drives anywhere
RM> from $60 to $99 each. Can you help me get more of these drives? Thanks
RM> in advance for your help. -+- FMail 0.96Γ + Origin: BestDealBBS, Va.
RM> Beach, Va. USA 804/340-4457,-3498,-1250 (1:275/47)
Did you get those from a guy in Hawaii? If not there is a guy there selling
four. I have seen a lot of them lately on the echo, all I do is just keep up
with who is selling what. If I hear any thing will let you know.
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice - Your Traveling On Thin Ice! (512) 939-7572 (1:160/9)
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON Number: 6294
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/16/93 9:07p
Subj: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> TH>> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix 1 so
> TH>> valuable
> Beastiality, skat(defecation), puke shots, water sports
> etc--It represents a total disregard for federal law--No
> just samplings of the hardcore disciplines, but directories
> of these type of things.
I have this. How valuable is it ???!?!?
Enquiring minds want to know !
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* Origin: From the Heart of Byron, NY (1:2613/482)
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From: KAWAI WONG Number: 6295
To: ROB O'DELL Date: 10/17/93 1:48a
Subj: Nec Portable Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
-> JL> Rob, How about a phone number so we can talk turkey. I might JL> be
-> interested
->
-> 313-289-2819... $99.00 firm. 30 day warranty.
->
-> ---
-> * Origin: Fast Eddie's BBS - Node 1 Monroe, MI [313-243-0944] (1:2380/101)
How many do you have left?? and will it work with Trantor 130B SCSI
controller?? Thanx.
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* Origin: MicroSolutions BBS - (615) 868-3163 USR v.32bis (1:116/109)
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From: KAWAI WONG Number: 6296
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/17/93 1:54a
Subj: Re: Swimwear & MOD CDs ne Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@ORIGIN :MicroSolutions BBS-(615) 868-3163 USR v32b/v42b (1:116/109) N
-> >> To all vendors:
->
-> >> I am looking for a swimwear GIF CD and a MOD/MIDI/WAV >>
-> CD for my BBS, but am not sure which one I should get >> and how
-> much are they. Any help is appreciated. Thanx.
->
-> We have a cd called " Soundware " that will give you more sound files than
-> you'll know what to do with, over 10,000 in all !!
That sounds good, but do you have any suggestions on the swimwear GIFs CD??
Also, can you give me a special deal on Night Owl 10+"Soundware"+a swimwear
CD?? Thanx.
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* Origin: MicroSolutions BBS - (615) 868-3163 USR v.32bis (1:116/109)
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From: CRAIG SHEPPARD Number: 6297
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 10/14/93 8:44p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB>BBS Ready
SB>~~~~~~~~~
SB>* 9,000 SOUNDS (8/93, Shareware): MIDI, MOD, ROL, VOC, WAV, $24.00
SB> CMF, CMS, CAKEWALK & more
Sam,
I may be interested in this CD, but could you give me a
description of what the file descriptions are like on the CD?
Are they short like..."WAV file" or are they decent, like "A
good WAV file of...."
Thanks,
Craig in South Jersey
Internet: CraigS4557@aol.com
* SLMR 2.1a * Press any key to continue or any other key to quit
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* Origin: Algorithms Inc BBS ~ Bridgeton NJ ~ 609-451-7950 (1:266/76)
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 6298
To: BOBBY WIENHOLT Date: 10/16/93 9:40a
Subj: Re: Cd Rom list 3 of 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BW> Guiness Disc of Records 1993 $40
Would you be interested in trading an original Busty Babes for the above
disk and a Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia? If so, give me a call at
808-624-1293.
... Just what do they teach training bras anyway?
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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* Origin: The Homeboy Shopping Network - 808-624-1294 (1:345/23)
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From: MICHAEL TURNER Number: 6299
To: JOE REYNOLDS Date: 10/15/93 2:35p
Subj: Re: Adult CDs wanted for BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Electric Dreams is Pretty Good! :) BBS ready with about 1600 GIFS! :)
----RP Random TagLines Beta1.0
Yeah, I too am in Love with an ANIME Girl!
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From: RAMON ALVARADO Number: 6300
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 2:59p
Subj: CD ROM NEC 55J Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a death not working CDROOM:
--- Brand: NEC
--- Model: 55J
I need this cd room for parts if anyone has one for sale
please leave me a message.
Yo can call me at this number(work) 818-882-7143.
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* Origin: The IBM Data Shop 1:102/1009 (805)-526-2503 (1:102/1009)
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From: RAMON ALVARADO Number: 6301
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 9:37p
Subj: NEC CD DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a not working CD DRIVE. Model:
NEC 55j (Internal).
I need it for parts.
If any one has one for sale or wanna make a trade
replay here.
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* Origin: The IBM Data Shop 1:102/1009 (805)-526-2503 (1:102/1009)
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From: TIM SCHOOLER Number: 6302
To: TOM HUNT Date: 10/16/93 3:58p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TH> I only paid $20 apiece for Hot Pix 2,3,4 what makes Hot Pix
TH> 1 so valuable I was looking to pay around 20-30 for it
TH> thanks
It has some unusual material on it. Not exactly my taste, but I suppose thats
the reason it's so high. It's in great demand. Good luck. You won't find it
under 80.00 new.
--- Msgedsq/2 2.2e
* Origin: You are what you is (1:3803/1.4)
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From: MARK ELSON Number: 6303
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/16/93 11:36p
Subj: CDs Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Mike,
Have a couple of questions for you.....
when will the OS/2 Box CD be out??
and is the Mac Shareware disk BBS ready???
is the new Busty Babes out yet??
what kind of deal can I get if I buy all 3 of the above...
Mark
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* Origin: THE BLUES CAFE BBS (214) 660-8613 (1:124/5134)
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From: RYAN DENKE Number: 6304
To: BRAD PAYNTER Date: 10/12/93 4:27p
Subj: BBabes For Sale or trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <05 Oct 93 22:45:54>, Brad Paynter (1:141/730) writes:
>I've got a copy of Busty Babes, not to sure whether it's volume one or
>not, but since there is no volume number on it, I have to assume it is.
>I'd like to trade it for a good map disk or a shareware disk or two. Of
>course I'll take dead presidents if that's all you've got.
>Leave a note here and I'll get back to you.
How about $25 shipped?
--- msged 1.99S ZTC
* Origin: Cowboy Country Point Netters (1:303/5.104)
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From: GEOFF REED Number: 6305
To: JOHN THOMPSON Date: 10/14/93 1:37a
Subj: Budget Cd's 4 Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** On 10-11-93, John Thompson wrote to Joe Rinehart: *****>>
JT>How old is the SIMTEL-20 CD? Do you plan on carrying the updates as they
JT>become available? As I recall, a new one should be due out in
JT>November...
There probably won't be any more updates after November, The military is
planning on pulling the plug on Simtel20.army.mil , their mainframe running
TOPS-20 at Almagordo sometime in Dec. or January. they feel it's no longer
"cost effective" to maintain it.
~~~
* VbReader V1.4 *CANADOS: Format C:? Yer sure, eh? [S]ure [N]o way, hoser!
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* Origin: Jet City * Kent, WA * 2 Nodes * 206-839-8843 * v32bis (1:343/140)
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From: DANIEL PARDUE Number: 6306
To: ALL SELLERS Date: 10/17/93 1:02p
Subj: I want to get some CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just got a CD-ROM drive and want to buy some software. Please send catalogs.
Daniel Pardue
29 Melrose Dr.
Marrero, LA 70072
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* Origin: Dan's Domain New Orleans, LA (1:396/27.4)
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From: ROBERT SCHECHTER Number: 6307
To: CD ROM VENDORS Date: 10/16/93 7:07p
Subj: Avail. of distant suns cd Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for a good price for DISTANT SUNS by Virtual Reality Saw it at my local
CompUSA for 79.99 but the ORION catalog has it on sale for 50.00 US can anyone
beat this?
Email me robert.schechter@satalink.com
Thanks.
===
* KingQWK 1.05 *
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 6308
To: PAUL CHATFIELD Date: 10/16/93 9:38a
Subj: Queer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
->6:600/357
>like netmail direct or voice!....to the moderator...sorry for the reply but
>this king of thing p's me something shocking...I poll from Singapore to the
>for this...and I hope this doesnt happen again!
Now just think, another sysop paid money to get your off-topic
message to him. Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black...
---
■ QMPro 1.51 ■ Why do they call it Windows? Because it breaks easy?
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* Origin: SelectiveSource VirginiaBeach,VA 804 471 6776(1:275/102)
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 6309
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 11:13a
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
534 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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* Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519)
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From: PETE PASZKOWSKI Number: 6310
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 8:42p
Subj: Used CD-ROM drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone out there have a used CD-ROM drive for sale? I'm looking to expand my
BBS but don't want to buy another new CD-ROM. Let me know if you have one for
sale and it's features.
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: Bad Attitude BBS - Erie, PA - (814)864-1230 (1:2601/565)
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 6311
To: ROBERT MOORE Date: 10/17/93 10:11a
Subj: CD ROM Failure Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Robert Moore wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
RM> SETVER Table? Any other ideas what could cause the third
RM> drive and only the third drive to fail? The third drive was
RM> replaced three times (three DIFFERENT drives) and had the
RM> same symptoms with all three drives. Bought a new HITACHI
RM> Interface Card (part# CD-IF18-S) AND had ANOTHER cable made
RM> up. Drive three still failed.
...
RM> hooked up drive 3 as drive 1, still failed. Any ideas?
It sounds like a problem with the cable if you can not get any drive to work on
a specific location on a cable. The only other idea that comes to mind would
be a problem with the jumper
settings. If you had #3 set on #1 then #1 will work but when you access #3 it
won't work. Sorry I don't have any other
suggestions.
--- timEd-A10c
* Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441)
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From: RICHARD WICKER Number: 6312
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 12:59p
Subj: CD-ROMs for Amiga Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Are there any CD-ROM titles out for the AMIGA? And do any of you have any
for sale?
*FSED91j*
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* Origin: Lonely Mountain BBS 804-827-0726 (1:271/292.0)
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From: RICHARD WICKER Number: 6313
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 12:59p
Subj: Adult GIFs on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD. I have Stareware. I
know of the Storm collection. What are the other titles I should be looking
for, and how do you rate them?
*FSED91j*
--- Star-Net v1.02
* Origin: Lonely Mountain BBS 804-827-0726 (1:271/292.0)
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6314
To: PAUL CHATFIELD Date: 10/17/93 2:28a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> What number do I call to order from outside CAN/USA...I live
>> in Singapore!
You can reach us at 216-225-3263 or fax us your request at 216-225-6759
or drop us a note via the fido address below and we'll be happy to assist
you.
>> Will you ship with covers in a seperate mail....the thought
>> police are crazy here!
Tell me about it ...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!
Will be waiting to hear from you soon....
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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* Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
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From: MARK SANCHEZ Number: 6315
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 12:00p
Subj: Lowest price CD-ROMS! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Call Lee at Brainchild Computer Distributions for the best price on
Mitsumi CD-ROMs. 350ms access and 150k/sec transfer rate. Controller
included..... $169.00!
Mark
BCD
800-972-9263
Local, 972-9263
Tampa, FL!
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* Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193 (1:3603/170.0)
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 6316
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 9:11a
Subj: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a software toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia for sale. its version 1.5,
and needs windows to run. New! I will sell for the low price of
$30
reply here if interested, netmail me, or give me a ring.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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* Origin: ----> From The Back Door at 1:387/635.1 <---- (1:387/635.1)
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 6317
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/15/93 9:18p
Subj: Queen Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Dont worry that much about it (or check out the FLAME Echo).
bye
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* Origin: Monster Point 1290 (2:246/4.1290)
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From: JOHN RICKER Number: 6318
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 1:42p
Subj: Touch External CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there All,
I was wondering if anyone had any "TOUCH" External CD-ROM drives for
sale... The Model number we're lookinig for is.. "TOUCH" model GCDR-200.
Please let me know if you have any and if so, please let me know how
much they are...
Thank You in advance...
John Ricker
* OLX 2.2 * No, Scotty. I said "Beam me ABOARD". Not "A BROAD"
--- WM v3.10/93-1007
* Origin: The CAD Connection! (602) 835-0274 Mesa, Az. (1:114/282)
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From: TIM SCHOOLER Number: 6319
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 10/17/93 10:14a
Subj: Re: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> I paid about $20 or $25 for my Hot Pix 1. He probably
RS> bought it from
RS> NPWC.
No, I didn't. There are very few who even sell it, and I've never seen it for
less than 89.00. Mind telling me where you got it ?
--- Msgedsq/2 2.2e
* Origin: You are what you is (1:3803/1.4)
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From: MICHAEL APPELBAUM Number: 6320
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 4:58p
Subj: CD Multidisk Changer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone have any prices on Multidisk Changers?
Michael Appelbaum
-GeoNet BBS (617) 784 -5619
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* Origin: The Rainbow's Edge, Region 16 EchoMail Server (1:101/1)
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 6321
To: JEFF JENKINS Date: 10/17/93 11:58a
Subj: Re: Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jeff -
16 Oct 93, Jeff Jenkins writes to All:
JJ> Can Kodak photo CD pictures be converted to the .GIF format
JJ> or viewed with any other software? anyone...?
I have ONE copy of Tempra Access Photo CD Imaging Software, which includes two
dozen images. The programs allow you to edit and manipulate any Photo-CD
images, as well as save them onto your hard disk (or floppy) in a variety of
formats (incl GIF, BMP, TIFF, TGA, etc). The program runs under OS/2, Windows
3.x or DOS. I'm asking $29 (U.S.) for the disc, plus shipping. If interested,
a reply via Net Mail to 1:141/950.1 will ensure that you get first crack at
this.
- Arnie
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* Origin: The Magnificent MIDI Machine (1:141/950.1)
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From: TERRY MCDILL Number: 6322
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 5:22p
Subj: Adult CDs to trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm interested in trading a couple of adult CD-Roms.
Nightwatch Interactive--Would consider trade for New Wave Hooker II, or LA
Strippers.
Volcano--Would consider trade for Forbidden Subjects or perhaps the Hacker
Cronicles.
Terry
Netmail 1:280/310.2
Internet: Terry@metrobbs.com
Majornet: Terry@metro
Or...reply here
Thanks!
... Catch the Blue Wave!
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
* Origin: Sick of high LD bills? F'req TELEFRIEND 913-897-0453 (1:280/317.0)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 6323
To: GREG STERLING Date: 10/17/93 12:57p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Greg!
Saturday October 16 1993, Greg Sterling writes to Pat Rickerson:
PR>> Hello Greg!
PR>> 12 Oct 93, Greg Sterling writes to All:
GS>> INTERESTED IN BUYING OR TRADING FOR BUSTY BABES 1 CD. LET
PR>> ME KNOW IF
GS>> YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A DEAL. (I HAVE A LOT OF BASEBALL AND
PR>> HOCKEY CARDS IF
GS>> INTERESTED.)
PR>> Have it but need a 14.4 modem or simms
GS> DO YOU WANT A 14.4 MODEM IN TRADE FOR THE CD? I WASN'T CLEAR ON THAT.
GS> ALSO, PARDON MY IGNORANCE, BUT WHAT'S A SIMMS?
What kind is this 14.4 ? Brand, V32, HST ect. Also SIMMS are Single In-line
Memory Modual, memory for the mother board.
Pat
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: Thin Ice - Your Traveling On Thin Ice! (512) 939-7572 (1:160/9)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 6324
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/17/93 1:01p
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Doug!
Saturday October 16 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Pat Rickerson:
PR>> person know the money was in the mail. Could you
PR>> please tell how and where I make replys, any help
PR>> would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife
DC> Replies should be sent by netmail. That way only the sender has to pay
DC> for them.
Thanks for that info will try to make sure I do that.
Pat
--- GoldED 2.40
* Origin: Thin Ice - Your Traveling On Thin Ice! (512) 939-7572 (1:160/9)
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From: TOM SIMPSON Number: 6325
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 4:26p
Subj: Book Of List #3 (trade) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have Book of List #3 for trade. Am looking for Bible Library. If
interested, respond here or contact by phone at (919) 675-9563.
... Medics for Life - Christian living in action
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
--- RBBSMail v18.1
* Origin: The North Carolina EMS BBS Salisbury NC (704) 637-6906 (1:379/308.0)
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From: MIKE BRITT Number: 6326
To: MARK CROSBIE Date: 10/15/93 7:01p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 10 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MC> I have seen the new Night Owl 10 from $20.00 to 39.00. I am
MC> wanting to
MC> purchase 2 of these CD's. When I get a good price quote I
MC> will be
MC> ordering. If you are a supplier for this Cd, please send me
MC> your info
MC> and price.
MC> Thanks in advance,
I would suggest odering from Kevin Plummer. I placed an order for a drive
and the NO 10 Cd and he delivered to me promptly at a VERY good price. His add
is floating in this network somewhere.
Mike
The Legions of Valhalla
Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Belly dancing is a waist of energy.
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6327
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/17/93 12:07p
Subj: NEW CDROM arrivals at PCJ Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> MH> Doug,
> MH> Do you have the complete address for Sexy Cd Software?
> MH> I need it if you do, thanks.
> I read a message from Lee that company name is actually bogus. I
> would say she is right. I bought some Hot Pix 2 CDs from them at $50
> each about a year and a half ago. The 800# I called was an ordering
> service. I don't remember the guy's name I talked to anymore, but he
> is out of California I believe it is that actually owns the business I
> believe.
Okay and thanks,
I wanted to express my grief over their Asian ladies cd ( I not complaining to
you I didn't ask for a review first :-) I used a gif cataloger and actually
viewed every gif and the amount of dupes is outrageous, I printed out six pages
of dupes and would like to mail it but I guess I can't. :-)
Mike Harris
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6328
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/19/93 7:26a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: 9775
Read: NO Private: No
-> >> What number do I call to order from outside CAN/USA...I live
-> >> in Singapore!
->
-> You can reach us at 216-225-3263 or fax us your request at 216-225-67
-> or drop us a note via the fido address below and we'll be happy to as
-> you.
->
-> >> Will you ship with covers in a seperate mail....the thought
-> >> police are crazy here!
->
-> Tell me about it ...grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!
->
-> Will be waiting to hear from you soon....
Again: DO NOT post "one on one" messages. How many times do I have to
tell you this?
tim
moderator
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From: DAVID NGHIEM Number: 6329
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 9:47p
Subj: MAKING A CD-ROM DISK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone out there have a service where I can give you a tape backup of my
data and you make me a cd-rom? I have seen some ads that require me to have a
WORM drive and heck, a WORM costs too much. I think someone here said they
would accept a tape backup for the data. Please repsond with details.
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 6330
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 11:01a
Subj: Q&A 4.0 CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Q&A 4.0 on CD-ROM $39 including shipping
Gene Ehrich P.O. Box 209 Marlton NJ 08053-0209
cc: ALL
■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Only a fool would buy a Tandy, TWICE.
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From: DAVE BAKKER Number: 6331
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/14/93 7:13p
Subj: Re: Disk Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
( 10-12-93 ) Boris Osadciw wrote to Dave Bakker about Re: Disk
BO->> Boris, just wondering when I can expect my disk, Mayo Clinic,
BO->> I talked to you on the phone almost two weeks ago (Sept 27). I
BO->> sent a Money order with my request. You said if I air mail it
BO->> to you, you would get it in two days and it would take 2 days
BO->> to send it.
BO-
BO-We received your check on 10/4/93 and your order was shipped arimail o
BO-10/5/93.
BO-
BO-As I stated to you, it takes 7 - 10 days to get to you, sometimes fast
BO-depending on how busy customes is. I would think you should have your
BO-any day now.
Sorry, my mistake I misunderstood you. I was just excited about getting
it as it was the first cd I bought mail order. I recieved it today.
And I am very pleased with it.
BO-I wouldn't be concerned at this point, but if you don't get it by this
BO-weekend, call us at 800-243-0517 and let us know, we do insure all pac
BO-going out of here.
I was wondering if you could help. The pictures only come up in 16 color
and they don't show very clear. How do I adjust to be able to see the
pictures normal. I have a dos program that allows me to look at gif's in
256 format. They are crystal clear, so i know it is possible, but through
windows it doesn't. I have a vga moniter with a paridise card.( I think )
at least thats what I have it for other programs. I have tried other
windows view programs and none of these allow 256 either.
Thanks, if you can help.
Dave
* WinQwk 2.0 a#874 * DANGER DANGER Computer store ahead...hide wallet.
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From: BILL WOLFF Number: 6332
To: MARC BUFE Date: 10/14/93 11:07p
Subj: BTX/C64EMU/C64BBSS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Quoting: Brice Fleckenstein (10-07-93 16:56)
To: Marc Bufe
Subj: BTX/C64EMU/C64BBSS
BF> I don't think one exists, try the CBM or CBM-128 echoes. Definitely
BF> NOT available on a CD-ROM if one does exist, so far as I have seen.
For some reason, 64 emulators have been declared off topic in the
CBM or CBM-128 echoes. The reason being that they run on the old PC.
The PC-WRITE echo os the place you what to try. I know of at least
two of them out there. But I don't know much more about them. Anyway
PC-WRITE echo is the on topic place to go.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6333
To: DICK HUDDLESTON Date: 10/16/93 9:28a
Subj: Re: Inside tip Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <10-14-93 10:17> Dick Huddleston wrote:
DH>> LN> image from 1024x768 to VGA, if the user does not have SVGA--
DH>> I believe something like that MUST be my problem with Showoff.
Not a problem anymore according to Solona, they have a video card test in the
config area, and if you have VGA it scales it back, so that you still can enjoy
the disc--Its just a matter of running a different .BAT file!
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: MICHAEL YEOMANS Number: 6334
To: TED KIDD Date: 10/16/93 1:16a
Subj: Cd'S On A Novell Server Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
May I suggest CD-Net for Netware by Meridian. They can be reached
through 1-800-555-1212. Hope this helped!
Michael
(404)389-3833
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From: RUSS HUNTLEY Number: 6335
To: JARED MARTIN Date: 10/15/93 5:11p
Subj: Battle Chess Enhanced Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Battle Chess Enchanced Is GREAT! The Sound is truely the best, the game is
like chess, and the players come to life as they fight it out for the spaces
on the chess board, Truely a "Classic" Game, I highly reccomend The Seventh
Guest if you have not heard about it.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6336
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/16/93 8:27a
Subj: Re: BB II & SHOWOFF Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-
LN> You bet, your disc was sent overnight on Friday (15th)--You will enjoy
LN> the spelling error on the back of the cover (Arrghhhhh.....oh well,
LN> makes me human)--This disc was a labor of love :)
LN> Breech........Saturday delivery.
^^^^^^^^
That's today!! Yea!! (This message rec'd 8:30 a.m. 10/16 - GO FIDONET!)
LN> My picture ??? Egads, ! I have 20 pounds more to go, and I promise you
^^^^^^^^^
What, you, too?
LN> one ! But, I get one of yours !
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Deal!
LN> Im anxious for you to play with BB II, it should without a doubt set
LN> the industry standard for licensed collections. For T&A, its going to
LN> be a tough disc to beat.
LN> Now, there are not 150ZZZ Busty women on this disc, just alot of bust
^^^^^^^^^^
THANKS! Personally, I think gigantic busts are grotesque. I like 'em a
little top heavy (but not droopy) - but in the end (no pun) the "whole
package" has to hold together.
LN> photography (naturally)--Very California done, outdoors, beach, pools,
LN> jacuzzi etc....
Can't wait! (Well, actually will have to a bit. There's an airshow in
Houston today/tomorrow that's not to be missed if one likes that sort of
thing like I do.)
Cheers!
... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6337
To: LOIS FRANKEL Date: 10/16/93 9:00a
Subj: Re: ratings Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Lois Frankel to Bob Jackson <=-
BJ> G - Non-nudity you can see most anywhere including "thong"
BJ> bikinis and wet T-shirts.
LF>
LF> No PG? I would put thongs and wet t-shirts at "PG." Surely there is a
LF> relevant difference in intended audience between them and, say,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is a good point, Lois. I wasn't thinking of just CDs when I made up
my categories. Here (Houston/Galveston) one sees thongs and wet T's
on the beach whether it's "intended" or not and that's kinda what I was
going on. California or elsewhere may be even a bit more "revealing". A
bare female breast or fanny (either sex) will earn a movie an "R". All
the "X" movies I've ever seen contained explicit sexual activity. That
covered everything except the "pink shots" in my thinking...ergo "Hard
R".
I'm not trying to say that my ratings are perfect or even better
than anyone else's, and I'm certainly not trying to set any sort of
"standard". I'm only trying to provide a common frame of reference for
those that read my reviews.
LF> landscapes. (Personally, I prefer the landscapes, but that's another
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Depending on the situation, so do I.
LF> ... "You summoned me, Captain?" asked Earl Grey, hotly.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are you a fan of "Tom Swifty's"? How about "spoonerisms"? Puns?
... BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 6338
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/16/93 3:45p
Subj: Re: BB II & SHOWOFF Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-
LN> the spelling error on the back of the cover (Arrghhhhh.....oh well,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not so much spelling as grammar, but who's looking? CD arrived Sat.
10/16 while I was at the airshow (Wings Over Houston). Will probably
start perusing the contents tomorrow or Monday p.m. Mucho gratias, Lee!
... Reality-ometer: [\........] Hmmph! Thought so...
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 6339
To: RICHARD SKANDIS Date: 10/16/93 3:57p
Subj: NEC 3X/4X CDROM DRVS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> Thanks for the info. I will have to hear more about these drives
RS> performance before ordering one. I already have a NEC 74 external
RS> drive, but with the 64k cache and the 280ms access. Will watch this
RS> echo for how other users rate this drive and the 4x as well. Rich
I should have them IN STOCK by 10/22. Let me know if you are interested!! JET
Computer Services @713/265-1010. Fax # is 713/980-9435.
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6340
To: RUSTY ATKINS Date: 10/17/93 12:04p
Subj: Re: Off-Topic-You Bet! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RA>> The dealers want to wimp-out because of government pressure,
RA>> well, It applies to the SysOps also. If you want my business, (and
RA>> that of many people I know), you will continue to sell adult
RA>> materials.
RA>> I want to apologize to the moderator for being off-topic, but I feel
RA>> it is about time that someone spoke-up about this.
RA>> You can't make the same stand for yourself though, when you are
RA>> PAYING someone to tell you the same thing.
Hey, your stance is great, but it takes *MAJOR* bucks to tell this story to a
man in a black robe with friends sitting in a wooden box--If you can
collateralize us publishers, at $250,000 we will take a chance of going to
jail--Your heart is big, but your awareness of the dangers is narrow.
-=*>Lee<*=-
"Ex-XXX Queen of Porn"
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From: KELLY KIMBALL Number: 6341
To: DAVID FORD Date: 10/17/93 3:55p
Subj: Re: AutoCAD CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have seen a few things in cadence magazine. Most are dxf's. I hav
-> seen some in Video Toaster Magazine. Problem is that they're around
-> ohch!! Anyhow, I do 3d rendering but It's too expensive to get thin
-> with.
Thanks for the reply David. I know what you mean about to expensive.
There has to be some sort of CD ROM out there on AutoCAD/3D Studio
shareware files and utilities! I guess I'll just keep looking...
Kelly.
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From: JOHN RICKER Number: 6342
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/17/93 9:40p
Subj: Getting into the Business Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC|o| JR> I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I would go about getting
|o| JR> into the CD-ROM business (sell the CD's).. I would appreciate any
|o| JR> information that you could provide..
DC|o| You could start with FAYE at Tradeshows. She carries most of the popular
|o| titles. You can leave her a message at 317-651-1223. Tell her Doug Carp
|o| sent ya. You will need to probably get a business license and a state ta
|o| stamp to deal with some vendors. Also, you would benefit by getting a me
|o| account, although you'll have to shop around, as not all banks like mail
|o| businesses.....
I appreciate the Info Doug, and I'll call FAYE.... Thanks again..
John
* OLX 2.2 * I can SPELL, I just can't TYPE worth a hoot!
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From: SCOTT MCKNIGHT Number: 6343
To: RUSTY ATKINS Date: 10/17/93 11:03a
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> We will not frequent trade shows, stores, or anyplace else
>that has barred this material.
>you say if your MOTHER told you that you shouldn't touch that
We carry adult titles, but do not sell to immature or underage customers. We
can tell when customers are immature by the type of messages they post in the
CD-Sale echo. Underage customers, of course, are determined by a valid ID
card.
McKnight's Sales and Service
Rt. 4 Box 139-A
Abilene TX, 79603
FAX/Phone (915) 672-3502
BBS: (915) 672-3604 FIDO: 1:392/10
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From: JASON TAYNOR Number: 6344
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/17/93 1:52a
Subj: BB2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LN.> PS--BB II is at press and should be shipping later this week--We are
LN.> drop shipping to major arteries, so your supplier should be in 'Fat'
LN.> city, soon.
LN.>
Lee, am really intrested if you could give some details of BB2. Have BB1,
rel2, and have been very happy with it. Would appreciate any info you could
give.
Jason
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From: JD BROWN Number: 6345
To: RONALD LEON Date: 10/16/93 10:34a
Subj: A Public Appeal Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL> Mike Shannon beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
RL>
RL> MS>I would like to make this public appeal to all Starvector's past, pres
RL> MS>and future customers:
RL> MS>
RL> MS>A problem exists in Fidoland, and it has just recently come to my
RL> MS>attention. There exists a Fido policy which basically states that rou
RL> MS>Netmail is not to be used for the purposes of transacting any type of
RL> MS>commercial business. This includes solicitations, direct sales, price
RL> MS>quotes, catalog requests, and the like. I spoke with Dallas Hinton, t
RL>
RL> This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-like
RL> dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely
RL> unmanaged and unregulated like the rest of the net. FIDO is big and is
RL> handy but both Intellec and especially RIME are much more pleasant places
RL> to hang out. However when it comes to buying and selling, you can't beat
RL> the size of crowd you reach here.
See if you can understand this. Fidonet is NOT a commercial network.
Fidonet is a Hobbyist Network.
Current Fidonet policy does not allow commercial use of ECHOMAIL
or routed Netmail, since it is routed along the same path as ECHOMAIL.
What you do in DIRECT Netmail is your business.
Commercial echo's like this one are "TOLERATED" as long as the messages
are of interest to EVERYONE. So any company can post their price lists,
etc...in the echo. However, when those companies use the echo to CONDUCT
business they are doing it on the backs of those people who PAY for moving
the mail.
Direct one on one transactions are a violation of Fidonet policy. This is
NOT a commercial network. RIME, is a commercial network. You must PAY
to join.
___
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6346
To: RUSTY ATKINS Date: 10/17/93 12:04p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RA> The dealers want to wimp-out because of government pressure,
RA> well, It applies to the SysOps also. If you want
RA> my business, (and that of many people I know), you
RA> will continue to sell adult materials. We will not
RA> knowingly purchase any computer equipment,
RA> software, etc, from a dealer that has quit selling
RA> adult materials. If you want to card us, fine, I
America is a free country and you can very well excercise that right. I am
going to quit selling them soon, as there is creedance to what happened to Tony
Davis for instance. I am darn sure if you were in his shoes, you would be
speaking a different toon.
RA> support you. I am not willing to support people
RA> who seem to almost LIKE the idea of the government
RA> controlling ever aspect of your life. (what would
You often do not have much choice. To ignore the laws and risk getting busted
is not a smart choice. It's kinda like voting. You can vote for the other guy
and still lose and not get a darn thing done about the laws he passes, such as
another 5 cents a gallon on gasoline <g>.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6347
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 2:11a
Subj: Tech Arsenal Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>> T E C H A R S E N A L <<<
*Over 600+ Megs *Over 7,000 Files *'90-93' Files Mostly 92
*Programming Codes *Cad/Cam Support *Desqview/Qemm Support
*Lan Support Files *BBS Ready *Dupe Checked
If your looking for the best in Tech Info, Source Codes and Support Programs
on CD, look no further, as "Tech Arsenal" is one of the best you'll find on
the market today !! PRICE - $25.00
ORDERS ONLY! US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6348
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 2:11a
Subj: Pier 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
************************* P I E R 3 ******************************
New Shareware CD from "The Pier Exchange
600 + Megs Of The Latest Shareware Programs
PRICE - $25.00
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6130
************************************************************************
Boris Osadciw
... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 6349
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 2:11a
Subj: CDROM Systems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: STEVE EVERLEY Number: 6350
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/18/93 2:10a
Subj: Telephone Directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SE> Looking for the most up to date and complete CD
> SE> containing the telephone numbers for EVERYONE in
> SE> the U.S. I understand that someone has a set of
> SE> about 6-8 cd's that is real good. I have seen one
> SE> that is 2-CD's. I guess it is OK but definately
> SE> not very complete.
> SE>
> SE> Can any one help me..
> SE>
> We have the latest Mid-Year Prophone for $95. It contains 6
> residential and 1 business disc for names and numbers all
> over the US. Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order.
When is the next update supposed to be out. I know that telephone numbers
change so rapidly that its about 10% out of date or better by the time it gets
printed. Is there a known lag time from when the info is gathered and the CD
is made.???
Thanks for the input..Looking foreward to ordering one from you.
-=Steve=-
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 6351
To: JOKER Date: 10/15/93 11:51p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Closeout! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
J>Hey could give me a number that i can call you to order a cd-rom disk?
You can reach us at (205) 793-4481 for ordering and additional info.
You must be over 21 to order any adult titles. Thanks.
Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 6352
To: SYLVAIN DESCHAMPS Date: 10/15/93 11:55p
Subj: Lowest CD-Rom Prices Yet! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SD>I'm a reseller and would like to receive one of your catalog. PLEASE
>include the fee for delivery in Canada. If you can please include a
>example like:
SD>Night Owl's v10 -> 39$ + 5$ shipping in Canada via xxx + 2$ taxes...
Hello Sylvain. Night Owl 10 -> $35 US + $6 shipping to Canada. No sales
tax applicable. We accept Mastercard & Visa as well as checks or money
orders. Thanks for asking.
Jim...
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From: TIM SCHOOLER Number: 6353
To: RON DWIGHT Date: 10/17/93 7:58p
Subj: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RD> It was (is) banned in several states as well as
RD> several European countries. It contains bestiality amongst
RD> other things and is better left alone unless you have a
RD> strong stomach.
Precisely why I'd like to get rid of it. Must be some demand, judging by what
it sells for.
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6354
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 10:08p
Subj: NEW WHOLESELL CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NEW CATALOG WITH WHOLESELL PRICES
NEW SHIPPING ADDRESS : STEVE GREENO
2508 AVENIDA REGULO
TUCSON AZ. 85710
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From: DOUG HUMMEL Number: 6355
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 3:45p
Subj: CONTROLLER CARD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
WANTED!!!! CONTROLLER CARD FOR HITACHI CD-ROM MODEL CDR-3500
(THIS IS AN INTERNAL CR-ROM)
IF YOU HAVE ANY INFO ON THESE CARDS CALL DOUG HUMMEL @ (904)372-4610
OR ADDRESS ANY REPLYS TO 6602 N.W. 30TH TERRACE
GAINESVILLE, FL. 32606
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From: CHET HART Number: 6356
To: BRETT PARKER Date: 10/17/93 7:06p
Subj: CD-ROM for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I Sorry, but that trad deal has already been concluded. Thanks anyway.
73, Chet
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From: CHET HART Number: 6357
To: CARL JOHNSON Date: 10/17/93 7:06p
Subj: CD-ROM for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm sorry, but that trade has already been concluded. Thanks anyway.
73, Chet
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From: VINCE SORENSEN Number: 6358
To: PIERRE PROULX Date: 10/17/93 12:12p
Subj: NIGHT OWL V.10 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> How much are you selling the N.O. v.10?
Hi Pierre!
We currently have it for $45 Cdn.
Vince
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS Number: 6359
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 8:55p
Subj: Misc items for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Here's what I HAVE:
- Always IN-2000 SCSI controller with floppy port, 16-bit, w/docs...$135
- Practical Peripherals internal 9600 modem.........................$120
- Trident 8900c SVGA w/1meg, docs, drivers, box......................$50
- 387dx/25 math coprocessor..........................................$40
- (2) Microsoft Excel V4.0 shrinkwrapped (evaluation)................$60
- Wordperfect V5.1 with docs, disks (evaluation).....................$40
- OS/2 2.0 shrinkwrapped.............................................$40
- Alpha Four V1.1 with docs, disks...................................$40
Here's what I WANT:
- adult CDs
- external 14.4k modem
- cash + shipping cost
Please e-mail me here or call my number in the tagline....thanks !!
... Voice: 919-870-6926 (eves/weekends)
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From: MICHAEL SELLS Number: 6360
To: ALL Date: 10/07/93 1:59p
Subj: CD Encyclopedia for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CD-ROMS
I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows for
sale.
Version 1.01 (1992 edition)..........................Best offer
Version 2.01 (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer
If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279.
Thanks,
Michael Sells
309 East Saint Mary Drive
Covington, LA 70433
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From: ZACHARY HAMM Number: 6361
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/17/93 4:18p
Subj: 93 SHAREWARE Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Mike,
What's the latest 1993 shareware CD-ROM?? I'd prefer something with EPIC
megagames and Apogee games, as well as other ASP popular title for games and
business...
Zack Hamm
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From: ZACHARY HAMM Number: 6362
To: ED DUCHEK Date: 10/17/93 4:21p
Subj: LOTUS 1-2-3 FOR $50 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have Lotus 1-2-3 for windows, version 1.2 on CD for $50
> This is the version before 4.0(current)... they skipped a
> lot of numbers to make it even with the DOS version. Still
> a great program. You cannot beat the price of $50 for it!
Are the docs included with this?? I might be interested...
Zack
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From: ZACHARY HAMM Number: 6363
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 4:24p
Subj: WALNUT CREEK ADDRESS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anybody got Walnut Creek's Address and Phone Number??
Zack hamm
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From: JAMES PORTER Number: 6364
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 10/18/93 3:39p
Subj: BBS Defense Fund Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TD> The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund
TD>Established to help pay the costs of litigation in defense of criminal charg
>against Tony Davis, the costs of defending the State's attempt to forfeit an
>sell Tony Davis' Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS computer equipment and
>prosecuting cases against persons who violated any user of the Oklahoma
>Information Exchange BBS civil rights as a result of the raid and seizure of
>the OIE BBS.
TD>The outcome of these legal procedures will inevitable have a long term effec
>on the electronic communications community, and all interested parties are
>requested to help defend their legal rights.
TD>Please send your donation to:
TD> The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund
> 3 Quarter Horse Lane
> McLoud, Oklahoma 74851
Will you be generating receipt for donations????
James
■ OLX 3.10 31-0461 ■ "Now would be a good time!" -- Chekov
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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT Number: 6365
To: ROB MCINTYRE Date: 10/17/93 6:10p
Subj: Re: Cd rom list 1 of 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Gifs Galore for $30 ? Good Luck ! Walnut Creek sells 'em for $24.99 so
-> that's it's regular price.
->
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Ya know, I couldn't care less. You don't have to be an idiot about
it.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 6366
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 12:04a
Subj: AutoCAD Shareware CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its AutoCAD CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
876 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: RICK SHOAF Number: 6367
To: TIM SCHOOLER Date: 10/18/93 12:20p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> I paid about $20 or $25 for my Hot Pix 1. He probably
RS> bought it from
RS> NPWC.
TS> No, I didn't. There are very few who even sell it, and
TS> I've never seen it for less than 89.00. Mind telling me
TS> where you got it ?
I got it at a Hamfest in Dayton, OH. I couldn't even begin to tell you exactly
who I bought it from, but the highest price I saw for it was $30.
Rick
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From: STEVE KRUEGER Number: 6368
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 7:40p
Subj: NEC MultiSpeed 38 for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Brand New NEC MUlti Speed 38 external ec rom reader
375ms access
Multi Speed and MultiSession Kodak
scsi
all docs and cables
275.00
214-424-9920
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6369
To: RUSS HUNTLEY Date: 10/17/93 11:04p
Subj: cd Rom Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RH> Thank You very Much, I am looking for the best in a
RH> shareware cd-rom for a bbs, any suggestions?
RH> ANYONE! is (Night Owl better that Monster Media, Or
RH> is there a difference) I am Running SBBS, With a
RH> double speed CD-ROM. Thanks
I would estimate the blatest two out at the moment that are excellent are
Nightowl 10 and Pier 3. We have them priced at $29 and $25 respectively.
There are also other great ones out also like Software Vault Gold. Give us a
call at 615-339-0235 if you'd like to discuss them further or to order one.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6370
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 11:11p
Subj: cd list 1 of 5 Refer: NONE
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AB20 Amiga CD-Rom...300+mb, 3000+ Amiga shareware files..........10.00
America's Premier 1993 Shareware...Win,Games,fonts,clipart,gifs..16.95
Aminet Amiga...Near 600 meg from Aminet Interet Archives.....**..14.50
AMSoft (Ham)...Thousands of ham shareware/ham related programs...26.95
A.S.P...Best of ASP Association Authors Shareware................21.95
Big Sky...Hundreds of shareware programs,fast bbs install....**..26.00
C Users Group Library...User supported source code-dos,unix,cpm..27.95
CD Powerbox...6,858 files-50 categories-all '91-'92 files....**..19.95
Fred Fish On-Line 1.5...700+ 360k discs of Amiga shareware...**..49.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware...About 250mb DOS/125mb MAC-made 5/92..14.50
Giga Games...3000+ MSDOS/Windows games/educational programs..**..18.95
Gigabyte Gold...13,111 files-99 categories-all '89-'91 files.**..19.95
Ham Radio...Enormous collection of Ham & SWL programs & data.....11.95
Libris Britannica...600+mb British shareware-tech/scientific.**..29.95
Lion Share...4208 files-400+ meg-50% '91/50% '92 shareware...**..21.95
Monster Disc...2 CDS-all 1992 shareware with book............**..37.95
Monster Media '93 #2..Sequel to Monster-400+mb-all '93-book..**..25.95
Nightowl 6.0 or 7.0...600+mb-'91/92-6M+ files-50+ categories.**..19.95
Nightowl 8.0 or 9.0...600+mb-'92/93-5M+ files-50+ categories.**..19.95
Nightowl 10.0 (New)...600+mb-all '93-5M+files-70% after 6/93.**..28.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...Best of Nightowl business shareware.18.95
Nightowl Games...............................................**..18.95
Nightowl Graphics...All gifs.................................**..24.95
OS/2 Archives-Hobbes...2772 files-600+mb-shareware/freeware-6/93.14.50
OS2/Box...From the makers of CD Power/Winbox (Pre-Orders)........24.95
PC Sig H & B Collection...Best of PC Sig for home & business.....16.95
PC Sig World of Games............................................18.95
PC Sig World of Windows..........................................18.95
PC Sig #10...Great collection of shareware-'92...............**..16.95
PC Sig #11 or #12...Professional collection-3700+-'92-'93....**..17.95
PC Sig #9...Great collection of shareware-'90-'91............**..12.95
Phoenix #3...600+ mb shareware from 1992.....................**..11.95
Phoenix #4 (New)...Sequel to Phoenix 3-shareware.............**..16.95
Pier 3.......................................................**..24.95
Powerpak Gold...Released in 1992-Best of best-7354 files.....**..11.95
SDN 1...Collection of shareware from the SDN network.........**..19.95
Shareware Extravaganza..(4 cds)-BBS collection-25M+ files....**..38.95
Shareware 1993 v1...5,000+ files-early '93-620mb.............**..19.95
Shareware 1993 v2...6,000 files-all '93, no dupes with v1....**..23.95
Shareware Explorer..(4 cds)-5 star series-26,000 files.......**..39.95
Shareware Games..6M+ files-4/93-sports,arcade,casino,solutions...21.95
Shareware Heaven.................................................14.95
Shareware On-Line #2...'93 release...........................**..27.95
ShareWare Overload...550mb-6100 files-wide variety of programs...11.95
Shareware Studio #1..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Studio #2...637mb,6,659 files,all '92-'93 files....**..19.95
Shareware Studio #3..........................................**..19.95
Shareware Tiger...600+mb of shareware-1991...................**..19.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,1/92.......**.. 8.95
Simtel 2...from internet site-9,000+ files,viewer,5/93.......**..13.95
So Much Shareware #1.........................................**..15.95
So Much Shareware #2.........................................**..19.95
So Much Shareware #3...650mb.................................**..21.95
Software Vault #2...8000 programs,most '93,released 5/93.....**..15.95
Software Vault #3-Gold...590+mb,all '93,no dupes with 1 or 2.**..19.95
Sound Sensations..Sound effects,clips,music,convertors,voices....11.95
Source Code..600+mb,15M+ files,usenet/simtel/msdos,unix/dos-3/92.19.95
Tech Arsenal.....................................................21.95
Technotools...Programmer shareware tools,many languages..........11.95
Top 2000 Shareware..Family/kids oriented,menu-driven.............19.95
Up All Night...Nice collection from Bob Hall-Summer '93......**..16.95
Win Platinum...Great colelction of Windows programs..............23.95
Winbox (CD)..................................................**..24.95
Window Master....................................................19.45
Windoware..Shareware for Win 3.1+,large variety of applications..11.95
Windows 1993...7,347 files,600+mb,'90-'92 files,many areas...**..23.95
Windows - CICA...from internet ftp site-hundreds of meg-4/93.**..14.50
X11R5/GNU Cdrom..X11R5 window system source,GNU source,Sparc.....24.95
20th Century Video Almanac.......................................32.95
7th Guest...Interactive drama in a real virtual environment......37.95
1001 Utilities...................................................12.95
9000 Sounds..Sblaster,midi,wav,adlib,pc speaker,cakewalk,mod.**..22.95
Adventures in Heaven...Games-challenge,explore,capture,monsters..14.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...Comedy/adventure game w/Wild Willy.19.95
Aesops Fables...54 fables-music/narration/illustrations..........29.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia...MPC database of world military aircraft..35.95
Amanda Stories...Adventures of Indigo the cat & faithful camel...44.95
American Bus. Fone Book '92......................................13.95
American Bus. Fone Book '93-4....................................22.95
American Vista Atlas..Pics/maps/music/audio/history/wildlife/MPC.29.95
Anecdotes........................................................26.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS-18.95...Tour 200+ animals-300+ exhibits...MPC-20.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble..Multimedia,surprises on every page.....26.95
Audobon Birds...1840 edition-500+ images-full text-bird calls....19.95
Audobon Mammals...Full color pallette-full text-CD quality sound.19.95
B17 Silent Service...............................................39.95
Barney Bear Goes to School...Interactive-teaches math/reading....21.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space...Barney tours space in the shuttle....21.95
Barron's Book Notes...101 complete unabridged book notes-more....38.95
BattleChess MPC...Multimedia animated chess game-audio/music.....21.95
Beauty & the Beast...WIN 3,multimedia storybook,interactive......24.95
Between Heaven & Hell 2 or 3.....................................44.95
Beyond the Wall of Stars..Futuristic adventure game beyond.......19.95
Bible Library...9 Bibles, 20 references, 27 concordances.........25.95
Bibles & Religion................................................11.95
Blue Force.......................................................43.95
Brittanica Family Choice..15 items-Berenstein Bears,Spellcopter..20.95
Brittanica Select...Business software, DAC-Easy, more............18.95
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To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 11:12p
Subj: cd list 2 of 5 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Business Assistant...............................................13.00
Business Master...1100+ business related shareware-600+ meg......19.95
Business Phone Dir w/Zip+........................................34.95
Cameron's Fine Art Poster Catalog..Reproductions,sculpture,info..31.95
Carmen San Diego World Deluxe...3000 clues,music,anim,graphics...24.95
CD Cad v3.7 with manual...Full featured CAD w/templates..........31.95
CD Game Pack 1...6 great games...................................14.95
Cd Game Pack 2..12 games,Chessmaster 2000,Bruce Lee,Black Hole...17.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..from a master,learn basic to advanced.skil.18.95
Christmas Carol...The classic Charles Dickens tale...............28.95
Classic Collection (4 Pak) Sherlock,Shakespeare,Birds,Mammals....41.95
Clip Art Galore...1950 hard to find images for DTP..........**...22.95
Clip Art Goliath...11,000 images in pcx/tiff format..............11.95
Clip Art Heaven...300+ dpi images-pcx/tiff/cdr/bmp,convert/view..14.95
Coates Art Review...600+ images of impressionist works, info.....31.95
College Handbook (1992)..........................................18.95
Color Magic Clip Art..300 dpi,256 colors,royalty free............19.95
Colossal Cookbook................................................11.95
Complete Bookshop................................................11.95
Composer Quest...................................................33.95
Compton's Interactive Encylopedia................................79.95
Compton's MM Encyclopedia........................................42.95
Computer Reference Library...Tutorials for Lotus, Word Perf,more.11.95
Conan the Cimmerian..............................................28.95
Consumer Information Disc........................................37.50
Cookbook Heaven..................................................15.95
Corel 3.0 CD.....................................................57.95
Corel 3.0 Floppy + CD...........................................129.95
Corel 4.0 CD Upgrade............................................213.95
Corel 4.0 Floppy + CD Upgrade...................................219.95
Countries of the World..........................................299.95
Crossword Cracker................................................23.95
Daggar of Amon...................................................25.95
Danger Hot Stuff 2...............................................24.95
Dare, Bluff, or Die..Role play history of Wild West,educational..29.95
Database...Programs for Clipper,Foxpro,Paradox,dBase,Rbase.......19.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.........................................11.95
Deep Voyage......................................................34.95
Desert Storm..100's of reports,photos,recorded interviews........22.95
Desktop Bookshop.................................................18.95
Dickens Complete.................................................44.95
Dictionaries & Languages..Lessons in French,German,Russain,more..11.95
Dictionary of the Living World..Facts/photos-5M+ animal species..28.95
Dinosaur Adventure..Pics,animation,narration,sounds,educational..24.95
Dinosaur Encyclopedia............................................23.95
Dinosaur Safari..................................................44.95
Dr. Games........................................................19.95
Dr. Music........................................................19.95
Dr. Windows......................................................19.95
Doctors Book of Home Remedies....................................33.95
Dune..Enhanced,original music score,best fantasy adventure game..46.95
Eco Quest, Search for Cetus......................................25.95
Education Master...Educational oriented shareware collection.....19.95
Electronic Cookbook...Complete library-1800+ recipes,pics,hints..23.95
Electronic Home Library..250 books,Plato,Poe,Shakespeare,more....21.95
Encyclopedia of Clip Art.........................................23.95
Encyclopedia of Sound..250+ sound files,WAV format,royalty free..11.95
Eric the Unready.................................................38.95
Essential Home & Business Collection..from PC Sig,368 best files.18.95
European Monarchs..History with bizarre details of kings/queens..33.95
Executive Factomatic.............................................36.95
Eye of the Beholder..............................................26.95
F117A/F1511 W/Scenario...........................................44.95
F15 III Strike Eagle.............................................57.95
Family Doctor...2000 common questions,data on 1600 drugs,pics....22.95
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds..........................................25.95
Firearms Reference..600 products in WIN/DOS BMP format.....**....21.95
Food Analyst.....................................................32.95
Fonts #1.........................................................27.95
Fresh Arte...1,500 copyright-free drawings/graphics,400 dpi......31.95
Full Bloom..100+ pics,25 movies,100 piano clips-exotic flowers...36.95
Funny............................................................28.95
Future Wars......................................................48.95
Game Arena.......................................................13.00
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)......................................19.45
Gameware Collection..............................................23.95
Games 1993...6M+ files,Apogee,unprotects,tips,arcade,flight..**..24.50
Gardening...Photos, planning, clipart, landscaping, home garden..11.95
Gifs Galore...rated G-6,000+ GIF images-wide variety.............14.50
Global Explorer (Delorme)...Streets of major world cities........84.95
Gofer Winkles Adventure...Multimedia comic book w/story & speech.34.95
Golden Immortal..................................................24.95
Goldilocks 3 Bears-English or French or Spanish..................38.95
Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers....................................47.95
Great Cities of World 1...MPC-10 cities-Moscow,Paris,NY,LA,Rio...23.95
Great Cities of World 2...Berlin,Buenos Aires,Chicago,Rome,more..23.95
Great Wonders of the World 1...12+ sights-Great Wall,Taj Mahal...42.95
Great Wonders of the World 2.....................................49.95
Greatest Books Collection..150+ titles,world's important books...32.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) v2.....................................21.95
Grolier Ill. Encyl. (STW) MM or MPC..............................35.95
Guiness Disc of Records (92).....................................22.95
Gunship 2000 w/Scenario..........................................39.95
Guy Spy..........................................................39.95
Hacker Chronicles................................................21.95
HamWare 1993.....................................................19.95
Holy Bible & Other Christian Software............................18.95
Hospitality Index................................................39.95
House of Games...................................................18.95
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Subj: cd title list 3 of 5 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Indiana Jones IV.................................................43.95
Inspector Gadget.................................................46.95
Inter. Business/Economc Atlas....................................23.95
Island Designs...................................................36.95
Jack and the Beanstalk...........................................38.95
Jazz, Multimedia History...Biographies w/CD quality audio........26.95
Jets & Props..2 discs,200+ pics,200 audio clips,civil/military...29.95
Jokes & Pranks...................................................13.00
Jones in the Fast Lane.Up to 4-board game-money/career/education.19.00
Jungle Book-KAA Hunt.............................................34.95
Jungle Book-Mowgli...............................................34.95
Jungle Book-Tiger................................................34.95
Just Fonts v1....................................................19.95
Just Grandma & Me...Ultimate adventure to explore the beach......38.95
Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm....................................54.95
Key Clipmaster Pro...............................................32.95
Key Fonts Pro....................................................32.95
Key Home Designer................................................32.95
Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv.........................................36.95
Kodak Photo CD Access CD..Software-24 dazzling pics in 6 formats.16.95
King James Bible.................................................27.95
Kings Quest V...King Graham embarks to rescue his family.........19.95
Kings Quest VI Upgrade...........................................33.95
Kings Quest VI..Best games ever,help shipwrecked prince alex.....43.95
Lan Master.......................................................24.95
Languages of the World MPC-12 languages-cross ref,dict,translate.25.95
Laura Bow II.....................................................44.95
Learning at Home.................................................49.95
Learning Adventure...ABCs,123s,high school,college,games,tutors..10.00
Learning Heaven...ABCs to SAT,type,math,read,spell,sign lang.....14.95
Legend of Kyrandia...............................................48.95
Library of the Future 1..1150+ pieces literature from 450 titles.38.95
Library of the Future 2..2M+ pieces literature from 950+ titles.199.95
Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook........................................37.95
Little Red Riding Hood...........................................37.95
Loom...Lucasfilm,interactive,adventure to land of mystical bird..18.95
Lord of the Rings................................................49.95
MacMillan Dictionary-Children..12M+ words,1000+ pics,400 sounds..22.95
Mad Dog McCree...Arcade shooting game w/motion picture action....39.95
Magazine Rack....................................................20.95
Majestic Places..................................................34.95
Manhole..........................................................35.50
Maniac Mansion #2: Day of the Tentacle...........................43.95
Mantis..Fly XF5700 experimental fighter of future-fight aliens...19.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas...Find Mario-teaches geography......26.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing..Renowned,expanded help/lessons......21.95
Mayo Clinic......................................................21.95
Mega Clipart.....................................................26.95
Mega Movie Guide..Comprehensive info on 50M+ movies,search.......42.95
Microsoft Beethoven 9th Symphony..Analysis,notes,lyrics,insights.57.95
Micrsft Bookshelf...Atlas,Dict,Encyl,Almanac,Quotes,Rogets ('93).40.95
Microsoft Cinnemania.............................................55.95
Microsoft Dinosaurs MPC..Interactive journey thru their world....56.95
Microsoft Golf..WIN MPC edition-on par with reality..............49.95
Microsoft Mozart.................................................62.95
Microsoft Stravinsky.............................................57.95
Microsoft Music Instruments......................................56.95
Microsoft Works..................................................39.95
Middle East Diary................................................30.00
Midi Music Shop..................................................19.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose..Ages 3+-Characters speak/sing-5 languages.19.00
Modblaster...300 classical,jazz,rock-play/analyze music files....17.95
Monarch Notes...Complete works-all sets..........................42.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of).......................................19.95
Mother Earth #2..................................................27.95
Mother of All Clipart...23,000 images-one of the largest around..15.95
Mozart...........................................................34.95
MPC Wizard-Windows...Tune a PC-CDROM tests,video/audio drv,demos.13.95
Multimedia, All American.........................................21.95
Multimedia Music Bach............................................27.95
Multimedia Tutor.................................................17.95
Murder Mystery Stories...........................................44.95
National MM Parks Guide..Parks,monuments,historic,lakes,more.....19.95
National Geographic MPC Mammals..................................23.95
North American Fax Book..150M+ fax numbers,addresses-US/Can/Mex..32.95
North American Indians..text/image database,customs,family life..32.95
Officers Bookcase................................................32.95
Oxford English Refernce Library..8 works-English/Thesaurus,more..99.95
Our House (Family Circus)........................................42.95
Our Solar System..NASA/observ photos,star locators,astro data....11.95
PC Globe 5.0.....................................................49.95
PC Karoake (OEM).................................................43.95
PC Karaoke...Create/record your own music videos & sing-a-longs..74.95
PC Karaoke Kids w/Microphone.....................................44.95
PC Medic...Diagnose problems on your PC..........................27.95
PC Sig Games.....................................................23.95
Pentaminoes......................................................31.95
Peter Rabbit.....................................................24.95
Peter & the Wolf (Win3)...Unique version-Jack Lemmon narrates....22.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs..Stats on 200+ most popular drugs......26.95
PhoneDisc USA...Summer '93 set of 2 CDs-80 million residential...55.95
Photos to Remember...............................................34.95
Pinacotheca MPC..800 painters,bios & work,100's of tables........21.95
Pill Book...Just like the printed version-all about 1,500+ drugs.34.95
Pixel Garden.....................................................32.95
Plant Doctor.....................................................32.95
Playing with Language-English..language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-French...language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-German...language games to teach skills....22.95
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To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 11:15p
Subj: cd title list 4 of 5 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Playing with Language-Japanese.language games to teach skills....22.95
Playing with Language-Spanish..language games to teach skills....22.95
Precision Mapping.Street maps,zoom,cad,clip,measure,print,search.68.95
Presidents, It All Started with George...........................71.95
Project Gutenberg................................................19.95
Prophone Business 1993...7 million business listings.............20.95
Prophone (3 CD Set - '92)...33 million listings-1 bus/2 resident.27.95
Prophone MidYear 1993..77 millon records-1 bus/6 residential.....99.95
ProStar..........................................................48.95
Publique Arte...Thousands of 600 dpi images-.ZIP/.PCX formats....32.95
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)..Word processer-graphics/layout-art...20.95
Publishers Dream Disc..1M's of PCX, ATM, TT fonts,clip-art,book..28.95
Publishers Paradise w/manual.....................................25.95
Publishers Powerhouse..750 TT fonts,8200 pcx clipart,manual......22.95
Putt Putt Joins Parade...........................................49.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).........................................29.50
QRZ Ham Radio..entire FCC callbook,ham programs,club lists-5/93..14.95
QuickToons...6 full length public cartoons,Quicktime,color,b/w...35.95
Readers Library...2000 works of history,reference,literature.....20.95
Return of the Phantom............................................48.95
Return to the Moon...............................................33.95
Revell Power Model Aircraft......................................48.95
Revell Power Model Muscle........................................48.95
Revell Power Model Racer.........................................48.95
Ring World.......................................................45.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion......................................34.95
Rotor............................................................24.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic.......................................36.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook......................................44.95
Sci-Fi..Pics/Sound/Files-Star Trek,Star Wars,Fantasy,more....**..23.95
Seals of the US Government.......................................32.95
Secret Island Dr. Quandry........................................39.95
Secret Weapons of the LuftWaffe.Lucasfilm,fly experimental craft.23.95
Secrets-Exec Success Stories.....................................36.95
Seventh Bun......................................................37.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..Solve case-be a sleuth-interactive..20.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..Further mysteries-live video........48.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3..Further mysteries-intrigue-motion...52.95
Sherlock Holmes...Complete set of texts..........................16.95
Shakespeare...Complete set of texts..............................16.95
Sights & Sounds...Gifs & sound files.....................**......24.95
Snap Dragon......................................................39.95
Snapdragon.......................................................39.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs)....................................**..27.95
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports....................................42.95
Soundblaster MOD Files...........................................24.95
Sound Effects Library............................................17.95
Sound Works (Software)...Play audio discs on your CD drive.......17.95
Soundware Collection.............................................24.95
SoundWav.........................................................24.95
Space Adventure..Voyage-explore space,history,full-motion video..24.95
Space Quest IV..Roger Wilco adventure,rock-n-roll soundtrack.....19.95
Space Shuttle....................................................24.95
Spirit of Excalibur..Role playing/fantasy game-medieval England..28.95
Sporting News-Pro Football.......................................36.95
Sports Best on CDRom...Parasailing,tennis,kickboxing,more........24.95
Star Child.......................................................39.95
Stellar 7...Action arcade game,20 different enemies,7 worlds.....19.00
StickyBear Preschool.............................................36.95
Storybook Weaver.................................................39.95
StoryTime #1..Goldilocks,Red Hen,3 Bears-teaches read/spell......24.95
Storytime #2..Boy Cried Wolf,Milkmaid & Pail,Belling the Cat.....24.95
Storytime #3..Hare & Tortoise,Lion & Mouse,City/Country Mouse....38.95
Straight from Heaven..KJV,AV,ASV,Greek,Hebrew,Koran,Span,German..17.95
Street Atlas USA (v1-WIN)........................................85.95
Street Atlas USA (v2-WIN)...Complete US streetlevel atlas........88.95
Super Clipart....................................................15.95
Super Fonts......................................................15.95
Super Games for WIN v1...........................................15.95
Super Games for WIN v2...........................................15.95
Super Programmer...Source code for C,paradox,dBase,Foxpro,etc....19.95
Swimwear 1993................................................**..25.95
Swimwear & More (SVGA)...........................................28.95
Tempra Photo CD Software.........................................18.95
The Complete Twain...............................................31.95
The Grammy Awards...Entire 34 year history,pics,45 min+ audio....35.95
The Holy Bible...................................................31.95
Time Almanac 1990................................................14.95
Time Almanac 1991................................................19.95
TimeTable Art/Entertainmnt..Chronology-cultural,4200 stories.....22.95
TimeTable Business/Politics..Chronology-wealth,power,knowledge...22.95
TimeTable History/Science..Chronology-earth/cosmic,6000 stories..18.95
Too Many Fonts..TT,ATM,WFN,1st Pub,ghost script,HP laserjet......16.95
Too Many TypeFonts.514 TT fonts,393 ATM,modifiers,uploaders,more.11.95
TW Reference Library..Web. dict,thesaurus,speller,desk ref,legal.17.95
Total Baseball Encyclopedia..1871 to '91 world series,500+ pics..20.95
Travel in Europe.................................................28.95
Tropical Rainforest..............................................34.95
True Crime Stories...............................................36.95
Twelve Roads to Gettysburg...Comprehensive,MM,interviews,photos..44.95
Ultima Underworld 1 and 2........................................59.95
Unix..Complete sources & binaries,x-windows,tcp/ip..(Pre-orders).27.95
USA State Factbook...............................................32.95
USA Today, the 90s v.1..Multimedia capsule of 90s news/events....27.95
USA Wars-Civil War...Chronology,photos,bios,campaigns,audio......32.95
USA Wars-Korea...'50-'53-photos,stats,glossaries,bios,facts......32.95
USA Wars-Vietnam...Biographies,chronology,facts,audio............32.95
USA Wars-World War II...Detailed text/image/sound presentations..32.95
U.S. Atlas MPC.Explore with maps,state/region/country info,miles.24.95
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6374
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 11:16p
Subj: cd title list 5 of 5 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
U.S. Atlas/Automap...Maps,demographics,enviromental,conversions..24.50
U.S. Civics...Learn USA for those who want to be US citizens.....32.95
U.S. History..(Bureau).1M+ photos,maps,tables,topics,107 books...18.95
U.S. Presidents...Biographies/stats on 41 presidents/1st ladies..32.95
U.S./World Atlas w/Chessmaster & Mavis Beacon (4 Pak)............39.95
U.S./World Atlas...Maps,demograph,conversions,oceanic,area codes.18.95
U.S./World Atlas MPC v3...Windows version........................18.95
VGA Spectrum #2...Thousands of gifs/sound files..................19.95
Visions of Saturn................................................22.95
Wacky Funsters...................................................29.95
Who Killed Sam Rupert...Interactive virtual murder mystery.......28.95
Wild Places...100 stunning photos,50 audio clips-wild America....22.95
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe..........................................57.50
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld......................................59.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6.Revolutionary star fighter/magic-mystery.19.95
Wing Commander w/Secret Missions.................................24.95
Wiz Pack.........................................................11.95
Wolf Pack........................................................44.95
Women of Venus (Swimsuits).......................................20.95
World Atlas MPC...Explore each continent/country of the world....24.95
World View..Sound/piano music-images of earth & solar system.....22.95
World Vista Atlas..Tour 200 countries,music,1M+ pics,MPC.........29.95
World Fact Book..CIA/KGB Yearbook,Hamm.maps,flags,247 countries..17.95
World of Flight...Complete multimedia tour thru world of planes..35.95
World of Trains...Complete multimedia tour thru world of trains..35.95
World Traveler..Hi-rez images,royalty free,pcx/gif,mm slide show.11.95
Wrath of the Demon...............................................22.95
CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)......................................4.85
Jewel Cases.......................................................1.45
Pioneer 600A (Bare)..........729.00...........Cash Price........689.00
Pioneer 600A with Kit........799.00...........Cash Price........769.00
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 6375
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/18/93 11:28a
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> RD> 1) My order was placed on 17th August and read, presumably by you,
> RD> 3) My order was not dealt with until 25th of September.
> That is correct.
I know it's correct and good business practice, which you obviously
DON'T practice would oblige you to request confirmation of the order after this
delay.
> That is correct if you are in the US. I would have been happy to allow
> you to cancel your order. You did not request to do so, so your point
> is invalid.
Hardly, it is YOUR obligation after such a long delay, but it's a
moot point now
> but I think all can see what the story is here. If you had called me
> back 2 weeks after you had placed your order and reminded me, it would
> have also gone out within 3 days.
You were reminded in THIS Echo. Please don't add lies to bad
business practice.
> I apologized for making a mistake
And you don't have to do it again, but you DO have to improve your
attitude towards your customers and you DO have to realise that sticking them
with a $25,- bill for shipping 4 CDs is NOT going to get you into the top-10
business dealers around the country.
Cheers,
--- GEcho 1.01+
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 6376
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/18/93 12:04p
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Continuing my response:
Bleating would be more accurate, but let's see.
> RD> 4) As the order was late, you shipped it out, PARTIALLY filled,
> RD> EXPRESS MAIL.
> Yes....you ordered 5 Adult discs. I had 4 of the 5. You were already
> steamed because your order was late. I had no intention of waiting
> another week till that one particular title came back into stock and
> also letting you continue to bad mouth and flame me because your order
> hadn't showed up.
A couple of polite reminders in this Echo, a stronger message on your
system and NO response. After this I am entitled to get a little steamed.
> As to the EXPRESS MAIL, that is the way most customers overseas like to
> get their orders.
BULLSHIT! I do NOT like having to pay $25,- to get 4 CDs from
ANYWHERE. A previous order to Boris, for 3 CDs, took about 6 days in the post,
normal from the US and the postage cost was $4,- and change.
Doug, it is my firm belief that you did this in good intent (it was
entirely misdirected however), it does not change the fact that I got ripped
off for $25,- shipping which I had NO expectation of having to pay. To have to
pay that much for shipping on top of a 5 week delay for delivery is BULLSHIT
business practice and you have NO business making business in that way. If you
lose customers through this excercise, you have ONLY yourself to blame. Crying
innocence in this matter does you absolutely NO good whatsoever. Most, DECENT,
dealers would have done something else to satisfy an irate customer, but you
appear to be much too proud for that, simply protesting that this is "normal"
practice, WHICH IT AIN'T.
> On multiple disc orders, there is little difference
> betweem Express Mail and Air Parcel Post, and Express Mail is the usual
> desired choice.
3 CDs from Boris = $4,- and change
4 CDs from you = $25,-
Send me the "little" difference and we got a deal. This is BULLSHIT
and as a customer I protest your IMPUDENT lies.
> You DID NOT SPECIGY what method of shipping you wanted.
So you automatically use the MOST expensive. Nice going.
> If you want to debate this, I will be glad to post your message for all
> to see who is right.
In that I did not specify what postage rate to use, you are correct.
Why did you not ship it DHL, then I would have had in 48 hours and had to pay
over $100,- shipping?
> Here is where you continue to not state the FACTS, which doesn't
> surprise me. Like I stated above, Express Mail is usually chosen by
> most, and you can't complain about it since you didn't bother to tell me
> what method you wanted.
I'm not complaining about that, I'm complaining about YOUR choosing,
at MY expense, the most expensive mail system, in order to make up for YOUR
mistake in not getting the package out within a reasonable time. How many
times do I have to explain that to the ever correct, always do the best thing,
Mr. Nice guy, Carpenter? Sheesh!
> All shipping charges are paid by the customer.
Naturally, but the customer has a reasonable expectation of low-cost
for shipping charges. Other (respectable) dealers use the normal postal
services. Boris did and no dount Mike does. The ONLY reason you used Express
delivery was because the package was LATE, it was late because of YOUR error,
you already admitted and apologised for that. You had NO right to ship the
package to me, EXPRESS, at my expense. It is VERY poor business practice and
will lose you customers, or at least it SHOULD.
> That is standard business practice.
BULLSHIT! It's only YOUR standard business practice to cover YOUR
errors.
> If I had shipped it by ground, which is the cheapest, you would have
> really bitched, because it takes 30 days or longer to get there.
Really? Did you bother to ask? As a matter of fact I wouldn't have
worried at all as long as the package WAS on the way, but you never even
bothered to ask, did you? You simply shipped it out, by the most EXPENSIVE
mail, at a cost around $20,- more expensive than I should have paid.
> And, NO, you have no right to contiue to be annoyed,as I have filled
> my end of the bargain. A $25 shipping
> charge is normal for overseas orders to get them insured if you happen
> to order 4-5 discs and to get them in a reasonable amount of time. So,
> your argument regarding the Express Mail is hot air.
I don't think so, but at least others are warned about this. I am
angry that I got burned by your sloppy business techniques and needless to say
you will get no more orders from me. Other potential customers have been
warned of the way you do business and hopefully they will put their trust, and
business, into the hands of people who can treat customers with respect and
decency without causing them unwanted and unnecessary cost.
> Yes, I normally have it in stock. As I explained earlier, it wasn't at
> the time of shipment. You assume that I have it on backorder and intend
> on shipping it. I left you a note with your order that you got that I
> was NOT backordering it for you since it would cost you a fortune in
> shipping costs for one CD.
It certainly would the way YOU do business. Yes, that order is
indeed cancelled. You will receive no more orders from me. It WILL be ordered
from a DECENT supplier and doubtless will be shipped at a charge of around $2,-
to $4,- which IS normal for such things.
> I would recommend you buy it elsewhere the next time you order something.
I would go further, I would recommend EVERYONE to buy elsewhere, the
next time they order. There ARE decent suppliers out there and THEY at least
DESERVE to be in business.
> I have treated you more than fairly
That's the REAL problem, isn't it? You REALLY do believe that. One
mistake, compounded by another and "Hey, I'm a nice guy, I've treated you
fairly". Wake up and get real.
> Please go harrass someone else, since you obviously enjoy it.
I don't enjoy this at all, Doug, but it IS necessary in this case.
> You have continued to be obstinate and obnoxious, and I don't need that
> kind of business.
You don't need ANY kind of business at all and going on the way you
are, you will very soon lose it all.
I am out of pocket because of your poor business attitude and if I
can do anything to prevent the same thing from happening to someone else, then
I will do so. Your stubborn defence of almost total incompetance, does you no
good whatsoever and does not bode well for your future as a businessman. In
the end it is the customers who will tell, they have, in your case, been
forwarned.
Cheers,
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 6377
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/18/93 12:04p
Subj: My order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Message length exceeded, split by WILDMAIL! v3.00 <<
>> Continued from previous message <<
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 6378
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/18/93 12:14p
Subj: ron dwight Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I want to take a moment to apologize to Tim and the rest of the members
> of this echo for having to read all this garbage from and to Mr. Ron
> Dwight.
You would be better apologising for the poor way in which you run
your business, the manner in which you handle orders, the excessive costs you
force customers to bear and the arrogance with which you treat them when they
"DARE" to complain. Threatening customers using the words "Libel and Slander"
is NOT good PR.
> Tim, I settled with this guy and he just won't leave it to rest.
An outright LIE! You have settled NOTHING. What you have done is
offer a list of half-baked excuses as to why YOU fouled up and why I had to pay
unexpected additional costs. This is NOT settlement.
> Would you please send the gentlemen an official warning to please take
> this discussion to netmail or cease and desist as noone wants to read all
> this garbage. The gentleman is now becoming very annoyiung and
> obnoxious.
I am not a gentleman, I am the single most important person you will
EVER meet in your entire life. I am a CUSTOMER and other CUSTOMERS should be
informed so that they may make wise buying decisions based upon past
performance. Those customers are now informed of how you conduct business and
how you treat customers after YOU have fouled up.
Strange really, all this could have been avoided when my original
order was shipped with, "Hey man, sorry about the delay, package shipped
(normal Mail) at my expense." You would have been out of pocket 3-4 bucks on
the deal, although not out of profit and would have had another customer. As
it is............. we'll see.
Cheers,
--- GEcho 1.01+
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From: RON DWIGHT Number: 6379
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/18/93 12:20p
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Pat,
> PR> person know the money was in the mail. Could you
> PR> please tell how and where I make replys, any help
> PR> would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife
> Replies should be sent by netmail. That way only the sender has to pay
> for them.
Replies for orders and such, one to one correspondance with a dealer,
should be sent "crash" or "Direct" NetMail. Altenatively via some other
Network than Fidonet.
FidoNet is an amateur organisation in which every SysOp pays his/her
own costs. It is not deemed reasonable that businesses should use the network
for the purposes of profit, on the backs of those volunteers. The situation in
EchoMail is somewhat anomolous and strained right now, but ROUTING NetMail
orders and such could (I said could, not would <grin>) get the echo into
problems with the Fidonet backbone operators.
Basically, if you wish to place an order then use CRASH or DIRECT
NetMail and NOT routed NetMail. Another alternative would be to use the
vendor's BBS. Thanks for reading.
Cheers,
--- GEcho 1.01+
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From: RICK ROSINSKI Number: 6380
To: ALL Date: 10/16/93 10:52a
Subj: Hobbes OS/2 CD for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For Sale:
Used Hobbes OS/2 CD-ROM dated 11/92. $10, includes shipping.
If interested, respond here or via netmail at 1:239/1004.
I can also be reached on my BBS at 517-695-9952 or by voice at 517-695-2256
(after 6:00 p.m. EST).
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6381
To: JD BROWN Date: 10/19/93 7:13p
Subj: A Public Appeal Refer: 9806
Read: NO Private: No
-> Direct one on one transactions are a violation of Fidonet policy. Thi
-> NOT a commercial network. RIME, is a commercial network. You must PAY
-> to join.
The moderators of FidoNet conferences should be required to pay for
thier echos. That would solve everybody's problems.
Are you the same "James D. Brown" who stirred up all the stink in CDROM
about a year an a half ago? Just curious....
tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6382
To: RON DWIGHT Date: 10/19/93 7:05p
Subj: ron dwight Refer: 9839
Read: NO Private: No
-> force customers to bear and the arrogance with which you treat them w
-> "DARE" to complain. Threatening customers using the words "Libel and
-> is NOT good PR.
->
-> > Tim, I settled with this guy and he just won't leave it to rest.
->
-> An outright LIE! You have settled NOTHING. What you have
-> offer a list of half-baked excuses as to why YOU fouled up and why I
Yall stop it! EOT.
tim
moderator
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 6383
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/17/93 5:35p
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Doug Carpenter beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
DC> RL> This net is riddles with unreasonable rules and quite a few nazi-
DC> RL> dicatators called moderators (not here though) who are completely
DC>
DC>There you are wrong. If it wasn't for moderation, people would go cra
You didn't catch my drift Doug. I fully agree that we need moderators
here. My point is that the moderators need to be moderated in the worst
way in some conferences.
Ron
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * NO special rights for behavior!
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From: RONALD LEON Number: 6384
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/17/93 5:36p
Subj: CLIPART CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Brice Fleckenstein beamed onto the Enterprise and said:
BF>>Can someone reccommend a GODD Clipart CD.
BF>
BF>Colormagic has gotten a lot of good mentions....
Thanks!
* WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * Red ribbons do nothing to help AIDS patients.
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* Origin: Mr. Bills Place BBS! ** Tampa, FL ** (813) 920-2193 (1:3603/170)
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From: KEN BANISTER Number: 6385
To: MARK CLARDY Date: 10/12/93 5:45p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Catalog! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am interested in receiving your catalog. Please send a copy to "16 Bearberry
Crescent N.W. Calgary Alberta Canada T3K 1R2".
Thanks.
Ken
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* Origin: TechTalk; Calgary, Alberta, CANADA, HST 16.8/V.32bis (1:134/40)
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From: KEN BANISTER Number: 6386
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/12/93 5:52p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM PRICE$ 1 of 3 Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
I would like to get a catalog and find out if you ship to Canada. My address
is
"16 Bearberry Crs. N.W. Calgary, Alberta Canada T3K 1R2."
Thanks,
Ken
... Nobody notices when things go right.
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* Origin: TechTalk; Calgary, Alberta, CANADA, HST 16.8/V.32bis (1:134/40)
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6387
To: RICHARD WICKER Date: 10/18/93 5:32p
Subj: Adult GIFs on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD. I have
> Stareware. I
> know of the Storm collection. What are the other titles I should be
> looking
> for, and how do you rate them?
I have both Storm I and III and I'd say Storm III is the better of the two,
storm I has a lot of dupes, some gifs that have defects and a bunch of bbs
doors which in my opionin was to fill the disk. They do have file listings not
sure how much trouble to use a on bbs since I don't.
Mike Harris
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From: FRANK GRESH Number: 6388
To: JOE RINEHART Date: 10/18/93 10:55p
Subj: ADULT CD-DISC Titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR>House of Dreams Digital Movies a 48.00
JR>Night Trips Interactive Adult a 51.20
Joe, could I ask you to expand on these two disks a little? I am
especially interested in the HOD Digital Movie, and what the system
requirements might be, and secondly, what exactly is an "interactive" cd
title, I understand the principal of interaction, but am a little
curious as to how it is applied on an adult CD.
Thanks....Frank
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* SLMR 2.1a * I'm going to walk to Uranus--and kick it!
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* Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA (813)969-1089 USR 16.8DS (1:377/50)
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From: LARRY HUEGELE Number: 6389
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/18/93 12:58a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Replying to a message originally to All on Oct-13-93
SG> FOR A FREE CATALOG OR TO PLACE AN ORDER , WRITE TO:
SG> STEVE GREENO
SG> 1275 E. PRINCE
SG> TUCSON AZ. 85719
Please send your free catalog to:
Larry Huegele
910 Highknoll Ct. #46
Villa Hills, KY 41017
I just recently got a CD-ROM drive and NEED some cd's!
TTYLaterz....
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* Origin: Club Changez Northern Kentucky- 606-331-2663 (1:108/200)
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From: LARRY HUEGELE Number: 6390
To: STEVE GREENO Date: 10/18/93 1:03a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG 10/13/93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How does one go about ordering
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 ... $25
from you?
TTYLaterz....
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* Origin: Club Changez Northern Kentucky- 606-331-2663 (1:108/200)
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From: AL TUFANO Number: 6391
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 6:52p
Subj: CD-ROM controller card wanted. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Wanted a Hiatchi 40 pin internal controller card. Will pay for shipping.
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* Origin: The Main Frame BBS! Eldred, NY (914)557-3567 (1:272/85)
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 6392
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 8:18p
Subj: Custom CD-ROM $75 ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
- Confidentiality is assured
- $75 per CD-ROM (mention this add)
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA 15317
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING. IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
Signed ______________________________
Your Signature
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 6393
To: LARRY FOSTER Date: 10/18/93 8:56p
Subj: Custom CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The cost for 10 of the same CD comes out to $480. This will be shipped UPS
ground unless otherwise specified by you.
If you have any questions, you can fax or leave a message at
(412) 942-4694.
- Adrian Vergot
CD-ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA 15317
P.S. Please remember the disclaimer
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From: ANDY ESTRONICK Number: 6394
To: ALL Date: 10/17/93 10:53p
Subj: CDROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, I'm looking for a CDROM player .. very cheap , it can be as slow as
hell i don't care. BUT it must be scsi and external.
--- DLG Pro v1.0/DLGMail
* Origin: Mike's Video House - Glendale, CA 818-240-1593 (1:102/852)
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From: MARCIAL MORENO Number: 6395
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 10:46p
Subj: Cd-rom disc's for sale!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@SUBJECT:CD-ROM DISC's FOR SALE!!!! N
CD-ROM DISC's
Nightowl 10 ................... $34.50ea
Software Vault Vol 2........... $21.00ea
Phoenix Vol 4 ................. $24.00ea
Shareware Studio III .......... $30.00ea
SoundWav I .................... $27.00ea
Super Smutware Vol 2 .......... $27.00ea
Local Girls 3 in 1 CD ......... $26.00ea
Island Girls 3 in 1 CD ........ $26.00ea
******* All prices include shipping and handling in the USA ********
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ADD 8.25% TAX
Check or Money orders to:
Mega-ROM SoftWare
13724 Saranac Dr.
Whittier, CA 90605-4229
(310) 941-8074
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* Origin: The Mega-ROM BBS of Whittier, CA (310) 944-2327 (1:103/304)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6396
To: VIKKI CLAYTON Date: 10/18/93 9:10p
Subj: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hot Pix 1 goes for about $99 from the places that do sell them.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6397
To: MARK SANCHEZ Date: 10/18/93 9:18p
Subj: Lowest price CD-ROMS! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> Call Lee at Brainchild Computer Distributions for the best price on
MS> Mitsumi CD-ROMs. 350ms access and 150k/sec transfer rate. Controller
MS> included..... $169.00!
MS> Mark
MS> BCD
MS> 800-972-9263
MS> Local, 972-9263
MS> Tampa, FL!
Excellent price. If I see anyone looking, I'll send them your way.
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* Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6398
To: MICHAEL APPELBAUM Date: 10/18/93 9:20p
Subj: CD Multidisk Changer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MA> Anyone have any prices on Multidisk Changers?
MA> Michael Appelbaum
MA> -GeoNet BBS (617) 784 -5619
PCJ Computing proudly announces lower pricing on the
Pioneer DRM600A 6 disc CD-ROM changers.
The new, lower pricing is listed below.
Drive Access time (avg) Disc change time
------------------------------------------------------------------
DRM600A 600ms 5 - 7 sec.
Pricing:
************ CASH ONLY Pricing *********
Drive Bare drive Kit (inc card/cable)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
DRM600A $689.00 <-(Delivered)-> $769.00
International sales and shipping welcome. Contact us by fax or leave a
message here if you are outside the USA and we will be happy to quote a
price for shipping to anywhere in the world. No CODs accepted on these.
** Get your best price on the 600A and we'll meet or beat it. **
** CONTACT US FOR SPECIAL BUNDLE PRICING WITH 3 CDS MINIMUM **
If interested, contact Doug Carpenter at PCJ Computing.
Toll Free (800) 547-7817 (Orders only, please!)
Voice (615) 476-4026 FAX (615) 479-1047 BBS (615) 478-2890
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* Origin: MAXspeed/ISDN BBS * 3775 cps..and accelerating!! (1:362/119)
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From: TOM HUNT Number: 6399
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 10/18/93 7:07p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Do you know where I can pick up the Hot Pix 1 for $25-$30
thanks
*FSED91j*
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* Origin: C:Directory 919-787-6211 Raleigh,NC 16.8DS AMIGA (1:151/115.0)
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From: AL BUNDY Number: 6400
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/18/93 10:13p
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE LIST 3/3 Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
--- GEcho 1.00
* Origin: South West Corner BBS 416-579-5606 OSHAWA, ONTARIO (1:229/440)
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From: ALLEN COX Number: 6401
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 9:23p
Subj: bbs cd's ??? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello i'm looking for some new CDs for the bbs, I try to run something
that not to many people have as i like my bbs to be different from the
rest,
can someone out there recomend a good adult and shareware cd?
currently i'm running storm III for adult, and softwarevault for the
shareware.
allen
p.s can also send responses to fido address of 1:395/26
or call mt bbs (The Midnight Run at 817-698-3922)
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* Origin: NDR, Killeen TX 1-817-634-4573 (1:395/18)
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From: TONY DAVIS Number: 6402
To: JAMES PORTER Date: 10/19/93 6:44a
Subj: BBS DEFENSE FUND Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Will you be generating receipt for donations????
Yes.
Tony
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* Origin: The Out-On-Bail BBS <405-386-6760> - (1:147/1)
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From: DANIEL PARDUE Number: 6403
To: LARRY HUEGELE Date: 10/19/93 11:27a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> FOR A FREE CATALOG OR TO PLACE AN ORDER , WRITE TO:
> STEVE GREENO
> 1275 E. PRINCE
> TUCSON AZ. 85719
Please send a catalog to:
Daniel Pardue
29 Melrose Dr.
Marrero, LA 70072
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* Origin: Dan's Domain New Orleans, LA (1:396/27.4)
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From: PAT GANNON Number: 6404
To: DON KAHLUA Date: 10/17/93 8:17p
Subj: Why is the file section gone? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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* Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7)
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 6405
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 9:03p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive for sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom dirve for sale for $165 or best
offer.
It has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the
software, manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came
with the drive. Everything
in brand new condition! please call (410) 442-2726 if you are
interested.
It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
ONLY $165 or best offer!
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* Origin: The Rainbow Zen - Fallston, Md - (410)893-8255 (1:2617/108)
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 6406
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 9:05p
Subj: Cd-rom Drive for sale! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom dirve for sale for $165 or best
offer.
It has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the
software, manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came
with
the drive. Everything in brand new condition! please call (410)
442-2726 if
you are interested. It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
ONLY $165 or best offer!
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: The Rainbow Zen - Fallston, Md - (410)893-8255 (1:2617/108)
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From: BOBBY WIENHOLT Number: 6407
To: DAVID ROBERTS Date: 10/18/93 11:09p
Subj: Re: Cd rom list 3 of 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> BW> Guiness Disc of Records 1993 $40
->
-> Would you be interested in trading an original Busty Babes for the
-> above disk and a Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia? If so, give me a
-> call at 808-624-1293.
->
->
-> ... Just what do they teach training bras anyway?
-> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
-> --- GEcho 1.00
-> * Origin: The Homeboy Shopping Network - 808-624-1294 (1:345/23)
Sorry... no trades.
--- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93
* Origin: The Rainbow Zen - Fallston, Md - (410)893-8255 (1:2617/108)
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 6408
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 11:37p
Subj: Assembler Source/Utilities CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Assembler CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
400 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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* Origin: Infinite Perspectives (1:109/519)
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From: TOM ROSETTI Number: 6409
To: RICHARD WICKER Date: 10/18/93 7:02p
Subj: Adult GIFs on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD.
HotPix 1-5.
Tom
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* Origin: Sorcerer's Apprentice (410) 586-2132 (1:109/549.510)
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From: PAUL CHATFIELD Number: 6410
To: ROBERT MOORE Date: 10/16/93 7:54p
Subj: Hitachi CD ROM Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RM> I recently purchased four Hitachi CD ROM 3500 drives.
RM> The place where I bought them does not have anymore. I
RM> would like to purchase more of the Hitachi 3500/3600
RM> series drives. I have seen prices ranging from $60 to
Contact "Terry Blount" via net mail in the usa...he may have some left...i got
9 from him some time back.....Good Luck
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6411
To: VIKKI CLAYTON Date: 10/18/93 11:04p
Subj: Re: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <10-16-93 21:07> Vikki Clayton wrote:
VC>> > TH>> Hot Pix 1
VC>> I have this. How valuable is it ???!?!?
VC>> Enquiring minds want to know !
It has never been thought of as a commodity that commands outrageous bucks--it
still can be found, but I know that alot of the Hot Pix Series are out of press
for good--Perhaps in a few years this could change :)
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6412
To: MARK ELSON Date: 10/18/93 11:13p
Subj: CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Mike Shannon <10-16-93 23:36> Mark Elson wrote:
ME>> is the new Busty Babes out yet??
Yup, We shipped to the distributors on Monday.
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 6413
To: JEFF JENKINS Date: 10/18/93 11:15p
Subj: Re: Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to All <10-16-93 07:11> Jeff Jenkins wrote:
JJ>> Can Kodak photo CD pictures be converted to the .GIF format or
JJ>> viewed with any other software?
JJ>> anyone...?
I believe Tempra Access by Mathematica (its on CD-ROM) allows this--Well, thats
what they said at the CES show during the demo's--
-=*>Lee<*=-
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* Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS, Deltona FL (904)789-6843 (1:3618/23)
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 6414
To: PETE PASZKOWSKI Date: 10/18/93 8:45a
Subj: Re: Used CD-ROM drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Pete -
PP> Anyone out there have a used CD-ROM drive for sale? I'm
PP> looking to expand my BBS but don't want to buy another
PP> new CD-ROM. Let me know if you have one for sale.....
Mitsumi LU-005S CD-ROM drive (only 1), like new, complete
with controller and updated driver software (I will also
include the OS/2 drivers if you wish).
This is the faster of the two single-spin Mitsumis currently
available (350ms access and 150k/sec transfer rate), reads
MULTI-SESSION photo CD's, and is fully MPC compliant.
I will include a THREE-DISC set of shareware, with a total
of over 20,000 programs.
Price: $210.00 (U.S.), and I'll pay the shipping.
In addition, if you would like Photo-CD software, I can add
the Tempra Access CD-ROM to the package for an additional $25.
Reply in this echo, or by NetMail to 1:141/950.1, or
(voice) 203-746-1195 (M-F, 9-5)
203-746-1727 (eves, weekends)
- Arnie :+}
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* Origin: The Magnificent MIDI Machine (1:141/950.1)
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 6415
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: BUSTY BABES V1#3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
=======================================================================
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
=======================================================================
=======================================================================
The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0
]]] SIZE: 528 Megs
]]] FILES: 3248
]]] PUBLISHER: Florida Lions Den, Inc.
]]] CATEGORY: Adult, End User & BBS Ready
]]] DATED: 07-19-93
This is release 3.0 of the very famous Busty Babes disc. This is not
really a "new title" but a rework of the original BBS disc. If you
have a copy of the older disc, you may or may not want a copy of the
newer version, depending on your needs. I'll explain more on that
later.
The new ShowOff routines were rather fascinating, but a bit slow for me
to operate. Some of the features of it are rather neat, I must admit,
such as the ability to see the "file description" when you move your
mouse over the image in question.
The images on this disc are, for the most part, scans culled from BBS's
around the country. I can't honestly say that they might be culled from
other CD's, because Busty Babes predates most of the adult CD's on the
market today! <smile!> It's more likely that any culling done was done
*From* Busty Babes, rather than *by* Busty Babes.
Because of these sources, some of the images are nice, some of them are
not all that whoopie. Typical of BBS scans, in my opinion. You have
some really good scanners out there, and some not-so-good scanners.
Regarding the "perhaps you need it, perhaps you don't" message, let me
explain: If you are an "end user" and have an earlier copy, there is
very little new here for you. The major difference between this
release and prior releases is the Showoff interface, and the removal of
certain "sensitive" files (ie: copyrighted material that was
inadvertently placed on the disc). As an end user, this is probably
not enough to make it worth your while to switch to the new version.
If you are a SysOp, however, it might be a very good idea to switch
to the new title. The removal of the "sensitive" images makes it a
much safer disc to run online, and in this rather litigative society
that we all live in, the more protection you have, the better.
The files are classified by subject, as per the norm with Florida
Lion's Den products.
BBS Readiness is supplied by adding a "FILES.BBS" list to each
subdirectory, in the following format:
AA_12367.GIF [0] Graphic File Description Placed Here
This is not an easy format to convert to other BBS systems. Luckily,
for the less intrepid out there, there is a file called ALLFILES.LST in
the root directory that has file listings in this format:
ACTION_2.GIF 210155 13-Jul-93 [0] Graphic File Description Placed Here
While not perfect by any means, this one is a LOT easier to convert into
useful formats than the prior one. However, all the file listings are
in one big text list, and you will have to use your favorite editor to
break it into appropriate chunks, as well as making the changes to make
them into your format of choice. While not preferable, the inclusion of
this file does make converting the disc a LOT easier. I hate having to
convert discs from the abreviated "FILES.BBS" format that is used on a
lot of discs these days.
The file SYSOP.DOC in the root directory indicates that there are utils
contained for converting their provided file listings into several
different formats. I looked for one listed, Spitfire, the BBS software
that I run, and came up with nothing usable for conversion.
Personally, I feel that a BBS ready disc sh--- TBBS v2.1/NM
* Origin: The News Times - Danbury, Ct (203) 792-NEWS (1:141/920)
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From: DAVE CLARK Number: 6416
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/03/93 3:50a
Subj: CD-ROM REVIEW: SHAREWARE EXPLORER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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=== CD-ROM DISC REVIEW - ARSENAL COMPUTER ===
=== P. O. BOX 5723, TOPEKA, KANSAS 66605 ===
=== VOICE (913) 234-4146 FAX (913) 234-8528 BBS (913) 234-9395 ===
=======================================================================
=======================================================================
The Following is a CD-ROM "review." The opinions expressed belong
solely to Dave Clark, Sysop of Arsenal Computer BBS.
]]] TITLE: Shareware Explorer
]]] SIZE: [1] 447 Megs [2] 482 Megs [3] 523 Megs [4] 498 Megs
]]] FILES: [1] 8688 [2] 6083 [3] 5084 [4] 6996
]]] PUBLISHER: New Frontiers CD-ROMs
]]] CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready
]]] DATED: 08-06-93
I approached this set wondering to myself if they had managed to break
the "multi-disc cruddiness" that I've noticed in other multi-disc
collections. By this, I mean that with one notable exception, every
multi-disc set that I've come across has been rather... annoying.
They had several problems, too many to bother with mentioning here.
The only exception was World Vision.
World Vision still holds that title in my book.
I started out by browsing the disc looking for highlights. And boy,
did I find them, in spades. But, I'll get to that later, and take
this in my normal pattern.
When attempting to install the end user interface, I was greeted by two
executable files... a GO.BAT and an INSTALL.EXE. I selected the GO.BAT
at first, and found, much to my annoyance, that it only displayed text
files. I read some of them, found some useful and a lot of totally
useless information, and went on to the INSTALL.EXE. After supplying
the data that it requested, it installed the program to my hard drive,
and I was off.
Or was I? It turns out that the install did nothing more than install
a short batchfile that referred to nothing in particular in regards to
the disc, or the interface program. Feeling that NOTHING could be
THAT dumb, I decided to have other people test the disc to see if they
could make it work, or if it really was as dumb as it looked.
I put my wife, Korene, in front of it, and offered no help. I figured
that this would be a good test, simulating someone that doesn't know
DOS as an expert and would have to use the user interface. After
several minutes of utter confusion trying to make heads or tails of
what it was doing, she ended up with the exact same results that I got.
In other words, nothing. When asked what she thought of the user
interface on the disc, her reply was short and to the point.
Unfortunately, it cannot be reprinted here.
Korene works at a local VA Hospital as a computer processing manager,
but her knowledge of DOS systems is not up to her professional
knowledge. She normally works with the voice activated systems that
she has to maintain. Luckily, my system is not voice activated, because
I'm not sure how it would have interpreted the string of "commands"
that she gave it once she was done attempting to make it work.
Ok, last chance... I turned Scott Reigle loose on it. Scott is the
SysOp of Farkem Asylum, a gaming board. Scott has configured several
hundred different BBS programs for his board, and I figured that he was
our last, greatest hope.
Well, Scott tried a different tactic, got different messages, and ended
up with the exact same results. Yeesh. Scott's reaction was, while
not quite as colorful as Korene's, quite enlightening. Something that
I cannot say about the software.
I finally got the software operational using the /nowrite option and
running it right from the CD-ROM. What greeted me was one of the
slowest CD-ROM interfaces that I've ever had the misfortune to come
across.
To say that I wasn't pleased would be an understatement.
Ok, lets go look at the BBS readiness of the disc....
The files in t--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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]]] TITLE: Tech Arsenal
]]] SIZE: 629 Megs
]]] FILES: 7441
]]] PUBLISHER: Arsenal Computer
]]] CATEGORY: Shareware/BBS Ready/End User Ready
]]] DATED: 09-03-93
No, you are not seeing things.... we here at the Arsenal really DID
publish this disc! <smile!> However, lest you think that I'm going
to be self serving here, let me emphasize one thing... I always offer
a money back guarantee on any disc that I sell, and of course, my
stuff is going to be given the same treatment... <smile!> I'm going
to give this the same going over that I do any other disc, and I'm going
to be just as frank as I would for anyone else. I don't play favorites
here.
Of course, let's face one fact... why in the h*ll would I make a disc
that I would have to trash? <SEG!> I have been looking at everyone
else's product, so I know what goes, and what doesn't, and I designed
my disc accordingly.
So, with that out of the way, here goes.
Tech Arsenal deals solely with technical subjects, such as programming
utilities and source code, Local Area Networking, dBase programming and
applications, Anti-Virus utilities, Text & Hex Editors, Caching, Testing
and Diagnostics, Drivers, Backup & Data Recovery, Computer Aided Design,
Desqview & QEMM, and even HAM radio & Scanner material is covered on
this disc.
File dates are from September 1993 to 1990 on source code (due to the
fact that, by and large, source code is "ageless") and the programs
have dates ranging from September 1993 to 1991. However, please bear
in mind that if a filedate is 1991 or 1992, then it's because no later
version was found.
Dupliacation of filenames was kept to a strict minimum. Why not
entirely gone, you might ask? Simply put, I found some duplicate
filenames in two areas, with files that had NOTHING to do with each
other, and in some cases, there were utilities that really did have
application in multiple file areas, such as a programming utility that
would be used in C/ASM, Basic, and Pascal... so it appeared in each
section, rather than making the people interested only in one section
have to go "hunting" for it in others. These files are on there
quite intentionally to make it easier to use. However, the percentage
of such files is VERY small.
BBS readiness is very apparent (go figure!). File listings are provided
in PCBoard, Spitfire, and QBBS formats, with a Database of the file
Descriptions available on the disc as well, so that you can create your
own very easily, if you so desire. All but the DBF files are available
in both the referenced file subdirectory, and in a separate file
subdirectory. The "all in one" setup allows door users (such as myself)
ease of use, while the file listings in each directory means that those
that either with to run "native" (with the disc directly accessed by the
BBS) or those with specific conversion utilities, such as TBBS SysOps,
are not left out in the cold.
The subdirectory structure is quite simple, with the files contained in
subdirectories named TEK-01 through TEK-21. The File listings are in
/FILELIST, and the information for SysOps is contained in the
subdirectory /SYSOPS. Simple enough, eh? <Grin!>
Some additonal note should be paid to the user interface on this...
in a rather "unusual" move, the user interface was not the usual
program that people have come to expect, but the EZRom Door interface,
as wr--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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]]] TITLE: Total Fantasy Disc 1
]]] SIZE: 621 Megs
]]] FILES: 4149
]]] PUBLISHER: STC CDROM of Denmark
]]] CATEGORY: Adult CD-ROM
]]] DATED: 06-29-93
This disc comes in a rather blatant red coloration... red disc, red
tray, red printing, etc. Certainly something that would be hard to not
see sitting on the shelf...
Well, here are some of the things that I noted about the disc...
The disc "failed" the "louisville slugger" test... no, this does not
mean that I took a baseball bat to the disc, although I sometimes feel
that this would be the most useful thing to do to some discs. But in
this case, it refers to whether or not a disc contains an image known as
"BATTERUP.GIF." This is one of the more tasteless images in wide
distribution, and it consists of a woman with a baseball bat in a place
that it really doesn't belong. The inclusion of this image shows the
following detrimental points: [1] that the disc is comprised of images
that have already been seen on CD-ROM's and [2] that the publishers have
no taste whatsoever! <smile!>
Most of the images are either culled from BBS's, or other CD-ROM's.
I've seen a large number of the "samples" that I went through (no, I
didn't go through the entire disc, I simply don't have the time or
patience to do that, especially with a product like this) and found most
of them to be rather disappointing. The best images that I came across
were the SPCR*.GIF series in the BUSTY subdirectory, but even those had
some poor quality images and one was a mosaic of nothing more than three
very small scans repeated three or four times each on a bland
background. Very, Very, VERY annoying.
The user interface consisted of a program that would attempt to install
the users choice of some versions of VPIC. Yawn.
Spying a directory called PENT on the disc, I checked and found that
the very first file was described as "Julie Strain, Penthouse Pet June
1991." I think that someone really is asking for trouble here. These
images are very obviously scanned from Penthouse magazine, and the
file descriptions openly admit this.
The problem is that not only is Penthouse a copyrighted material, but
they offer their own online service, and have been taking as militant
a stance in enforcing their copyrights as has Playboy. Perhaps this
Denmark based publisher thinks that they are immune from copyright
suits, but us BBS operators here in America are NOT granted such
immunity. I think that this is really asking for trouble.
Needless to say, I wouldn't even THINK about running this on a BBS.
This disc has files arranged by alphabet, and by a handful of
categories.
The BBS readiness (ha ha) has been supplied by putting in some alleged
"file descriptions" of the following nature: Each subdirectory has
file listings with "FILES.BBS" and "FILES.BB1" on them. The "FILES.BBS"
listings look like this:
DANAXT02.GIF Rather Graphic Text Description
The FILES.BB1 listings look like this:
DANAXT02.GIF (640X480X256) Rather Graphic Text Description
Needless to say, if you are running most boards, this form of file
description is totally useless.
Overall impressions: For the end user, a totally useless interface and
repetition of images found elsewhere make this a poor buy. For the
sysop, the repetition of images and the very poor file description
format makes this one a pain and a half to --- TBBS v2.1/NM
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]]] TITLE: Wild Women
]]] SIZE: 602 Megs
]]] FILES: 2836
]]] PUBLISHER: Digital Concepts
]]] CATEGORY: Adult / BBS Ready
]]] DATED: 07-16-93
Wild Women is something that I am kind of ambivilant on. When I look
at the disc itself, it strongly resembles the "look and feel" of the
Florida Lions Den products on the exterior artwork. Of course, this
is not the first time that someone has "borrowed" the look and feel
of another's artwork... <grin!>
Getting beyond the rather "familiar" artwork, I got into the disc....
The BBS readyness of the disc is supplied in two forms: each directory
has a FILES.BBS listing in it (in PCBoard Format), and all the file
listings are in the /FILELIST subdirectory as well. You will also find
a ZIP file of the file listings in DBF format. The DBF listings are a
nice touch, and it's showing up on more and more CD-ROM's these days,
offering the enterprising SysOp a chance to make the listings look the
way they need them. One annoying thing about the DBF listings was that
they provided the file categories as separate DBF files, rather than
having one large one with a ID field. I personally prefer the ID field
variant, myself.
The images are obviously BBS scans originally. I didn't see any images
that I recalled in a quick once over, but I did recognize all the
"major player" scanners logos. As is to be expected in a product of
this nature, some of the scans were excellent, some were... somewhat
less than excellent.
I found the user interface to be a bit underwhelming, as I usually do.
The menu system was a shareware product from Pinnace Systems, and it
worked well... but when it came to actually viewing the images with
the menu, I ended up with a blank screen. This happens in about 1/2
of the discs that I look at.
Looking over some of the legal textfiles in the disc, I had a few
laughs... for example, the statement that "all of the models shown on
this CD-Rom are of legal age to pose for these pictures, and that by
posing for such pictures it is understood that they do not necessarily
indulge in the acts shown or even practice any of the various sexual
activities." Pfft! Lets face it, this is a collection of BBS scans...
how is the publisher going to know all of this? <Grin!>
Another thing that I find amusing is the fact that the publisher is
stating that the "verboten" images, such as Playboy and Compuserve,
are not in evidence, but again, we are dealing with BBS scans here,
with no real "back trail" to follow to insure compliance with this.
Take this "warrantee" at your own risk.
Overall, I find this a decent enough disc, with the kind of quality
that one would expect in a BBS Scan Stills collection. It is neither
better or worse than any other of it's class. The file listings make
it easier to use online than some competing products, I'll give it that.
Overall, I would give this a thumbs up... a few months ago. It's a fine
disc, but some BBS SysOps are getting away from traditional BBS scans
for their online images, due to legal fears. This one, unlike discs lik
Digital Dreams or Amateur Models, don't have any real assurance that
the images are NOT going to cause problems. Therefor, it's a kind of
gray zone that we are dealing with here.
If you don't mind living in the "Gray Zone", and want a decent quality
selection of BBS Scans, then Wild Women will probably sa--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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* 628mb total
* Separate <ASP> directory.
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* Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
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File stats for Pier 3:
92 File % Apx 'K' % 93 File % Apx 'K' %
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1 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 1 5 0.1% 1,708 0.3%
2 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 2 6 0.1% 1,066 0.2%
3 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 3 47 1.0% 5,508 0.9%
4 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 4 501 11.0% 70,354 11.2%
5 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 5 693 15.2% 94,210 15.0%
6 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 6 1,244 27.4% 164,183 26.1%
7 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 7 1,054 23.2% 156,138 24.8%
8 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 8 572 12.6% 79,892 12.7%
9 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 9 421 9.3% 55,188 8.8%
10 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 10 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
11 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 11 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
12 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 12 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
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0 0.0% 0 0.0% 4,543 99.9% 628,247 99.8%
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That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!
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1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00 Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
5-Star Premium Windows........27.00 Middle East Diary.............35.00
7th Guest.....................39.00 MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00 Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00 Monarch Notes.................57.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00 Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
American Business Phonebk 91..17.00 Monster Media 93..............33.00
American Business Phonebk 92..19.00 Mother Earth 2................28.00
American Business Phonebk 93..25.00 Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00 MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00 Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00 National Geographic Mammals...25.00
Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50 National Parks................24.50
Arizona Images (New!).........25.00 Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00 Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
Audubon's Birds...............23.00 Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
Audubon's Mammals.............23.00 Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
Battle Chess..................25.00 Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00 Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
Beauty and the Beast..........32.50 Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....35.00
Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50 Night Owl Business............24.00
Bible Library.................28.50 Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
Bibles & Religion.............13.00 Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
Britannica Family Choice......33.50 North American Fax Book.......36.00
Britannica Select Software....33.50 Officer's Bookcase............38.00
Business Assistant (New!).....13.00 Original Shareware............10.00
Business Master...............20.00 OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
C User's Group Library........31.00 Our Solar System..............13.00
California Collection.........17.00 PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00 PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
Career Opportunities..........29.00 PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50 PC Gameroom...................27.00
CD Powerbox 1.01..............15.00 PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
CD Winbox 1.01................25.00 Pentomino.....................32.00
Chessmaster 3000..............27.00 Peter and the Wolf............27.00
CIA World Fact Book...........23.00 Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
CICA Windows Shareware........16.00 Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00 Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
Clipart Galore................28.00 Pier 2........................29.00
Clipart Goliath...............13.00 Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
Clipart Heaven................25.00 Pier 2/3 Pak..................59.00
Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00 Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
Colossal Cookbook.............13.00 Pixel Garden..................34.00
Complete Bookshop.............13.00 Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
Composer Quest................34.00 Plant Doctor..................37.00
Compton's Interactive Ency....95.00 PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00 Precision Mapping (New!)......77.00
Computer Reference Library....13.00 Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
Conan the Cimmerian......--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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Consumer Information Disc.....37.50 Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
Cookbook Heaven...............23.00 ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 99.00
Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00 ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
Dagger of Amon Ra.............36.00 Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00 Publish-It 2.0................29.00
Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00 Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00 Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
Desert Storm..................36.00 Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
Desktop Bookshop..............27.50 QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
Dictionaries & Language.......13.00 Reader's Library..............28.50
Dictionary of Living World....38.50 Reel Clips (New!).............35.00
Dinosaur Adventure............33.00 Reference Library.............27.50
Dinosaurs!....................34.00 Roger Ebert Movie Companion...39.00
Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00 Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00 Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00 Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00 Shakespeare...................17.50
DTPro.........................28.50 Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......54.00
Education Master..............20.00 Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00 Shareware Online 1............25.00
Electronic Home Library.......29.00 Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
Empire Clipart................19.50 Shareware Overload............13.00
Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00 Shareware Studio 1............19.00
Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00 Shareware Studio 2............23.00
European Monarchs.............35.00 Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
Family Doctor.................26.00 Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
Firearms Reference (New!).....30.00 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
Font Master 1.................19.00 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
Font Master 2.................28.00 Sights & Sounds...............25.00
Food Analyst..................36.50 Simtel 20.....................16.00
Fresh Arte....................36.00 So Much Screenware............28.00
Game Arena (New!).............13.00 So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
Game Master...................20.00 So Much Shareware 2...........25.00
Game Pack 2...................27.00 So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
Games 1993....................25.00 Software Vault 1..............22.00
Gameware Collection...........24.00 Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50 Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
Gardening (New!)..............13.00 Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50 Sound Sensations..............13.00
Giga Games (New!).............25.00 Sound Works...................19.00
Global Explorer...............93.00 Soundware Collection..........27.00
Golden Immortal...............25.00 SoundWAV......................25.00
Grammy Awards.................36.00 Source CD-ROM.................20.00
Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00 Space Adventure...............33.00
Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00 Space Quest IV................24.00
Great Wonders of the World....43.00 Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00 Sporting News.................26.00
Guinness Disc of Records --- TBBS v2.1/NM
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Hacker Chronicles.............26.00 Straight from Heaven (New!)...25.50
Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00 Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
Hamware 1993..................24.00 Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
Hobbes OS/2...................16.00 STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00 STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...45.00
House of Games................21.00 STW MPC Encyclopedia..........47.50
Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00 Super CD 1....................19.00
Interactive Story Time 1......25.00 Super Games For DOS (New!)....10.00
Interactive Story Time 2......25.00 Super Games For Windows.......10.00
Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50 Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50 Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00 Technotools...................13.00
Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00 Tempra Access Photo Software..24.00
Jets & Props..................28.50 Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00 Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50 Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
Just Grandma & Me.............42.00 Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
KGB World Fact Book...........33.00 Timetable of History/Science..26.00
King's Quest V................24.00 Too Many Typefonts............13.00
King's Quest VI (New!)........44.00 Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
Klotski.......................19.00 Total Baseball................27.00
Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00 Trump Castle..................28.00
Lan Master (New!).............27.00 U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
Languages of the World........45.00 U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00 U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
Learning Heaven (New!)........25.50 U.S. History..................29.00
Library of the Future #1......49.00 U.S. Presidents...............37.00
Libris Britannia..............42.00 U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
Loom..........................19.00 U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00 VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00 VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00 Visions of Saturn.............23.00
Macromind Action..............39.00 Wild Places...................24.00
Magazine Rack.................24.50 Window Master.................20.00
Majestic Places...............38.50 Windoware.....................13.00
Manhole.......................35.50 Windows 1993..................25.00
Mantis........................24.00 Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00 Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50 World Atlas MPC...............26.50
Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00 World of Flight...............34.00
Mega Clipart..................27.00 World of Trains...............34.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..47.00 World Traveler................13.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..58.00 World View....................24.00
Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00 World Vision 3-Pak............43.00
Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00 Wrath of the Demon............29.00
Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00 X11R5/GNU.....................24.00
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457---- TBBS v2.1/NM
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>>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE! NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
>>> 95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING! <<<
1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00 Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
20th Century Video Almanac....32.00 Middle East Diary.............35.00
5-Star Premium Windows........27.00 MIDI Music Shop...............26.50
7th Guest.....................39.00 Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
9-Digit Zip Code Guide (New!).32.00 Monarch Notes.................57.00
9000 Sounds (New!)............25.00 Money, Money, Money!..........28.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish...25.00 Monster Media 93 vol 1........29.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00 Monster Media 93 vol 2 (New!).33.00
American Business Phonebk 91..17.00 Mother Earth 2................28.00
American Business Phonebk 92..19.00 Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
American Business Phonebk 93..25.00 MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00 Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00 National Geographic Mammals...25.00
Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50 National Parks................24.50
Arizona Images (New!).........25.00 Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00 Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
Audubon's Birds...............23.00 Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
Audubon's Mammals.............23.00 Night Owl 8.0.................24.00
Battle Chess..................25.00 Night Owl 9.0.................25.00
Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00 Night Owl 10.0 (In Stock!)....29.00
Beauty and the Beast..........32.50 Night Owl 9/10 2-Pak..........49.00
Beyond the Wall of Stars......24.50 Night Owl Business............24.00
Bible Library.................28.50 Night Owl Games (New!)........29.00
Bibles & Religion.............13.00 Night Owl Graphics (New!).....29.00
Britannica Family Choice......33.50 North American Fax Book.......36.00
Britannica Select Software....33.50 Officer's Bookcase............38.00
Business Assistant (New!).....13.00 Original Shareware............10.00
Business Master...............20.00 OS/2Box (Pre-orders)..........29.00
C User's Group Library........31.00 Our Solar System..............13.00
California Collection.........17.00 PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....27.00
Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00 PC-SIG 12.....................24.00
Career Opportunities..........29.00 PC-SIG 13 (Pre-orders)........33.00
Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50 PC Gameroom...................27.00
CD Powerbox 1.01..............15.00 PC Karaoke w/ Microphone......68.00
CD Winbox 1.01................25.00 Pentomino.....................32.00
Chessmaster 3000..............27.00 Peter and the Wolf............27.00
CIA World Fact Book...........23.00 Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).10.00
CICA Windows Shareware........16.00 Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............19.00
Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00 Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
Clipart Galore................28.00 Pier 2........................24.00
Clipart Goliath...............13.00 Pier 3 (In Stock!)............39.00
Clipart Heaven................25.00 Pier 2/3 Pak..................59.00
Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00 Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
Colossal Cookbook.............13.00 Pixel Garden..................34.00
Complete Bookshop.............13.00 Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
Composer Quest................34.00 Plant Doctor..................37.00
Compton's Interactive Ency....95.00 PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00 Precision Mapping (New!)......75.00
Computer Reference Librar--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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>>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE! NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
>>> 95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING! <<<
Consumer Information Disc.....37.50 Project Gutenberg (New!)......22.00
Cookbook Heaven...............23.00 ProPhone 1993 7-Pak.......... 99.00
Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00 ProPhone 1993 Business........29.00
Dagger of Amon Ra.............36.00 Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00 Publish-It 2.0................29.00
Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00 Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
Day of the Tentacle (New!)....44.50 Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00 Publisher's Powerhouse (New!).33.00
Desert Storm..................36.00 Q&A 4.0.......................35.00
Desktop Bookshop..............27.50 QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
Dictionaries & Language.......13.00 Reader's Library..............28.50
Dictionary of Living World....38.50 Reel Clips (New!).............35.00
Dinosaur Adventure............33.00 Reference Library.............27.50
Dinosaurs!....................34.00 Roger Ebert Movie Companion...39.00
Dr. Games (New!)..............20.00 Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
Dr. Music (New!)..............20.00 Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
Dr. Shareware (New!)..........20.00 Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
Dr. Windows (New!)............20.00 Shakespeare...................17.50
DTPro.........................28.50 Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......54.00
Education Master..............20.00 Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..42.00
Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00 Shareware Online 1............25.00
Electronic Home Library.......29.00 Shareware Online 2 (New!).....29.00
Empire Clipart................19.50 Shareware Overload............13.00
Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00 Shareware Studio 1............19.00
Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00 Shareware Studio 2............23.00
European Monarchs.............35.00 Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....25.00
Family Doctor.................26.00 Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......26.50 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
Firearms Reference (New!).....30.00 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
Font Master 1.................19.00 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
Font Master 2.................28.00 Sights & Sounds...............25.00
Food Analyst..................36.50 Simtel 20.....................16.00
Fresh Arte....................36.00 So Much Screenware............28.00
Game Arena (New!).............13.00 So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
Game Master...................20.00 So Much Shareware 2...........25.00
Game Pack 2...................27.00 So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
Games 1993....................25.00 Software Vault 1..............22.00
Gameware Collection...........24.00 Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50 Software Vault Gold (New!)....25.00
Gardening (New!)..............13.00 Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
GIF's Galore (G-Rated)........16.50 Sound Sensations..............13.00
Giga Games (New!).............25.00 Sound Works...................19.00
Global Explorer...............93.00 Soundware Collection..........27.00
Golden Immortal...............25.00 SoundWAV......................25.00
Grammy Awards.................36.00 Source CD-ROM.................20.00
Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00 Space Adventure...............33.00
Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00 Space Quest IV................24.00
Great Wonders of the World....43.00 Spirit of Excalibur...........29.50
Guinness Disc of Records --- TBBS v2.1/NM
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>>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE! NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
>>> 95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING! <<<
Hacker Chronicles.............26.00 Straight from Heaven (New!)...25.50
Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00 Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
Hamware 1993..................24.00 Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
Hobbes OS/2...................16.00 STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00 STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
House of Games................21.00 STW MPC Encyclopedia..........45.50
Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00 Super CD 1....................19.00
Interactive Story Time 1......25.00 Super Games For DOS (New!)....10.00
Interactive Story Time 2......25.00 Super Games For Windows.......10.00
Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50 Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50 Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00 Technotools...................13.00
Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00 Tempra Access Photo Software..24.00
Jets & Props..................28.50 Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00 Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50 Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
Just Grandma & Me.............39.00 Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
KGB World Fact Book...........33.00 Timetable of History/Science..26.00
King's Quest V................24.00 Too Many Typefonts............13.00
King's Quest VI (New!)........44.00 Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
Klotski.......................19.00 Total Baseball................27.00
Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00 Trump Castle..................28.00
La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...29.00 U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
Lan Master (New!).............27.00 U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
Languages of the World........45.00 U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00 U.S. History..................29.00
Learning Heaven (New!)........25.50 U.S. Presidents...............37.00
Library of the Future #1......49.00 U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
Libris Britannia..............42.00 U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
Loom..........................19.00 USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00 VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00 VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00 Visions of Saturn.............23.00
Macromind Action..............39.00 Wild Places...................24.00
Mad Dog McCree (New!).........49.00 Wildcat Gold..................27.50
Magazine Rack.................24.50 Window Master.................20.00
Majestic Places...............38.50 Windoware.....................13.00
Manhole.......................34.50 Windows 1993..................25.00
Mantis........................24.00 Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00 Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50 World Atlas MPC...............26.50
Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00 World of Flight...............34.00
Mega Clipart..................27.00 World of Trains...............34.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..47.00 World Traveler................13.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..58.00 World View....................24.00
Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00 World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00 Wrath of the Demon............29.00
Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00 X11R5/GNU.....................24.00
600mb SHAREWARE CD or--- TBBS v2.1/NM
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6427
To: ALL Date: 10/15/93 8:56p
Subj: PIER 3 NOW SHIPPING Refer: NONE
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| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
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| Title: PIER 3 | | Price: $39 |
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>>> IT'S HERE! <<<
The wait is over! Night Owl's closest rival in the shareware CD
industry has just released their latest disc: The Pier Shareware 3.
Since the release of Pier 1 and 2, there has been a growing
consensus in the CD-ROM industry that Pier CD's simply have no
equal when it comes to recent files, accurate BBS listings, and
great user interfaces. To put it simply folks, if you are looking
for the absolute BEST shareware CD for your personal or BBS use,
Pier 3 is the CD you need. You will not find a better organized,
more current shareware CD on the world market, at ANY PRICE!
* 628mb total
* Separate <ASP> directory.
* 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. (Smart Date Checking utilized)
* Completely re-written Graphic User Interface for EZ file management,
which is 300% faster than previous versions!
* All files have been scanned for viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN.
* GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!, Remote Access FILES.BBS Support.
* Less then 1% duplication compared to The Pier Shareware 1 & 2.
* Most current files on the market. Over 70% dated AFTER 6/93!
- DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE -
File stats for Pier 3:
92 File % Apx 'K' % 93 File % Apx 'K' %
== ==== ===== ======== ===== == ==== ===== ======== =====
1 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 1 5 0.1% 1,708 0.3%
2 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 2 6 0.1% 1,066 0.2%
3 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 3 47 1.0% 5,508 0.9%
4 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 4 501 11.0% 70,354 11.2%
5 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 5 693 15.2% 94,210 15.0%
6 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 6 1,244 27.4% 164,183 26.1%
7 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 7 1,054 23.2% 156,138 24.8%
8 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 8 572 12.6% 79,892 12.7%
9 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 9 421 9.3% 55,188 8.8%
10 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 10 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
11 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 11 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
12 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 12 0 0.0% 0 0.0%
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0 0.0% 0 0.0% 4,543 99.9% 628,247 99.8%
==== ===== ======== ===== ==== ===== ======== =====
That's right - 72% dated newer than 6/93, and 98.4% dated newer than 4/93!
2-CD SET: Pier 2 and 3...................(less than 1% dupes!)....$59
3-CD SET: Pier 1, 2, and 3...............(less than 1% dupes!)....$75
>>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
>>> DEALER PRICING AVAILABLE! <<<
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 6428
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 8:49p
Subj: cd-rom drive for sale! Refer: NONE
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I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom dirve for sale for $165 or best offer. It
has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the software,
manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came with the drive.
Everything in brand new condition! please call (410) 442-2726 if you are
interested. It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
ONLY $165 or best offer!
--- Maximus/2 2.01wb
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From: ANDREW MURPHY Number: 6429
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/19/93 10:01a
Subj: cd list 1 of 5 Refer: NONE
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-> Fred Fish On-Line 1.5...700+ 360k discs of Amiga shareware...**..49.9
For what it's worth, the amiga never had 360k disks. They are 880k
each. Commodore didn't go with 5.25 disks or 640k memory limitations.
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 6430
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/18/93 8:12p
Subj: TELEPHONE DIRECTORY Refer: NONE
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DC> We have the latest Mid-Year Prophone for $95. It contains 6
DC> residential and 1 business disc for names and numbers all over the US.
DC> Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order.
Do you know of a U.S. directory set whose files are it .DBF format
so I could mount it on a TBBS bulletin board and allow access via
a homegrown xBase door?
Also, does "Mid-Year" imply that directory listings are current as
of that time, or is it just date of publication for the disks?
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 6431
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 10/18/93 10:48a
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
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PR> Did you get those from a guy in Hawaii? If not there is a
PR> guy there selling four. I have seen a lot of them lately on
PR> the echo, all I do is just keep up with who is selling what.
PR> If I hear any thing will let you know.
No, I have seen them in GA and FL. I bought my four from GA. I really need
four more, so your help is much appreciated.
--- FMail 0.96Γ
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From: ROBERT MOORE Number: 6432
To: LEE NOGA Date: 10/18/93 12:11p
Subj: Hot Pix Refer: NONE
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* In a message originally to Lee Noga, Vikki Clayton said:
VC> > Beastiality, skat(defecation), puke shots, water sports
VC> > etc--It represents a total disregard for federal law--No
VC> > just samplings of the hardcore disciplines, but directories
VC> > of these type of things.
Are you referring to Ecstasy Hot Pic's Vol. I? The one originated and owned
by NixPix Windy City Adult Club? Better yet is there somewhere a guideline
that could be used to accept/reject adult material when one is considering
placing material on a BBS for distribution? Thanks in advance for your help.
--- FMail 0.96Γ
* Origin: BestDealBBS, Va. Beach, Va. USA 804/340-4457,-3498,-1250 (1:275/47)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6433
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: A PUBLIC APPEAL Refer: NONE
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BF>Policy specifically points out that NON-ROUTED Net Mail for commercial
purpos
BF>is fine, and cited at least one example where that was given as the cure for
BF>"bombing problem".
Yes, but I never mentioned "non-routed" netmail in my message. As stated,
I was referring to "routed" netmail only.
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6434
To: SERGIO MASCARENHAS Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: My Order Refer: NONE
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SM>MS>I did indeed, Sergio! Thanks very much, but I didn't find you in my
SM> >customer database! Looked high and low for all my customers in Brazil
SM> >and couldn't come up with anything. Please either fax or mail me your
SM> >shipping address and card number so I can process the order for you.
SM>Ok! No problem! I'll send a fax to you.
SM>What's your netmail address? I sent a order to you in 1:3407/101
SM>(crashmail) about 3 weeks ago.
I did finally receive your message Sergio, and thanks for the order.
OS/2Box should begin shipping around Oct. 25th, so look for your order
soon afterwards.
Thanks again,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6435
To: MARK ELSON Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: CDs Refer: NONE
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ME>Have a couple of questions for you.....
ME>when will the OS/2 Box CD be out??
We should begin shipping around Oct. 25th.
ME>and is the Mac Shareware disk BBS ready???
No....meant for Apple system drives only.
ME>is the new Busty Babes out yet??
Just started shipping from what I understand. Ours are en route and
should be here soon! Price is $29.
ME>what kind of deal can I get if I buy all 3 of the above...
How about $25 each in a package deal? Give a shout if interested....
Later,
.\\ike
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VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6436
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: CD DUPE CHART II Refer: NONE
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SHAREWARE CD DUPE CHART II from Starvector Software
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Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.3
(Available on Pier 3, or from the Starvector BBS at 509-457-0206)
SVG = SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD SV2 = SOFTWARE VAULT 2 PR2 = PIER 2
SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 SS3 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 PR3 = PIER 3
SO2 = SHAREWARE ONLINE 2 N09 = NIGHT OWL 9 N10 = NIGHT OWL 10
% OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
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>> Note: Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD. <<
PR2 PR3 N09 N10 SS2 SS3 SO2 SV2 SVG
+-----------------------------------------------------+
PR2| .00% .55% 19.7% 1.72% .02% 7.30% 20.5% 16.5% 4.59%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
PR3| .55% .00% 10.2% 36.0% .00% 8.14% 8.94% 2.20% 24.9%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
NO9|19.7% 10.2% .12% .08% 1.24% .10% 36.8% 19.5% 25.8%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
N10|1.72% 36.0% .08% .00% .31% .00% 2.38% 1.31% 20.8%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SS2| .02% .00% 1.24% .31% .01% .12% .00% 1.58% 2.29%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SS3|7.30% 8.14% .10% .00% .12% .02% 13.4% .00% 10.2%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SO2|20.5% 8.94% 36.8% 2.38% .00% 13.4% .30% 25.4% 13.9%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SV2|16.5% 2.20% 19.5% 1.31% 1.58% .00% 25.4% .01% 1.69%|
|-----------------------------------------------------|
SVG|4.59% 24.9% 25.8% 20.8% 2.29% 10.2% 13.9% 1.69% .00%|
+-----------------------------------------------------+
PRICES
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PIER 2..............24.00 PIER 3..............39.00
NIGHT OWL 9.........25.00 NIGHT OWL 10........29.00
SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..23.00 SHAREWARE STUDIO 3..25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT 2....24.00 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD.25.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE 2..29.00
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6437
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: STREET ATLAS 2.0: $95 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
____________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
|____________________________________________________|
_______________________________ _________________
| | | |
| Title: STREET ATLAS v 2.0 | | Price: $95 |
|_______________________________| |_________________|
The best-selling computer mapping package has just been updated!
You probably know about the proven quality of Street Atlas by now,
but let's face it - version 1 is two years old! In that time, lots
of changes have taken place, and you need version 2 for the absolute
highest level of mapping accuracy!
Street Atlas version 2 is a complete street map of the entire
country on a single CD-ROM! You can zoom in on every city, town, or
rural area in the country - right down to the smallest backroads.
The database gives you instant access to more than 12 million street
segments and more than 1 million lakes, ponds, rivers, parks, rail-
roads, and more!
* Search by ZIPcode, place name, or phone number.
* Print maps at a variety of different scales, instantly!
* Zoom in and out with ease.
* Search block ranges in metropolitan areas.
* Customize the overview map.
* Seamless, full-color maps are easy to read.
* New, faster map generation system produces maps extremely fast!
* Thousand of new streets that didn't exist two years ago.
* Trip planning functions.
* Customizable user interface.
Requirements: 386 CPU or higher, 2MB RAM, 3MB hard drive space,
CD-ROM drive, VGA graphics, mouse, Windows 3.1,
DOS 4.01+
>>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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* SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6438
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 12:51a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
________________________________________________________
| |
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #4: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! |
|________________________________________________________|
All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!
Mega Clipart........$24 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 Wrath of the Demon..$27
World Vision 3-Pak..$39 Roger Ebert Movies..$37 Bookshelf 1992......$39
Mac Shareware.......$20 Spirit of Excalibur.$27 Mac M/M Space.......$35
Sporting News.......$22 Conan the Cimmerian.$27 Game Pack 2.........$22
Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 4.0.........$18 Jedi Collection.....$39
So Much Shareware...$19 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$29
Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Top 2000 Shareware..$18 Software Vault 1....$17 Super Programmer....$12
California Collct'n.$15 Hobbes OS/2 1992....$13 Sights & Sounds.....$21
K-Tracks Sound F/X..$17 Sounds for Windows..$15 Canadian Shareware..$19
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
COMPUSERVE...........72632,2050
CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: BRYAN NYLIN Number: 6439
To: MARK CLARDY Date: 10/18/93 9:31p
Subj: Business Cd's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a recent CD release that contains address and phone
numbers of businesses, by zip code. If any of the CD's you carry has
this, please mail your catalog to:
Bryan Nylin
1312 S. 263rd St.
Kent, WA 98032
Thanks!
* SLMR 2.1a * Death is a nonmaskable interrupt.
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From: GEOFF REED Number: 6440
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/17/93 8:52p
Subj: A Public Appeal Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** On 10-14-93, Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Mike Shannon: *****>>
BF>It's not part of Policy, but rather appears to be the efforts of a few
BF>*Cs
BF>only.
BF> On the other hand, it's not specifically addressed by Policy at all....
BF>
BF>>I don't know the status of other dealers in this conference
BF>
BF>I'm the Sysop of Star Fleet Battles (see Origin line).
BF>
unless they've changed the policy, there's no policy AGAINST conducting
commercial business in ECHOMAIL. the problem here I see, is that there are
people confusing the terms Netmail and Echomail, there is a big difference.
Netmail is actual mail messages, and is a Faux-Pas to send routed netmail on
someone else's dime, while Echomail is the actual Fido "Echoes" like
tech_help, CDROM, etc. now, if they've changed policy since the last time I
read the Fidonet policy document, please let me know. but what it sounds
like to me is sour grapes on someone's part...
BF>>but for the sake of the
BF>>conference and the echo, let's lay off the Netmail, at least for the
BF>purposes
BF>>of conducting business.
BF>
BF>Policy specifically points out that NON-ROUTED Net Mail for commercial
BF>purposes
BF>is fine, and cited at least one example where that was given as the cure
BF>for a
BF>"bombing problem".
BF>
BBF>
BF>Given that at least one of the Backbone sites is a commercial entity, I
BF>doubt
BF>that this will happen. It IS a good idea to keep the *C structure "calm
BF>and
BF>collected" as much as possible, though....
~~~
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From: GEOFF REED Number: 6441
To: BOB CENTERBAR Date: 10/17/93 9:00p
Subj: Adult Cds Wanted For Bbs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
<<***** On 10-15-93, Bob Centerbar wrote to Joe Reynolds: *****>>
BC> On 10-10-93 JOE REYNOLDS wrote to ALL...
BC>
BC> JR> I am interested in purchasing some adult cds to run with my BBS.
BC>Does
BC> JR> anyone know of any titles and where I can get them.
BC> JR>
BC>I have a used copy of Giffy Gold that I'll sell for $30.00 obo. This
BC>CD is BBS approved, for the lack of a better word, as all scans are
BC>original Giffy Enterprises scans of amateur models. The best way I
BC>can describe the scan is there in the "girl next door" type format.
BC>
BC>If your interest reply here or netmail.
BC>
BC>Later...Bob
BC>
BC>
BC>... OFFLINE 1.50 "I can't be wrong; my modem is error-correcting."
BC>* LAKOTA v1.1
BC>
BC>--- SFScan v2.00
BC> * Origin: Bob's Mess (817) 699-7655 (1:395/33.0)
BC>
BC>
BC>
Bob, if he's not interested in that CD, I am :) i'm planning to put my
CD-Rom drive onto my bbs soon. I can be reached at (206) 661-3662 if I'm
not here, leave a message on the machine and I'll call ya back ASAP :)
~~~
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From: PHILLIP DAMPIER Number: 6442
To: RON DWIGHT Date: 10/19/93 9:45a
Subj: ron dwight Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> An outright LIE! You have settled NOTHING. What
> you have done is offer a list of half-baked excuses as to
> why YOU fouled up and why I had to pay unexpected
> additional costs. This is NOT settlement.
Etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum.
> I am not a gentleman, I am the single most
> important person you will EVER meet in your entire life.
A lot of Germans probably agree with you, but for all the wrong reasons.
Take it to netmail and spare us.
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From: SCOTT BRIGADE Number: 6443
To: LEWIS BULLARD Date: 10/19/93 3:30p
Subj: SALE OR TRADE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Magnavox CDD 461 CDrom. Light use, external, plays audio cds without
>software, slow but good for bbs. Will include 5 cd's of shareware $250
Im interested but need more information. I dont know any of the specs,
please go into more detail, and also please list the names and dates of
the shareware cd's....
Scott
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 6444
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/19/93 8:01p
Subj: CD LIST 1 OF 5 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
─ Area: CDROM_SALE ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
Msg#: 13335 Date: 10-17-93 23:11
From: Doug Carpenter Read: Yes Replied: No
To: All Mark:
Subj: CD LIST 1 OF 5
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
@MSGID: 1:362/119.0 2cc20966 AB20 Amiga CD-Rom...300+mb, 3000+ Amiga shareware
files..........10.00 America's Premier 1993
Shareware...Win,Games,fonts,clipart,gifs..16.95 Aminet Amiga...Near 600 meg
from Aminet Interet Archives.....**..14.50 AMSoft (Ham)...Thousands of ham
shareware/ham related programs...26.95 A.S.P...Best of ASP Association Authors
Shareware................21.95 Big Sky...Hundreds of shareware programs,fast
bbs install....**..26.00 C Users Group Library...User supported source
code-dos,unix,cpm..27.95 CD Powerbox...6,858 files-50 categories-all '91-'92
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Doug, above is what your postings look like on my BlueWave reader.
Strangely enough, when I bring my my editor (SPFPC) everything
straightens out and lines up readably.
Considering the number of BLueWave people out there and the possibility
they might be seeing the same glurge, maybe you want to check up on
your message's structure...dunno enough myself to make an intelligent
guess as to the problem.
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 6445
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 6:42p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
NIGHT OWL 10
39.00
650+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files
******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
October 15, 1993
SUPER CD 1................ 22.00 SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00 SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00 NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95 SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50 SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50 TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50 CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00 CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00 DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00 DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
Americas Premire.......... 18.75 Gigabyte Gold............ 36.50
Phoenix Version 3.0....... 19.50 Shareware Avalnche....... 39.00
Sharware Galore........... 37.50 Sharware Overloard....... 37.50
Shareware Tiger........... 39.00 World Vision............. 79.00
Window Master............. 39.00 Software Vault GOLD...... 35.00
************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles
ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00 BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00 PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00 HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
Beach Babes............... 39.00 Animation Fantasies 1.... 39.00
Animation Fantasies 2..... 39.00 Gay/Bi/Lesbians.......... 39.00
Giffy Girls Gold.......... 39.00 Hot Pix 4................ 39.00
Hot Pix 5................. 39.00 My Private Collection 1.. 29.00
My Private Collection 2... 39.00 PC PIX 1................. 39.00
PC PIX 2.................. 39.00 PC PIX 3................. 39.00
Porkware 1................ 39.00 Private Pictures......... 36.00
Stareware................. 34.00 Storm 1 ................. 28.00
Storm 2................... 39.00 Storm 3.................. 41.00
Wicked.................... 69.00
************************ CLIPART **********************************
Clip Art Galore........... 25.00 Clip Art Goliath......... 25.00
Corel ArtShow............. 79.00 Font Fun House........... 39.00
Lovely Ladies 2........... 39.00 Media Clips Business..... 29.00
Media Clips Island........ 29.00 Media Clips Jets......... 29.00
Media Clips Majestic...... 29.00 Media Clisp Money........ 29.00
Media Clips Wild.......... 29.00 Media Clips World........ 29.00
Mediasource.............. 289.00 Mediasource 2........... 289.00
Mediasource Historical... 289.00 Mother Earth 2........... 29.00
Quick Artline............ 219.00 SoMuch Screenware........ 35.00
Electronic Library of Art 69.50
*********************** BUSINESS & REFERENCE **********************
Atlas of US Presidents.... 29.00 Atlas Pack............... 89.00
Berlitz Think & Talk......149.00 Bibles & Religion........ 24.50
CD-ROM Dierctory......... 109.00 Cinimania............... 295.00
Colosal Cookbook.......... 24.00 Complete Bookshop........ 24.00
Comptons Encylopedia..... 159.00 Corel Draw 4.0.......... 489.00
Dictionaires & Languages.. 24.50 Food Analyst............. 49.50
Food Anylst Plus......... 149.00 Ham Radio v3.0.......... 149.00
Information USA.......... 119.00 KGB-CIA World Fact Book.. 39.00
Corel Draw 3.0........... 149.00 Monarch Notes............ 79.00
MS Office for Windows.... 589.00 Multimedia Audobons Birds 39.00
Multimedias Audons mamals 29.00 Multimedia World Fact book39.50
Murmurs of Earth.......... 49.00 Our Solar System......... 24.00
ProPhone 1993 7 cd set... 179.00 Publish It............... 69.00
Sound Sensations.......... 24.50 Space Adventure.......... 36.00
Mamals National Geograpic. 39.00 Techno Tools............. 24.50
The Bible Library......... 24.50 The Books list........... 49.50
The Family Doctor......... 39.00 Too many Type Fonts...... 24.50
Total Baseball............ 59.00 US Atlas with Automap.... 39.00
Encarta.................. 295.00 World Atlus CD-ROM....... 29.00
World Vista............... 63.00 Elecrtonic Home Library.. 59.00
Time Table of History..... 38.00 Toolworks Reference Library31.90
Mavis Beacon Teaches typing v2.0 39.00
Sports Illistraded Almanac 49.00
Street Atlus USA WINDOWS 92.50
Multimedia Animals Encyclopedia 56.90
Library of the Future 2nd Edition 159.00
1992 Time Magazine Compact Almanac 69.00
The Electronic Library ofArt 89.00
Groiler New Multimedia Encyclopedia 295.00
Dinasours & Multimedia Encyclopedia 89.00
Vital Signs The good health resource 83.00
Comptons Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows 299.00
************* GAMES, ROLE PLAYING **********
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 6446
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 6:42p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Continued from previous message)
Arthurs Teacher trouble 34.90 Bakers Dozen Game Pak for Windows 29.00
barney Bear Goes to Space 39.00 Battle Chess Enhanced 40.00
Conan 31.00 Deathstar Arcade Batlles 24.50 Future Wars 54.50 Guy Spy 39.00
Jones in the Fast Lane 29.00 Just Grandma and me 44.00 Kings Quest 5 39.00
Kings Quest 6 39.00 LOOM 29.00 Mixed Up Mother Goose 29.95
Murder Makes Strange Dead Fellows 45.00 Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe 29.00
Space Quest 4 29.95 Spaceship Warlock 79.95 Spirit Of Excaliber 79.00
Stellar 7 29.00
7th Gyest 59.00 The Advuentures of Willly Beamish 52.50 Chessmater 3000 29.00
Lost Treasures of Infocom 59.50 Lsot tresures of Infocom 2 44.95
The manhole 44.97 The Secret Of Momkey island 35.90 Ultima I-VI series 49,95
Where in the world is Carmen San Diego 29.00 Wing Commander plus Secret
Missions 1& 2 69.95 Wing Commander 2 69.00 Wrath of the Demon 37.50
-------------------- end of list ---------------------------
*All in stock and ready to ship.
* Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each additional.
* CA Residents add 7.75% Sales Tax
* SEND check/money order in US funds payable to:
ADRIAN SALAS
2434 EAST 32ND STREET,
NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
QUESTIONS/ORDERS 619-479-8688 10:AM to 7:PM PST.
Attn: SDRC
Sorry NO Credit Cards (Yet).
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From: ROBERT KUMMER Number: 6447
To: EVERYONE Date: 10/18/93 3:15p
Subj: CD's to Sell or Trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the following CD's I would like to sell or trade for other
CD's.
Creation date
Title (from chkcd util)
Shareware Explosion II - 11-06-92 None older than 11-1-92 $15
N.O. Daytime Express - 11-08-92 Good general shareware $15
N.O. Business CD - 10-22-92 Business type shareware $15
America's Premier - 09-19-92 Good general shareware $15
Black Box 4 - 08-18-92 Nice CD (from Europe) $15
Phoenix 3 - 02-27-93 Good general shareware $15
Wiz-Pak 6-Pak CD - 08-18-92 170 programs ready to use $10
MegaDemo - 10-19-92 w/CD drive benchmark utils $10
ADULT TITLES
Seedy Rom 2,3,4,5,6 $20 ea.
Seventh Heaven $25
Storm III $20
After Dark Best offer
XXX Extreme Best offer
Also have a Unisys AP1307 wide carriage daisy wheel printer. Best offer
Things I'm interested in:
1x9 70ns Simms
Software Vault I
Software Vault Gold
Color Magic Clipart
Hackers Chronicle
Other CD's
Please reply here with offers. To speed things up, leave phone # so I
can contact you if I'm interested, or I can be reached at (517)631-5105
9am - 8pm EST. Thanks.
Robert.
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From: CLINT SAVAGE Number: 6448
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 7:52a
Subj: HELP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can someone who has DR. MUSIC and 9000 SOUNDS please check and see how many
.MID and .WRK files are on these CD-ROM's Thanks
--- TMail v1.31.5
* Origin: 24th Street Exchange - A BBS Since 1983 * (916) 448-2483 (1:203/52)
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From: GREG STERLING Number: 6449
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 12:24a
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
INTERESTED IN BUYING CD - BUSTY BABES 1. IF YOU HAVE ACOPY YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SELL LET ME KNOW. HOW MUCH?
--- Ezycom V1.02 06fa0004
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From: ERIC BRAVICK Number: 6450
To: ALL USERS Date: 10/19/93 10:41p
Subj: CDRoms for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
New CDRoms for sale:
Aminet June 1993 $13.00 Almost 600 megs of Amiga stuff,
Thousands of GNU apps, C code,
sound files, games...
CICA Windows Aug. 1993 $13.00 640+ Megs of Windows stuff, utils
games, drivers, icons, info, and
tons of other stuff.
Garbo May 1992 $13.00 375+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC from the
Garbo Archive at the University
of Vassa, Finland. Interesting.
GIFs Galore 1st ed. $13.00 610+ Megs of .gif files. Animals,
people, fantasy, tv, movies, more.
320x280 to 1024x768
Giga Games Aug. 1993 $18.00 450+ Megs zipped, 1 GIG unzipped!
Games for MSDOS/Windows. Graphics
Arcade games! Adventure games!
1000+ D&D files! Much more.
Hobbes OS/2 June 1993 $13.00 640+ Megs of OS/2, bunches of
must have utils for OS/2 2.x,tons
of other stuff for 1.x to 2.x.
Info-Mac $25.00 10,000 programs for the MAC,
desktop accessories, games,
graphics, sound, tech stuff.
La Coleccion Agosto 1993 $20.00 Mas de 6.500 archivos shareware
y de dominio publico clasificados
en 55 secciones con descripciones
en espanol. Listo para utilizar
en BBS. DOS/Windows/OS/2. 475 Megs.
Libris Britanica Issue 2 $31.00 650 Megs of Shareware from
England! This import has tons
of MSDOS stuff you probabley
have not seen... (With 124 pg.
listing of files and descriptions)
Project Gutenberg July 1993 $18.00 Tons of classic lit/history from
the Project Gutenburg archive, all
low ASCII text, ISO-9660, readable
on almost anything!
ShareWare Heaven 1993 $20.00 400+ Megs of MSDOS/Win, good
general CD, samples wide range
of programs/utils, hits the
highlights.
Simtel MSDOS May 1993 $13.00 630+ Megs MSDOS, over 9000
programs, drivers, tech info,
graphics & sound stuff.
Source March 1992 $20.00 600 Megs of C code for just
about every application: from
AI to usenet.
Soundwave $24.00 450 Megs of unique sounds, pro
recordings at 16 bits. Sounds
as good as audio CDs. 200 Megs
of sound files at 8 bits.
Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008
(813) 985-9619 (Voice)
(813) 985-9723 (BBS)
FIDO Netmail 1:377/53.0
Internet: bravick@luna.cas.usf.edu
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From: BOB BOSS Number: 6451
To: MICHAEL APPELBAUM Date: 10/19/93 9:16a
Subj: CD Multidisk Changer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Re: CD Multidisk Changer
> Anyone have any prices on Multidisk Changers?
Pioneer:
DMR-600 (bare) should go for between $770 and $820.
DMR-600X (bare QUADSpeed) can be had for between $1160 and $1300.
1522 controller goes for around $70-$75....
Later then?
Bob
= K'tithrak Mang BBS = 609.453.0541 = 609.451.7178 = VBBS/2 ß =
= VBBS and OS/2 File Support = VNet AC @1609008 = FIDOnet 1:266/75 =
= USR 16.8 HST/DS = 24hrs. = [ASV] = [GUEST] = MailServer @1609007 =
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6452
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 5:42a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG 10/19/93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6453
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 6:02a
Subj: CD-ROM SPECIALS 10/19/93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
X#&]%%+fN ! )19AI
THIS MONTH SPECIAL $2.00 OFF ANY CD PRICE !!!!!!
NO LIMIT -- MIX OR MATCH -- ORDER 10 OR MORE AND GET FREE
SHIPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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1001 UTILITIES...........................10.00
ABOUT COWS...............................30.00
ADVENTURES IN HEAVEN.....................15.00
ADVENTURES OF WILLY BEAMISH..............20.00
AIRCRAFT ENCYCLOPEDIA,THE................30.00
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK.............25.00
ANECDOTES VOL.1..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.2..........................15.00
ANECDOTES VOL.3..........................15.00
ANIMALS..................................25.00
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE.................30.00
AUDUBON'S BIRDS..........................25.00
AUDUBON'S MAMMALS........................25.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL...............20.00
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SPACE................20.00
BATTLE CHESS.............................20.00
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.....................20.00
BIBLE LIBRARY............................30.00
BIBLES & RELIGION........................15.00
BUSINESS ASSISTANT.......................10.00
BUSINESS MASTER..........................20.00
C USERS GROUP LIBRARY....................30.00
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION....................10.00
CAMERON'S FINE ART CATALOG...............40.00
CAREER OPPORTUNIES.......................30.00
CHESSMASTER M/M..........................20.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK......................25.00
CIA WORLD FACT BOOK M/M..................30.00
CICA WINDOWS DISK........................20.00
CLIPART GOLIATH..........................15.00
CLIPART HEAVEN...........................15.00
COATES ART REVIEW : IMPRESSIONISM........30.00
COMPLETE BOOKSHOP........................15.00
COMPOSER QUEST...........................35.00
CONSUMER INFORMATION DISC................30.00
COOKBOOK HEAVEN..........................15.00
DANGER HOT STUFF.........................15.00
DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES.................15.00
DESKTOP BOOKSHOP.........................15.00
DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES.................15.00
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE.......................30.00
EDUCATION MASTER.........................20.00
ELECTRONIC COOKBOOK......................35.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC VER.1...................50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA MULTI-MEDIA VER.5...........50.00
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND....................15.00
EUROPEAN MONARCHS........................30.00
FAMILY DOCTOR............................25.00
FONT MASTER TWO..........................20.00
FONT MASTER..............................10.00
FONTS FOR THE PROFESSIONAL...............25.00
FRESH ARTE...............................30.00
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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GAME ARENA...............................10.00
GAME MASTER..............................20.00
GAME PACK II.............................30.00
GARBO MSDOS/MAC..........................20.00
GIFS GALORE..............................20.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 1....................30.00
GREAT CITIES VOLUME 2....................30.00
HAM RADIO................................15.00
HAMCALL..................................40.00
HOLY BIBLE,THE...........................20.00
HOSPITALITY INDEX........................30.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 1.................20.00
INTERACTIVE STORY TIME 2.................20.00
INTERNATIONAL BUSIN. & ECON. ATLAS.......20.00
J SCHUMACHER'S NEW PRAGUE COOKBOOK.......30.00
JETS & PROPS.............................30.00
JOKES & PRANKS...........................10.00
JONES IN THE FAST LANE...................20.00
KGB WORLD FACT BOOK......................30.00
KINGS QUEST V............................20.00
KLOTSKI..................................25.00
KODAK PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE...........20.00
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD...................40.00
LEARNING ADVENTURE.......................10.00
LEARNING HEAVEN..........................15.00
LIBRIS BRITANIA..........................40.00
LOOM.....................................20.00
MACMILLAN DICTIONARY FOR CHILDREN........30.00
MAGAZINE RACK............................30.00
MAVIS BACON TEACHES TYPING M/M...........25.00
MAYO CLINIC..............................25.00
MIDDLE EAST DIARY........................30.00
MIDI MUSIC SHOP..........................25.00
MIXED-UP MOTHER GOOSE....................20.00
MONKEY ISLAND............................30.00
MOTHER OF ALL CLIPART....................15.00
MPC WIZARD...............................20.00
MS DOS ARCHIVES (SIMTEL 20)..............20.00
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MAMMALS..............30.00
NATIONAL PARKS...........................25.00
NORTH AMERICAN FACIMILE (FAX) BOOK.......30.00
NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS...................30.00
OFFICER'S BOOKCASE.......................30.00
ORIGINAL SHAREWARE.......................10.00
OS/2 ARCHIVES............................20.00
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.........................15.00
PC-SIG VERSION 11........................20.00
PC-SIG VERSION 12........................25.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF GAMES....................15.00
PC-SIG HOME & BUSINESS COLLECTION........10.00
PC-SIG WORLD OF WINDOWS..................15.00
PENTAMINOES..............................28.00
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CD-ROM TITLE PRICE
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PETER AND THE WOLF.......................20.00
PHARMACIST GUIDE TO DRUGS................30.00
PIXEL GARDEN.............................30.00
PLANT DOCTOR.............................30.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--FRENCH...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--GERMAN...........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--ENGLISH..........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--JAPANESE.........35.00
PLAYING WITH LANGUAGES--SPANISH..........35.00
PROGRAMMER'S ROM.........................30.00
PROJECT GUTENBURG........................20.00
PUBLIQUE ARTE............................30.00
PUBLISH-IT...............................25.00
Q & A....................................50.00
QRZ HAM RADIO............................20.00
RBBS IN A BOX VERSION 3.1................30.00
REFERENCE LIBRARY........................20.00
ROGER EBERT MOVIE COMPANION..............30.00
SCOUNTING REPORT 92......................30.00
SEALS OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.............30.00
SECRET WEAPONS OF THE LUFTWAFFE..........30.00
SELECTWARE...............................10.00
SHAKESPEARE..............................20.00
SHAREWARE GOLD II VOL.2 #1...............30.00
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6454
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 6:02a
Subj: CD-ROM SPECIALS 10/19/93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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SHAREWARE HEAVEN.........................15.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE.........................25.00
SHAREWARE ONLINE VOL.#2..................25.00
SHERLOCK CONSULTING DETECTIVE............20.00
SHERLOCK HOLMES..........................20.00
SO MUCH SCREENWARE.......................30.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2......................15.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3......................25.00
SOFTWARE VAULT VOL.2.....................15.00
SOUND SENSATIONS.........................15.00
SOURCE CD-ROM............................20.00
SPACE ADVENTURE..........................30.00
SPACE QUEST IV...........................20.00
SPACE SERIES-APOLLO......................30.00
STELLER 7................................20.00
STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN.....................15.00
STREET ATLAS USA.........................95.00
TAO OF COW...............................30.00
TECHNOTOOLS..............................15.00
TEMPRA PHOTO CD ACCESS SOFTWARE..........20.00
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES.................30.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-SCIENCE............25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-BUS.& POLITICS.....25.00
TIME TABLE OF HISTORY-ARTS & ENTERTAIN...25.00
TOO MANY TYPEFONTS.......................12.00
U.S. ATLAS M/M...........................20.00
U.S. ATLAS WITH AUTOMAP..................25.00
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 6455
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 6:10a
Subj: FREE CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FREE CD-ROM CATALOG WITH LOW PRICES.
LEAVE MESSAGE OR WRITE TO:
STEVE GREENO
2508 AVENIDA REGULO
TUCSON AZ. 85710
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6456
To: MAX GREEN Date: 10/19/93 5:43p
Subj: cd's still available Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
These titles on cd are still available:
Where in San Diego is Carmen
manual, mouse, soundblaster, Ega/Vga
$20.00
Secret of Monkey Island
mouse ega/vga soundblaster and manual
$15.00
Loom
manual, mouse vga and manual
$15.00
Macromedia Action! 2.5 Se and Clipmedia 2 Se
Create your own multi-media presentations
Windows 3.X, mouse, Vga or better, sound blaster,
ntsc or pal for printing to video, at least 4 mb of ram
386 Sx or Dx, manual
$30.00
I can be reached at 674-3966 leave message.
Mike Harris
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From: MICHAEL HARRIS Number: 6457
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 5:43p
Subj: sent out today Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Max,
I sent the cd today 10/19 at around 12:00 noon or so, you should get the
package by Friday at the lastest. I sent as promised Priority Mail.
Mike Harris
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 6458
To: ALL Date: 10/18/93 4:48p
Subj: Busty Babes 1 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have Busty Babes 1, Will take Computer Items in trade or The First $125.00
.....|<evin
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 6459
To: DANIEL PARDUE Date: 10/19/93 5:18a
Subj: Re: I want to get some CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 17 Oct 93 13:02:00, I heard Daniel Pardue shout to All Sellers:
DP> I just got a CD-ROM drive and want to buy some software. Please send catalo
Call 1-800-638-5757, They can fix ya up with a catalog, and they are the
cheapest I have found...
........|<evin
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 6460
To: RICHARD WICKER Date: 10/19/93 2:06p
Subj: Re: Adult GIFs on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 15 Oct 93 12:59:29, I heard Richard Wicker shout to All:
RW> I am interested in collecting more adult Gifs on CD. I have Stareware. I
RW> know of the Storm collection. What are the other titles I should be looking
RW> for, and how do you rate them?
Southern Beauties is a Really good disk, and it's got VERY nice Scans, Not
some of this trashy looking stuff that they use to fill space with on some of
the disk, ALL of them are nice... I got mine from Free Spirit 1-800-638-5757
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 6461
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 3:31p
Subj: cd-rom good deal! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a high-quality mitsumi cd-rom drive for sale for $159 or best offer. It
has a 350ms access time and is less than a month old. I have all the software,
manuals, 16-bit card adaptor, and everything else that came with the drive.
Everything in brand new condition! please call (410) 442-2726 if you are
interested. It is multisession photo-cd compatible also!
ONLY $159 or best offer!
Or the drive and the shareware extravaganza cd-rom 4-disc set for only $179!
(shareware extravaganza 4-disc set is normally $50!) OR BEST OFFER!!
This is a very GOOD cd-rom drive, I just need the money, that is why I am
selling it and why it is only a month old.
ANY REASONABLE OFFER ACCEPTED! (410) 442-2726
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From: JOHN RICKER Number: 6462
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 10/19/93 4:23p
Subj: CDROM Systems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO|o| **************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
|o| Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
|o| NEC 74 280ms Ext Bare - $379.00 NEC 84 280ms Int Bare - $349.00 -SCSI
|o| Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
|o| Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $739.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1169. -SCSI
|o| Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
|o| Texel Int 3021 Bare Dr - $189.00 Texel Ext Complete Kit- $569.00 -SCSI
|o| Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $389.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $489.00 -SCSI
|o| Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
|o| Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $12.00ec
|o| ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris,
Would you happen to have any TOUCH - External CD-ROM drives, Model
Number GCDR-200 ? , is so how much are they ?
john ricker
* OLX 2.2 * Great Lie #4: The program is bug free.
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From: GENE EHRICH Number: 6463
To: JOHN RICKER Date: 10/14/93 8:30a
Subj: Buying Used CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR>GE|o| JR> |o| Busty Babes 1.3
JR>GE|o| JR>What would ya like for this one ?
JR>GE|o| $25
JR>Ok, let me get back with ya on this, and do ya know if it is BBS ready ?
Sorry but don't know what that means.
■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ 98% of all constipated people don't give a crap.
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From: GRAHAM KENDALL Number: 6464
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/18/93 9:45p
Subj: MACINTOSH TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I will ship you the Mac version of Just Grandma and Me for $35.
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From: JUD MITCHELL Number: 6465
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 11:21p
Subj: CD-ROM Wholesalers Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am in the process of setting up a CD-ROM retail business
and I am looking for wholesalers and manufacturers. Please
send me your Catalog and price list with quanity breaks to:
Jud Mitchell
4511 North Shore Drive
The Colony, Texas 75056
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From: MICHAEL KELLY Number: 6466
To: EDDIE PHILLIPS Date: 10/19/93 7:16p
Subj: Re: Misc items for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Eddie Phillips to All <=-
EP> Here's what I HAVE:
EP> - OS/2 2.0
EP> shrinkwrapped.............................................$40 - Alpha
I may be interested in this, can I come over a take a look at it?
... Do what you will with this tagline, just don't bother me about it!
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From: MICHAEL KELLY Number: 6467
To: ZACHARY HAMM Date: 10/19/93 7:16p
Subj: Re: WALNUT CREEK ADDRESS? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Zachary Hamm to All <=-
ZH>
ZH> Anybody got Walnut Creek's Address and Phone Number??
Walnut Creek CDROM
4041 Pike Lane, Suite D-359
Concord, CA 94520
1-800-786-9907
info@cdrom.com
1-510-674-0821 (fax)
... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS Number: 6468
To: MICHAEL KELLY Date: 10/19/93 11:38p
Subj: Re: Misc items for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151 N
@REQRR :Caller has requested a Return Receipt N
-> EP> - OS/2 2.0
-> shrinkwrapped.............................................$40
->
-> I may be interested in this, can I come over a take a look at it?
I'm more out than I am in....do you want to meet me somewhere ?? It's
in the shrinkwrap, so there's not a whole lot to look at except the box
as I'd like to keep it shrinkwrapped. Let me know when you'd like to
meet....my best time is during lunch or after 8pm.
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From: DAN PROCIV Number: 6469
To: BOB DAMATO Date: 10/19/93 12:15a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES FOR TRADE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have southern beauties... My advice is they should have called it southe
-> barnyards... I wouldnt make that one high on your list! I was really
-> dissappointed. I would like to buy the mystique of the orient as well....
-> anyone is listening.... :)
-> --- TMail v1.31.4
-> * Origin: Bruces Bar & Grill *IT'S THE REAL THING* 203.236.3761 (1:142/20
Bob,
I have Mystique of the Orient for $59. Call the CD-Machine anytime 24hours for
fast dependable service at (503)236-4969. Fax (503)236-4969 or place online
orders at BBS (503)236-3266.
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From: DAN PROCIV Number: 6470
To: CHRIS SNYDER Date: 10/19/93 12:21a
Subj: Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I'm looking for the best price on a cd rom, sound card combo.
-> 200ms seek time and at least 300kb per sec transfer.
-> 16 bit sound card.
-> --- FreeMail 1.07b
-> * Origin: The Outer-Limits (618) 439-9629 * HST/V32 * (1:2290/70)
Chris, I have the following bundles available here at the CD-Machine. Call us
anytime for quotes, questions or a catalog at (503)236-4969, Fax (503)236-4969
or BBS (503)236-3266/236-0269.
Toshiba XM-3401B. 200ms access, SCSI-2, Photo CD compatible, 330kb/sec
transfer, 256k buffer with a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound card. Sound may be
recorded and played back at 44.1 KHz, 16 bit stereo. Built in SCSI interface,
4Watt/channel stereo amplifier, 20 voice stereo synthesizer, and 3 year
warranty. Includes bundled software: MIDI sequencer, waveform editor, text to
speech synthesizer, 4 track music studio, and Windows drivers. Compatible with
Windows 3.1, MPC, Ad Lib, and Sound Blaster.
***$649.00 plus shipping and handling***
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 6471
To: ZACHARY HAMM Date: 10/19/93 4:30p
Subj: LOTUS 1-2-3 FOR $50 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Zachary,
Answering a msg of <17 Oct 93>, from Zachary Hamm to Ed Duchek:
It has a small book with it. I would venture to guess not the full book. i
also have it on 1.44's, which is the full package... same price.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: DAVE REED Number: 6472
To: TONY DAVIS Date: 10/19/93 6:51p
Subj: BBS Defense Fund Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tony!
Friday October 15 1993 09:33, Tony Davis wrote to All:
TD> The Tony Davis Electronic Defense Fund
You broke the law, so why don't you just accept your punishment, or move to a
jurisdiction that allows selling XXX material? It seems you wouldn't be in
this mess if you obeyed your local laws in the first place. Please don't
litter all the echos with your "poor little old me... please send money"
messages.
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From: DAVID ROBERTS Number: 6473
To: MICHAEL SELLS Date: 10/19/93 4:51p
Subj: Re: CD Encyclopedia for s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MS> CD-ROMS
MS> I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for
MS> Windows for sale.
MS> Version 1.01 (1992 edition)..........................Best offer
MS> Version 2.01 (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer
MS> If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279.
If this is the multimedia version, I'll offer $35 for the 1993 ver 2.01.
If we can work a deal, give me a call at 808-624-1293.
... Not tonight, dear.....I have a modem
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From: RED KENNEDY Number: 6474
To: DEALERS Date: 10/20/93 8:43a
Subj: win roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Folk
Looking for a windows cd-rom newer then the cdwinbox I am running on my bbs
now....
want all 93 files and not a lot of wall-paper junk....
..Red..
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 6475
To: RUSTY ATKINS Date: 10/20/93 3:30p
Subj: Off-Topic, On-Target Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rusty Atkins wrote in a message [ about PORN ] to All Dealers:
RA> We will not frequent trade shows, stores, or anyplace
RA> else that has barred this material.
I guess I won't be seeing you around much... :) I don't attend
trade shows, stores or any place that promotes material that
cheapens and degrades the sexual love. The preciousness of
human life is going down fast in a society when you can pay a
quarter to watch people fornicate and then whey you order a coke
it cost a dollar.
"Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication"
--- timEd-A10c
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 6476
To: DAVE REED Date: 10/21/93 7:43p
Subj: BBS Defense Fund Refer: 9933
Read: NO Private: No
-> Hello Tony!
Dave, who are you going to piss off next?
Chill.... Say something nice.
tim
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From: DAVID SMITH Number: 6477
To: DOUG HUMMEL Date: 10/20/93 7:44a
Subj: CONTROLLER CARD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 10-17-93 DOUG HUMMEL wrote to ALL...
DH> WANTED!!!! CONTROLLER CARD FOR HITACHI CD-ROM MODEL CDR-3500
DH> (THIS IS AN INTERNAL CR-ROM)
I think this is the type of one of the 3 CDs Im running in my board?
If so the controler is supposed to handle up to 7 of those drives.
Unfortunatly all of the suppliers around here only want to sell the
drives with controlers only. (Major Bummer!) Wouldn't want to sell
the drive you have would you? I'm running three different CDs in one
machine and running out of slots fast!
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: MARK ELSON Number: 6478
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/20/93 5:57a
Subj: CDs Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
-> ME>Have a couple of questions for you.....
-> ME>when will the OS/2 Box CD be out??
->
-> We should begin shipping around Oct. 25th.
->
-> ME>and is the Mac Shareware disk BBS ready???
->
-> No....meant for Apple system drives only.
->
-> ME>is the new Busty Babes out yet??
->
-> Just started shipping from what I understand. Ours are en route and
-> should be here soon! Price is $29.
->
-> ME>what kind of deal can I get if I buy all 3 of the above...
->
-> How about $25 each in a package deal? Give a shout if interested....
Mike,
Cant use the Mac disk...but will take the other two...Send me one of
each of the following...
1 - OS/2 Disk and 1 Busty Babes.....you can send them COD....
Mark Elson
PO Box 58057
280 World Trade Center
Dallas, Texas 75258
IF you need any other info let me know.....
Mark
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From: RICHIE NEBB Number: 6479
To: KURT ANNO Date: 10/19/93 10:23p
Subj: ROM DRIVES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Differeces between CD-ROM drives:
1. Access Speed....
Older drives have 550 to 700 ms access time, VERY SLOW!
330-360 ms access is good, and will do all ya want it to.
Faster than 300 ms is VERY EXPENSIVE
2. Data Transfer Rate...
150 K per second is good, and is MPC I standard
300 K per second is double-speed - EXPENSIVE
3. Cache...
A drive with a controller that HAS an on-board cache is GOOD
4. Internal vs External...
Depends on your needs & preferences & available space
MY DRIVE, a MITSUMI internal, 350 ms access speed, 150 KPS transfer
rate, 64 K Hardware cache on the controller card. Plays multimedia CD
titles, like DINOSOUR ADVENTURE great, with fluid video on my 386-DX40.
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From: RICHIE NEBB Number: 6480
To: GENE EHRICH Date: 10/19/93 10:35p
Subj: CD-ROM Disks for Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You Keep the Novell Disk.
I'll give ya $75 for the rest of the bunch, or $50 without the 2
roadmap/atlas disks. Shareware CD-Roms with pre 1993 files can be picked
up at the computer shows NEW RETAIL at $10 or less. I've got many
titles, but I could always use more to play with.
--- WM v2.07/92-0413
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From: RETURN RECEIPT Number: 6481
To: EDDIE PHILLIPS Date: 10/20/93 7:46a
Subj: Re: Misc items for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@ACKRR :Acknowledge Receipt of msg 2767 written on 10-20-93 07:46 N
@FROM :MICHAEL KELLY N
@ROUTE :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151 N
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From: MICHAEL KELLY Number: 6482
To: EDDIE PHILLIPS Date: 10/20/93 10:03a
Subj: Re: Misc items for trade Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Michael Kelly to Eddie Phillips <=-
-=> Quoting Eddie Phillips to All <=-
EP> Here's what I HAVE:
EP> - OS/2 2.0
EP> shrinkwrapped.............................................$40 - Alpha
MK> I may be interested in this, can I come over a take a look at it?
I thought you were a friend by the same name here local to me! :-) So it
would appear that I cannot come over and pick it up! Is this the complete
OS/2 v2.0 package?
... I call things as I see them; If I didn't see them, I make them up!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: LANE PETERSON Number: 6483
To: ALL Date: 10/20/93 1:31p
Subj: avi cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know where I can get the cdrom full of avi files that
supposedly is put out bt microsoft (or any cdrom full of avis)?
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From: LANE PETERSON Number: 6484
To: ALL Date: 10/20/93 1:35p
Subj: sherlock holmes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
also does anyone have either of the sherlock holmes cdroms for sale?
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 6485
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 10/15/93 11:04p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD-ROM TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Brice!
Thursday October 07 1993, Brice Fleckenstein writes to Stean Snyman:
BF> If you are looking for a LOT of stuff on a disc, avoid VGA Spectrum - they
BF> included both the .ZIP AND the unZIPped version of all the software on
BF> their disc, along with a few hundred .GIFs and some other graphics
BF> files. If you want to be able to run the stuff from the ROM, then VGA
BF> Spectrum is a good choice, as most of the programs CAN be run from the
BF> ROM.
Thanks.. Thats helps. So its a BIG waste of space... :(
Adios
Stean
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN Number: 6486
To: ALL Date: 10/20/93 10:22a
Subj: Cdrom resellers wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello to All,
We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in
marketing or bundling CDROM software. We are distributors and brokers of over
400 titles (and growing). Export orders are our specialty.
If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated CDROM:
+1.215.276.3657 voice, or by fax at +1.215.276.3854.
Thank you,
Gary
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 6487
To: ALL Date: 10/20/93 12:29a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE$ 3/3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************************************************************************
October 1993 DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST Last update: 10/20
**************************************************************************
3 of 3
>>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE! NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
>>> 95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING! <<<
Guinness Disc of Records 93...33.00 Street Atlas USA v1...........86.00
Hacker Chronicles.............26.00 Street Atlas USA v2 (New!)....95.00
Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00 STW Illustrated Encyclopedia..34.00
Hamware 1993..................24.00 STW Multimedia Encyclopedia...44.00
Hobbes OS/2...................16.00 STW MPC Encyclopedia..........45.50
Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00 Super CD 1....................19.00
Home/Business Legal Guide.....13.00 Super Games For Windows.......10.00
House of Games................21.00 Talking Jungle Safari.........35.50
Indy Jones Fate of Atlantis...44.00 Talking Schoolhouse...........35.50
Interactive Story Time 1......25.00 Technotools...................13.00
Interactive Story Time 2......25.00 Tempra Access Photo Software..24.00
Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50 Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50 Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
Jazz: A Multimedia History....39.00 Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........45.00 Timetable of Business/Politic.26.00
Jets & Props..................28.50 Timetable of History/Science..26.00
Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00 Too Many Typefonts............13.00
Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50 Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
Just Grandma & Me.............39.00 Total Baseball................27.00
KGB World Fact Book...........33.00 Trump Castle..................28.00
King's Quest V................24.00 U.S./World Atlas 3.0..........23.00
King's Quest VI (New!)........44.00 U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
Klotski.......................19.00 U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
Kodak Photo CD Access.........22.00 U.S. History..................29.00
La Colleccion (Spanish S/W)...29.00 U.S. Presidents...............37.00
Lan Master (New!).............26.50 U.S. Wars: Civil War..........34.00
Languages of the World........44.00 U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00 U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
Learning Heaven (New!)........25.50 U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
Library of the Future #1......49.00 U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
Libris Britannia..............42.00 USA Today: The 90's (New!)....36.00
Loom..........................19.00 VGA Spectrum 1................13.00
Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00 VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00 Visions of Saturn.............23.00
MacMillan Dictionary..........34.00 Wild Places...................24.00
Macromind Action..............39.00 Wildcat Gold..................27.50
Mad Dog McCree (New!).........49.00 Window Master.................20.00
Magazine Rack.................24.50 Windoware.....................13.00
Majestic Places...............38.50 Windows 1993..................25.00
Manhole.......................34.50 Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
Mantis........................24.00 Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00 World Atlas MPC...............26.50
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50 World of Flight...............34.00
Mayo Clinic MPC...............27.00 World of Trains...............34.00
Mega Clipart..................27.00 World Traveler................13.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 1992 MPC..46.00 World View....................24.00
Microsoft Bookshelf 1993 MPC..49.00 World Vision 3-Pak............39.00
Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00 Wrath of the Demon............29.00
Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00 X11R5/GNU.....................24.00
600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6.00 WITH ANY PURCHASE!
JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39
INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs same price as ground shipping!
ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p International orders welcomed.
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CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: JOHN ANTHONY Number: 6488
To: ALL Date: 10/20/93 5:23a
Subj: CD's, I'm looking for CDs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Anyone have CD's for sale i'm looking for about 19 cds for my 3 and one
cdroms.
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From: JACK BROWN Number: 6489
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 10/19/93 6:47p
Subj: Appalling attitude, fella Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DCinto stock and also letting you continue to bad mouth and flame DCme because
your order hadn't showed up.
DCsurprise me. Like I stated above, Express Mail is usually DCchosen by most,
and you can't complain about it since you DCdidn't bother to tell me what
method you wanted.
DCpractice. If I had shipped it by ground, which is the DCcheapest, you would
have really bitched, because it takes 30 DCdays or longer to get there. And,
NO, you have no right to DCcontiue to be annoyed,as I have filled my end of the
bargain.
Two Cardinal Rules for Anyone Wishing to Stay in Business:
Rule 1. The Customer is ALWAYS Right. Period. Rule 2. Refer to Rule #1.
Doug, your attitude (to be brutally blunt) sucks - bigtime. No way, nohow will
I ever do business with anyone whose discourse with customers even remotely
resembles yours. You have a great deal to learn, but you probably won't remain
in business long enough.
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From: BOB BRODOVSKY Number: 6490
To: MICHAEL SELLS Date: 10/20/93 12:46a
Subj: CD Encyclopedia for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MICHAEL Said this about CD Encyclopedia for sale to ALL %a.
MS>CD-ROMS
MS>I have a couple copies of Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for
MS>Windows for sale.
MS>Version 1.01 (1992 edition)..........................Best offer
MS>Version 2.01 (1993 edition, just released)...........Best offer
MS>If interested, post here or call 1-504-893-7279.
I'm intrested... What do ya think there worth? I really have no Idea..
--==>>Bob<<==--
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From: NICK ZENTENA Number: 6491
To: ALL Date: 10/20/93 5:44p
Subj: Toronto area shops? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
Does anybody know of any Toronto area
retailers that stock alot of CD's [i.e. more
then the few that are usually bundled with
drives] I'd like to justify the purchase of
this drive.
Thanks
Nick
------------------------------------------------------
Nick Zentena
nick.zentena@canrem.com [should work-)]
zen@hophead.north.net [best bet]
Canned Draught? Is that like frugal politicans?
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* I don't need no stinking corn in my Beer!
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 6492
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 9:31p
Subj: Spreadsheet Template/Utility CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Spreadsheet CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The October 1993 CD-ROM has
352 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 125,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
The library has mostly 1-2-3 templates, but also many for Excel and QPro. The
1-2-3 products can be used with the other spreadsheets (at least the vast
majority of them).
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 6493
To: RON DWIGHT Date: 10/19/93 7:24a
Subj: CD Player Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ron!
Monday October 18 1993, Ron Dwight writes to Pat Rickerson:
RD> Hi Pat,
>> PR> person know the money was in the mail. Could you
>> PR> please tell how and where I make replys, any help
>> PR> would be great. I am not a dealer just a housewife
>> Replies should be sent by netmail. That way only the sender has to pay
>> for them.
RD> Replies for orders and such, one to one correspondance with a
RD> dealer, should be sent "crash" or "Direct" NetMail. Altenatively via some
RD> other Network than Fidonet.
RD> FidoNet is an amateur organisation in which every SysOp pays
RD> his/her own costs. It is not deemed reasonable that businesses should use
RD> the network for the purposes of profit, on the backs of those volunteers.
RD> The situation in EchoMail is somewhat anomolous and strained right now,
RD> but ROUTING NetMail orders and such could (I said could, not would <grin>)
RD> get the echo into problems with the Fidonet backbone operators.
RD> Basically, if you wish to place an order then use CRASH or DIRECT
RD> NetMail and NOT routed NetMail. Another alternative would be to use the
RD> vendor's BBS. Thanks for reading.
Will do, thanks.
Pat
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From: JASON TAYNOR Number: 6494
To: MICHAEL HARRIS Date: 10/19/93 12:59p
Subj: Asian Ladies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MH.> I wanted to express my grief over their Asian ladies cd ( I not
MH.> complaining to you I didn't ask for a review first :-) I used a gif
If you're intrested in getting rid of this, I'll offer $20 shipped.
Jason
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6495
To: STEVE EVERLEY Date: 10/19/93 8:20p
Subj: Telephone Directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SE> When is the next update supposed to be out. I know
SE> that telephone numbers change so rapidly that its
SE> about 10% out of date or better by the time it
SE> gets printed. Is there a known lag time from when
SE> the info is gathered and the CD is made.???
SE> Thanks for the input..Looking foreward to ordering one from you.
I would imagine they will update it again around early '94.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 6496
To: RICHARD WICKER Date: 10/19/93 8:28p
Subj: CD-ROMs for Amiga Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RW> Are there any CD-ROM titles out for the AMIGA? And
RW> do any of you have any
RW> for sale?
We have the Fred Fish Collection OnLine v1.5 for $49 and also the AMiNet all
Amiga CD for $14.50 and the slightly older AB20 all Amiga for $10.50.
Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order one or 615-339-0235 to discuss.
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From: JIM COYLE Number: 6497
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 10/18/93 1:17a
Subj: Re: NO10 vs Pier 3 Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> Well, I did call at the request of a customer, and the lady who answered
MS> quoted me $29. Also, here is the latest copy of their ad that I've seen:
Well, I believe I already ordered the Night Owl 9 and 10 so I will hold out on
the Pier 3. Thanks for the excellent price though!
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From: JIM COYLE Number: 6498
To: ERIC SANTELICES Date: 10/20/93 5:11a
Subj: Re: Latest Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ES> What is the latest SHAREWARE CD-ROM on the market. I want one that was
ES> produced with in the last 6 mon. I would also like it to support FILES.BBS
ES> description structures.
ES>
ES> Any suggestions?
Pier 3 and Night Owl v9 and v10. Look around in the echo. You'll find many
places to get them.
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From: RON COLEMAN Number: 6499
To: ALL Date: 10/19/93 10:16p
Subj: Adults CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking to buy some Adult CD's if anyone wants to send me there
catalog,heres my address
Ron Coleman
9 S.Main
Ashley,PA.18706-1504
And I'm well over 21. Thanks.
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From: MOHIT GOYAL Number: 6500
To: ALL Date: 10/20/93 11:58p
Subj: I want OS/2 cdroms!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If you are selling a cdrom with OS/2 files, please send me a reply with
the disc name, price, megs, & a good description.
Thanks!
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From: JARED MARTIN Number: 6501
To: RUSS HUNTLEY Date: 10/20/93 9:49p
Subj: Battle Chess Enhanced Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I had BattleChess on regular disks, but I was just wondering if it was
higher quality on the cd-rom. I looked into 7th Guest, but it requires a
16bit video card, and I only have an 8 bit one. Bummer...
Jared
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529 Number: 6502
To: MIKE SHANNO